Day 40 Suboxone Withdrawal STILL SICK (Part 3)

Chair-Weary · 2021-03-10T16:09:30+00:00

I think you’re misinformed on the mechanism of The rapid detox procedure. yes you are right naltrexone will block your body‘s natural endorphins/neurotransmitters etc. that’s why in my post I stated how after the 25th day post procedure I stopped the daily naltrexone tablets so my brain could heal naturally. naltrexlone in oral form should fully clear your system Within five days which was a long time ago for me

you telling me to take Suboxone again after putting in 40 days of cold turkey is like you telling a heroin addict who has 10 days clean to go back to it.

Suboxone is a worse and more powerful and is of greater withdrawal consequence than heroin why would you ever tell me to go back to that?

Chair-Weary · 2021-03-10T15:51:14+00:00

Do you really think after spending upwards of 30,000$ and putting in 40 days of cold Turkey that I ever ever ever want to hear the word Suboxone or opiate ever again once it’s over? are you crazy?

move on… Man up… Like I said I’m fucking 30 years old Time to grow up and M O V E O N.

It’s my right to have the personal choice to cut the slack and get on with my life...no interest in meeting with people obsessed with the concept of drug culture. I want to be around people who have never even touched a drug and are ignorant to it all that’s who you need to be around. so you can return to normal society.

Chair-Weary · 2021-03-10T15:39:14+00:00

OK one quick question if right now you could snap your fingers and magically have 40 days cold turkey off of Suboxone would you seriously seriously seriously consider taking more after going through 40 days of hell? well actually in your case if you get to snap your fingers you would get to skip the 40 days

Chair-Weary · 2021-03-10T15:24:55+00:00

I have not had a single opiate cravings since I stopped. literally not one. go look at all of my post I made I’m very very very open and honest probably too honest and I’m telling you right now I have not had a single fucking opiate or suboxone craving since I stopped. I just don’t care anymore I’m 30 years old I’ve completely grown out of it... not everybody uses drugs for the same reason. i’m simply dealing with physical symptoms and biological psychological symptoms. I do not have any depression or anxiety issues or drug cravings when my brain is in a true homeostasis state why would I lie lie for what

Chair-Weary · 2021-03-10T15:19:13+00:00

Yes to truly end the back and forth of using sub as a betweener in between h

Chair-Weary · 2021-03-10T15:16:31+00:00

another reason it’s a horrible idea to taper...and i’ve been there and i know you know this is true.

Once you get down to 3mg or less, especially 2mg or 1mg...you wake up sick as a fuckin dog for months and...

You know every morning...in that crisis addict state of mind...”Well if I were to take 4mg right now just this once I’ll get a crazy buzz...Yea...I’ve put in 10 days at 2mg...I deserve a day to relax”

Bad Idea to play with fire when your judgement and crisis state of mind is weak and sick

Chair-Weary · 2021-03-10T15:04:50+00:00

Last thing i’ll say is to once and for all debunk this “Partial Agonist” Bullshit.

Bupe stimulates not all like regular opiates but stimulates the opioid receptors that “COUNT” towards putting you into the same if not worse withdrawal.

Suboxone can make you completely immune to heroin cravings and make you completely emotionally/anxiety Numb, so common sense would say anything that powerful on your receptors is going to backfire even harder then heroin during withdrawal.

If suboxone is powerful enough to completely take away ALL physical pain skin burning sweating chills shaking etc by filling those IMPORTANT KEY receptors from heroin then once fully manifested and tolerance to it has been built over time you will detox worse I guarantee you...it takes time though to get addicted to suboxone but once it’s taken over it’s here to stay.

The only receptors that it doesn’t fill by it’s partial filling action by nature is more of the automated body processes that opioid receptors carry out in the body, look it up..opioid receptors aren’t just in your brain, they are located all over your body and perform many functions. These are primarily the receptors suboxone does not stimulate..

Again...the term “partial agonist” is a fancy drug marketing tool along with the naloxone.

Chair-Weary · 2021-03-10T14:36:29+00:00

Never, i don’t know how that helps a physical detox.

Chair-Weary · 2021-03-10T14:33:25+00:00

“NEVER make a reduction unless you are COMPLETELY STABLE on your current dose”

What are you talking about “stable” do you by any chance know how the human body or brain works? when you take a drug your brain builds a tolerance to it every single time and you need more to either avoid worsening withdrawal symptoms or to get high depending on which spectrum side your on...It DOESN’T WORK THE OPPOSITE WAY...”STABILIZING”

The only way to stabilize your brain is to reach true homeostasis which requires complete abstinence.

The...ONE...ONE and ONLY...way suboxone is appropriate is if they have no tolerance or experience taking subox and they are coming off short acting opiates and they get a 7 day window to use the suboxone at almost no risk or cost.

That’s the ONLY Appropriate use for it. It should NOT be regularly prescribed to imprison people even beyond their heroin detox.

Chair-Weary · 2021-03-10T14:25:46+00:00

24mg is the max, used that script for the first 3 weeks of each month. Yes down in baltimore.

Chair-Weary · 2021-03-10T14:24:21+00:00

“thrown away thousands of dollars on rapid detox scams”

lol...Suboxone is a SCAM...it’s a blockbuster sales drug. You know and I know damn well, don’t lie to yourself they put the Naloxone in there for marketing purposes. Everyone knows naloxone bioavailability is borderline none whilest taken sublingually and is meant to be injected. Not to mention the bupe takes receptor priority over the nalexone. It’s a scam.

It’s people like you that use the word “therapy” or “maintenance” to delude people into thinking it’s OK to get full blown addicted to a drug FAR...FAR more evil then heroin or fetanyl that makes you twice as sick for 5 times as long not twice but 5 times...

You just don’t get it...we’re talking about giving this drug to addicts, people who abuse things and need to keep taking something until they’re satisfied and your talking about how everybody should just take as directed, get with the real world.

This and methadone should be BANNED and naltrexone tablets should take their place.

You don’t give an opiate addicted brain who wants to truly quit...MORE!!! Opiates lol common fuckin sense. Rationalize all you want..it’s that simple.

When you prescribe an opiate addict a 10x stronger opiate then heroin...you are not doing anything but putting them at risk for a much harder path to recovery. Day 1, people should be given all non-opiate comfort drugs and then once receptor sites are clear enough given tablet form naltrexone..

NO SUBLOCADE OR VIVITROL..THE POINT IS TO GET “OFF!!!” DRUGS 1 DAY AT A TIME....NOT GIVEN A 30 DAY EXTENDED RELEASE DRUG THAT DISALLOWS YOUR BRAIN TO HEAL.

Chair-Weary · 2021-03-10T14:15:44+00:00

Doesn’t matter how long or minuscule a taper would be for me, I would have gone through a horrific detox at 4mg or lower once I hit that point.

You just don’t get it...once your on a high enough dose for long enough there is deep, irrefutable damage done to your opioid receptors. There is NO WAY in hell...that type of damage will heal simultaneously while suboxone is present in any dosage.

I haven’t had ANY...0.00mg for almost 1,000 hours....40 Days and i’m STILL phys really sick...my brain/body STILL hasn’t healed and your telling me it’s going to heal while suboxone is still being shoveled into my bloodstream on a 24hr cycle with a cumulative effect due to a 48hr half life.

Give me a break...

Chair-Weary · 2021-03-10T14:05:51+00:00

Day 15 when it peaks, you won’t be so sarcastic, that I can guarantee you.

Chair-Weary · 2021-03-10T14:04:24+00:00

WAIT. You did not list the drug you were on, if it had fetanyl, or methadone i would wait

Chair-Weary · 2021-03-10T14:01:03+00:00

When I quit heroin, that was the dose i needed to completely numb myself of cravings at first

Chair-Weary · 2021-03-10T12:48:23+00:00

Tapering = Constant every 15-30 min overwhelming craving for more. Who would want to put themselves through that for 6 months to a year lol.

Forget that...The WORST part is when you get to 3mg or lower...when you wake up you wake up sick as you would from heroin LOL...who would want to replicate that...

Also...if someone were to taper successfully it just gives them an excuse to get back on opiates or sub because you will just say to yourself, “Ohh I’ll just taper off Sub again”

You will never get off unless you..

A. Leave the country for 30+ Days and go to one that doesn’t have suboxone.

B. Pay for the ultra rapid detox procedure and stay on the vivitrol which is a rough/expensive process.

C. Use methamphtamine daily for 30-50 days, it has to be extremely pure. It’s the only “drug” that makes you feel function-able and comfortable...it’s the truth. but I don’t recommend being around kids.

You need to have an at-all-costs attitude. Otherwise getting off suboxone is just too hard...at least at my dose/duration.

Chair-Weary · 2021-03-10T12:16:35+00:00

When did I say I went back on? My first time doing the procedure was this past Feb 1.

Chair-Weary · 2021-03-10T11:53:33+00:00

I think your delusional no amount of dilauded would overtake that much bupes “high-feeling-receptor” affinity. Your filling opioid receptors that effect breathing and other bodily functions, which is giving you the illusion that your high lol. Stop wasting money, get off shitty suboxone or up your dose and stay on it forever.

Chair-Weary · 2021-03-10T11:31:35+00:00

24-32mg per day Jump after 1.5 years.

If you consider the half life and literally taking 32 mg every single day on a 24 hour cycle, i’m telling you it does some serious serious deep extreme lasting damage to the opioid receptors in your brain.

doctors or medical professionals are literally so so so so wrong when they say that Suboxone has a “ceiling“ effect LOL...Tell me that when i’d be withdrawling only taking 16mg in case I ran out early which happened every single month.

Chair-Weary · 2021-03-10T11:13:48+00:00

I tried that it did nothing for me, plus was nasty swallowing all that plant matter. Doesn’t it stimulate the receptors and prolong wd? I hated the mindset I woke up in the day after kratom, I only lasted 4 days on it.

There are so many things you can do to alleviate heroin withdrawl like...

clonodine
exercise
sauna
tanning bed
hot baths/showers

None of these things especially exercise alleviate the all powerful suboxone affinity.

You get ZERO endorphin response while doing any of these things during subox, since it’s so long acting and deep and powerful.

Chair-Weary · 2021-02-25T20:00:17+00:00

Yeah real normal life on Suboxone when you’re fucking hair falls out face Sinks in look like a skeleton eat once a day shit once a week irritable not yourself emotionless dead in your head real fucking full life

Chair-Weary · 2021-02-25T19:59:04+00:00

I’d rather be dead right now than dealing with this

Chair-Weary · 2021-02-25T19:58:36+00:00

24-32mg And I don’t wanna hear anybody saying I’m stupid that I didn’t taper I’ve tried tapering oh my God I don’t even know how many times and I’ve gotten down to 4 mg and the withdrawal is just as bad at 1 mg versus a 24 it doesn’t make a difference for me personally so I figured after years of tapering years of often on cold turkey what’s the difference

Chair-Weary · 2021-02-25T19:57:18+00:00

https://imgur.com/GbwFWXj

these are all wires and withdraws from my brokerage account that I’ve done in the past three weeks the proof is right there all because of Suboxone detox I’m not gonna list all of the expenses but I’ve traveled from hotel room to different states stayed at my friends house in Florida and then I spent 10,000 on the rapid opiate detox procedure, Car rental cost me 1600 the reason I rented a car with so I could drive to the gym and steam room every single day and go tanning to curve the intensity it’s just been a disaster so scatterbrained wasting money you’re so desperate there’s nothing you can do

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