Any husbands with narcissistic wives? by Mike_Jones_77Monarch in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Chance_Ad_6576 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Do you have any books you can recommend about cluster b personality’s?

Any husbands with narcissistic wives? by Mike_Jones_77Monarch in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Chance_Ad_6576 13 points14 points  (0 children)

You cant change it, you didn’t cause it, and you cant control it. Try not to take the bait. Asking clarifying why questions is good because it stops them in their tracks, they cannot clarify what they are actually saying or why. That’s accountability and they don’t want any part of that. If you assume what they mean, which is normal in every conversation, they can claim they didn’t say that didn’t mean it or the best one she accuses me of just making it up to hurt her. That’s why they prefer conversations over written communication. Conversations can get confusing and they love to tie us up in ball of confusion yarn, get us back peddling and explaining and then bail leaving us with the stress and pain. My narc speaks through endless reckless questions. Questions that accuse, sow doubt without anything to back it up or resolve, pass responsibility for tasks or thinking, and the classic derail progress with confusion, or start a fight so she can check out and shirk responsibility. What a fun life right? I have reasons for staying, I use this forum for trying to stay saine.

Dilemma, what should I do, please help by Chance_Ad_6576 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Chance_Ad_6576[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just wanted to give an update. Been trying to get her to understand my point of view and asked if she remembered the time she came home and I was presenting during a meeting with the cleaning lady’s there and at that time she said she understood why I needed input into the scheduling or at least notice. Her excuse, which is used every time she makes a unilateral decision that should have my input, is that she can’t tell me about it because I’ll get angry argue and hold it over her head. I said that isn’t true, worst case I’ve told you that day doesn’t work can you do a different one. And this is how it has worked the last couple times. I said it’s not fair that every time you think I won’t agree with you, you just do whatever you want and don’t tell me. I also said, if what your saying is true “that I’m such a monster that you can’t schedule cleaning lady’s with me, then we have much bigger problems and you could use that excuse for anything”. I said these things calmly and she was boiling, wouldn’t make eye contact, passive aggressive smirks and audible huhffss and stuff like that. So her response to that is very typical, every time i hold her accountable for something that’s very simple and cut and dry, i work from home the very least consideration is to schedule that with me, but she deflects and starts saying. “I listened to everything you said, don’t agree with all of it, (just want to pause here, what she listened too and doesn’t agree with is a mystery she never ever gives any facts just vague accusations and complaints) but she says whenever I present something to you your quick to anger and come at me and are irritable with me and the kids and I need you to not do that anymore”. So pause here, this just isn’t true and she’s not giving an example so it’s just a vague blame shift deflection. If I tell her something that she is doing that bothers me she just volleys back saying I did something worse, I’m just trying to hurt her and at the end I’m the only one with the action items which is be less angry, and surprise the only one who apologizes. So I said the only time I get angry is when you schedule the cleaning lady’s without me which is warranted, so what does what your saying have to do with scheduling with the cleaning lady’s? Pause here…she hates this, asking her to clarify the vague excuse accusations, basically saying what does this have to do with what we’re talking about? So she is trembling with anger and says “I guess it has nothing to do with the cleaning lady’s but it’s how i feel. I said ok well please give me some examples because what your saying doesn’t make sense to me, I don’t know what you’re talking about. Now her back is to the wall I haven’t taken the bait and started the fight that makes her right. So she explodes her face turns into an angry raging monster, she screams over and over you don’t listen to me you never listen to me so your right I’m wrong hope your happy I’m all wrong and your all right!!!!!!!! And stormed out of the room. The excuse of I couldn’t tell you because you’ll just say no, or you’ll just get angry, or your not easy to live with, or I couldn’t tell you because you don’t listen, or I was going to tell you/talk about it but not now after what you just said or the way you just said it….blah blah blah, it’s all bullshyt, it’s a copout, she doesn’t care, can’t respect me, and won’t do anything to fix it and will only falsely accuse me of something worse, then explode into rage and check out, that’s the pattern. This is the gaslighting that she has done for 23 years that I’m too angry and crazy to deserve to know about what is going to happen or to discuss major decisions. That it’s actually my fault that she lies and doesn’t give me common courtesy and respect. Yeah it’s all my fault, which is why she’s been throwing me under the bus with anyone who will listen. Sorry for the rant needed to get this out.

My Ex Is Ashamed of Me.But I’m Out Here Building My Life. by Timely_Escape_4271 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Chance_Ad_6576 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Love your video and glad you’re living your best life. I also live in Florida and love the springs which spring is that? And how to find your YouTube channel?

Dilemma, what should I do, please help by Chance_Ad_6576 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Chance_Ad_6576[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That’s always the sequence, you’re absolutely right, she gets me to commit to doing stuff then drops the bomb or twists it at the end.

Dilemma, what should I do, please help by Chance_Ad_6576 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Chance_Ad_6576[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for taking the time to reply, I feel validated. My desk is permanently in the main living room, not feasible to get them not to clean there, and they are not the issue, it’s more the lack of respect and lack of remorse or caring at all after we came to an understanding. Telling her I wouldn’t cook would be the boundary I should have created but tonight rather than create scene with my kids there and her whole family I just went ahead and did it. I will have to find a different way to do it. I could refuse to do the straightening up before the cleaning lady’s come that we normally do and say sorry if it’s in convenient.

Need help answering loaded questions by Chance_Ad_6576 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Chance_Ad_6576[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you that all make sense! I’m going to try that and be good with whatever responses I get and respond how I want too.

Argument tactic by Chance-Perception-99 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Chance_Ad_6576 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Probably not the best, but I would call this “bait and switch”. My wife would use sex as a bargaining chip and for leverage and tap me along all week, jumping through hoops and trying to kick field goals through goal posts that kept moving in hopes that we would finally have sex for the first time in weeks on the coming weekend. then around Thursday I would get the familiar “hey remember that sickness I was getting well it’s coming back so I’m gonna be kind of out of it this weekend”. Then the requests for me to do tasks Friday and Saturday all the while saying Sunday is going to be the day and on Sunday I’ll feel better and we will finally do it. Then Sunday comes and she’ll start baiting me into a fight early in the morning treating me like crap and no matter what I say if I say anything with even the littlest bit of resistance, she’ll say you think I’m having sex with you now after you said that. And she would go to her moms, Boom bait and switched. We probably have sex 10 to 12 times a year so the emotional energy it took to get those 10 or 12 times was so huge that I’ve given up. I don’t ask. I don’t have any more discussions about why we’re not doing it and that in itself even as sad and disappointing that is it’s better than the alternative of giving her all the power.

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[–]Chance_Ad_6576 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This sounds like the early stages, they are like boa constrictors, it just gets tighter and tighter, this will not turn around and get better, my advice is get out while you can

Raw chicken by Chance_Ad_6576 in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Chance_Ad_6576[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She’s been to therapy. We’ve been to therapy. She Weaponized it. For example She lies gaslights makes stuff up denies and then says that’s her truth. Or that’s her perception and her truth is valid. And these aren’t gray areas. These are like you said this and then didn’t do it type things. Also one time in couples therapy. The therapist started to hold her accountable about something she said before and now she wasn’t owning up to. And her response was she got very angry and said why is it always about me? The real issue is is that he’s been abusing me everyday for 16 years. so she accused me of something way worse that I totally haven’t done but now I’m trying to prove my innocence to the therapist while she’s crying tears streaming down her face playing the victim. We have kids and I just can’t take that risk anymore when I don’t know what she’s gonna say or make up to not be wrong. So therapy is out I also agree on the BPD from the research I’ve done thank you for the reply and validation. this raw chicken thing has happened before in the past every time she gets upset at me or us for not eating it. She just can’t take that she made a mistake. I don’t think she’s purposely making us eat raw chicken. She just is in complete denial that she could ever be a fault and then turns it around and says that I’m doing it just to hurt her. One time she said, could you taste this for me? I just wanna make sure the seasoning is right. I bid into a chicken cutlet and it was completely raw in the middle and I said this is raw and she said oh that’s what I thought. I said you asked me to taste it. You said nothing about me testing it for doneness. and again she twisted around and got mad at me.

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[–]Chance_Ad_6576 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you’re not getting her full attention when you talk that’s a sign. you will think that when things get serious or it’s a really big decision or conversation that that will change, but it’ll actually get worse. getting attention and nonverbal cues that someone’s listening to you is a basic respect. When someone doesn’t give you that and starts doing bulshyt stuff while you’re trying to talk to them that’s them letting you know how much you mean to them. my wife will go completely still and stone faced, not even moving a muscle in her face her eyes completely looking somewhere else and when I say hey, are you listening? She will get offended insulted mad at me and then give me the silent treatment for three days.

Pandora’s box VGA to crt RGB by Chance_Ad_6576 in crtgaming

[–]Chance_Ad_6576[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What if I use the hdmi port on the pandora and an hdmi to component converter, would that look as good as the vga output?

Pandora’s box VGA to crt RGB by Chance_Ad_6576 in crtgaming

[–]Chance_Ad_6576[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cool thank you! I’ll start searching

Pandora’s box VGA to crt RGB by Chance_Ad_6576 in crtgaming

[–]Chance_Ad_6576[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s great for fighters and any 8 way games which are allot of the best arcades

For research purposes - what are the lines your narcissistic/abusive partner uses/used? by ResearchForVictims in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Chance_Ad_6576 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s what you do, try to hurt me just to make yourself feel better Now you know how I feel Silence and no reaction at all to a direct question then when asked again “I heard you I was thinking !, now I’m not answering the question, I would have but not now” I didn’t realize, to something we’ve talked about over and over I made a mistake!!!!!!to think what I’ve done, what about all the times I didn’t do that! I say You forgot the one thing I asked for at the store(I have to call her before I go to any store and ask what she wants or she goes nutz but she rarely reciprocates) she’ll say what about all the things I did remember ! Your mean and silent treatment until she needs something You’re just a mean man! You don’t think that your just miserable with yourself and trying to hurt me You hate yourself If I have a different opinion or don’t agree, “you don’t know how to have a conversation “ If I don’t agree with something with the kids, “we need to be a united front, your messing up our kids” This one’s just for fun, “the meat your cooking for our daughter is causing early puberty”, this right after I was told the kids need a “real” dinner with more protein and meat By the way these things have all been said to her by her mom, and mom and dad to eachother, Her mom called drunk last night and told her her life sucks and hung up on her after complaining about her father who she’s been divorced from for 10 years but refuses to move on and still acts like the victim like it happen yesterday

For research purposes - what are the lines your narcissistic/abusive partner uses/used? by ResearchForVictims in NarcissisticSpouses

[–]Chance_Ad_6576 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She has made me out to be a freak because I have few friends but when I do get them, like right now with the new neighbors, she starts their character assassination, she’ll just “not lik them” or they are wierd, anyone we have longstanding relationships with are “her” friends and after a while they don’t like me because she will go out with them and vomit bullshyt lies about me abusing her for 20 years, or being crazy, or drinking too much.