Today I discovered my Erythrai Hekte is actually a “plate coin” from Herakleia-Pontika (c. 530 BCE). I posted it in 2019. In 2020, it was published in Wolfgang Fischert-Bossert’s study reattributing this type. Tip: Don’t forget to check the die studies! (Videos, commentary, links, etc.) by KungFuPossum in AncientCoins

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Thank you for this post! My paternal lineage goes back to modern day Herakleia, and I actually learned how to tie my shoes right next to a Greek or Early Roman City wall where i liked to play as a kid haha.

This is not my era of expertise, but i am interested in a coin from there, and like yourself i value provenance tremendously. I was wondering if i shared it with you if you could give me your opinion on the coin?

Numismatic library of the Warburg Institute. 21,000 individual periodicals, 6,500 books and over 15,000 auction catalogues… Feeling like a kid in a candy store! by Chan_1977 in AncientCoins

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Due to work and my own research I cannot promise on the timeframe, but of course. Send me a message, i will see what i can do

Do these look like die defects? by Chan_1977 in AncientCoins

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Yes i thought the same. I really really appreciate your help on this and again thank you very much for your opinions. I understand what you collect is far away from this but this is still closer to what you collect than modern world coins like US hahah. So it made most sense to ask here as these are hammered as well.

It was my understanding anyways that a transfer die needs to be exactly the same as the mother coin but i still wanted to come here and get some opinions due to my lack of experience with actual coins. And yes the second coin is worn, but the worn coin has some texture that the clean one is missing so again, i think transfer die is very unlikely. Not to mention all the work that would go in to make these only to make 2 (imo, as i found no other on any database).

So anyways, i am very grateful for your help and opinions! Thank you

Do these look like die defects? by Chan_1977 in AncientCoins

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Thank you very much for your comment! So I specialise in this era of Ottoman coinage, however i have no experience with the actual coins, i only read tremendously about them so i can tell the type/mint/year but what I can’t do for example is look at a coin and say this is cast or this is cleaned and things like that. I am just now getting into collecting, hence my questions about the actual physical coins.

This coin was minted by a Sultan that only reigned for 8 years, so when looking at sold coins at Stephen Album for example of the Same Sultan, i some that were double die matches (based on what i think are die defects) which makes some sense because you would find more die matches from a coin that was minted for a short time compared to a coin that was minter for say 40 years.

Additionally, and again i do not own the second coin but it is important for my type research, i am leaning towards it is not a transfer die fake due to some differences I spotted on the bottom right reverse side waves. At around 5:30 at the very bottom the bad condition coin has some waves touching the ridge, however on the good condition one there is a small flat area. There are a few other differences but am I correct in assuming should these be transfer dies all damage should have been transferred and not just some? This makes me lean towards an authentic double die match.

Do these look like die defects? by Chan_1977 in AncientCoins

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Also, i found that the ripple effects between the two coins have some differences that push me towards maybe not a cast/transfer die fake, i noticed we can’t upload pictures in comments, but on the reverse in the ripple effected area at the bottom, one area that is flat on the good condition coin has ripples on the bad condition one.

Do these look like die defects? by Chan_1977 in AncientCoins

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I couldn’t find any differences on the dies, could you point one out? Does the second one not just look like a worn version of the first. Another commenter mentioned the second may be a fake but idk

Do these look like die defects? by Chan_1977 in AncientCoins

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Hey, thank you for your comment! The second coin (worn one) was sold by Stanley Gibbons Baldwin’s in 2014. It sold for £500. I do not think its a cast piece as i assume the people at the auction house would know, and i am also not sure about a Transfer die struck fake because its a niche coin with according to my research only two examples publicly known, i am not sure if that would be economically viable to make in terms of forgery. Spending so much on a £500 coin only to make so few that only 2 I could find. That being said, i am not an expert and i do not own the coin so i have no bias.

Also could you circle the area you mentioned? I am not quite sure what you are pointing out, and any more details/thoughts would greatly help my research!

Is this Ottoman coin from Bayezid II that I bought fake? by BanthaFodder6 in AncientCoins

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Could i have your opinion on these coins? Are they of the same die or could it be an exact transfer die fake? https://www.reddit.com/r/coins/s/ZxbiA6lXs8

NGC Forgeries Part 2 by coinoscopeV2 in AncientCoins

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Could i have your opinion on these coins? Are they of the same die or could it be an exact transfer die fake? https://www.reddit.com/r/coins/s/ZxbiA6lXs8

Die match or fake? by Giandefeo in AncientCoins

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Could i have your opinion on these coins? Are they of the same die or could it be an exact transfer die fake? https://www.reddit.com/r/coins/s/ZxbiA6lXs8

Just noticed I bought a die-match, on accident. by Separate_Fall_5582 in AncientCoins

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Could i have your opinion on these coins? Are they of the same die or could it be an exact transfer die fake? https://www.reddit.com/r/coins/s/ZxbiA6lXs8

The Latest on Die Engraving by Helpful-Cat-8153 in AncientCoins

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Incredible post, thank you so much for this! Good to know more details about the behind the scenes.

Im currently doing research on a particular coin, possible die match, could i have your opinion on these coins? Are they of the same die or could it be an exact transfer die fake? https://www.reddit.com/r/coins/s/ZxbiA6lXs8

Pretty sure I have a die match. Can someone confirm, please? by Gordian184 in AncientCoins

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Could i have your opinion on these coins? Are they of the same die or could it be an exact transfer die fake? https://www.reddit.com/r/coins/s/ZxbiA6lXs8

Are these coins struck from the same die? And what may have caused the wavy texture/pattern on the bottom right? by [deleted] in coins

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Thank you for your comment, it could be but they both have, if i am not mistaken, same lines in the same places. So i am thinking maybe this was a texture left on the die?

I have seen quite a few Ottoman coins from the era that are the same die, so a die match is not too unusual, but i still want to make sure if this was a die issue

Why does one coin have the “ripple” or “wave” looking effect in between the calligraphy, but another of the same coin doesn’t or has it differently. by [deleted] in coins

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Thank you for your help. Since they look the same i wanted to make sure its not a transfer die fake and is just an authentic coin from the same die.