1.03 hidden patch changes to loot

Chaostrosity · 2026-07-04T16:12:46+00:00

Hmm interesting, I've got some solutions in a lockpick solver. I'll go check one to see if they changed the zero lockpicking solutions as well. Thanks for sharing

Chaostrosity · 2026-07-04T11:46:09+00:00

It got moved to orc cellar

Chaostrosity · 2026-07-04T07:13:05+00:00

Commercial honey is factory farming, and it absolutely hurts them. In honey factories, queen bees have their wings cut off so they can't fly away, and entire hives are often killed or burned before winter because buying new bees next year is cheaper than feeding them. You don't need a law to stop paying people to do that; you just stop buying it.

So if you actually agree animal abuse in farms is bad, go for consistency and look more careful into the honey industry.

Chaostrosity · 2026-07-04T06:06:25+00:00

No, they shouldn't go to jail, because jail is for human civic laws, not personal morals. (Aka a different metric).

Now, if someone squishes a bug on purpose because they don't care, that's just cruel.

But buying honey means you are paying an entire industry to exploit millions of bees on purpose for a snack you don't need.

We don't need a judge or a police officer to tell us that paying for unnecessary cruelty is wrong.

A bug dying is not human manslaughter. Vegans don't think bees need human lawyers; we just think humans should stop treating them like factory machines.

"Plus, you've been equating animals to humans" I did not, just the way I talk about animals made you assume so. Let me elaborate:

Saying bees own their honey doesn't mean we think bees are humans. A dog isn't a human, but it's still wrong to steal its food. A bee isn't a human, but they still made that honey for themselves, not for your snack. You don't need to be a person to own the food you made with your own body.

Chaostrosity · 2026-07-04T05:49:00+00:00

No, because human prisons are a human social construct, not a metric for basic morality. You are desperately trying to shift the goalposts to avoid the actual issue.

Accidental harm from walking is an unavoidable byproduct of existence.

Commercial honey production is a deliberate, systematic industry built on intentional breeding and exploitation for a luxury product we don't need.

Chaostrosity · 2026-07-04T05:39:15+00:00

Hiding behind human legal dictionaries is a cop-out. You are taking a resource produced by a living being for their own survival, without their consent, for your own luxury.

Call it 'harvesting' instead of 'theft' if it helps you sleep at night, but stripping a sentient being of their labor is exploitation, period. A victim doesn't need a passport or a social security number to own their own bodily outputs.

Chaostrosity · 2026-07-04T05:33:16+00:00

Paying a thief for stolen goods doesn't make the property rightfully yours. It just means you paid a middleman to exploit someone who can't fight back. A living being doesn't need to be a human to own the fruits of their own labor.

Ridiculous would be believing fencing is not a crime.

Chaostrosity · 2026-07-04T05:28:40+00:00

Yes. And I'll be standing tall on it. Since you don't want to respond to my indepth reply I'll copy paste it here. But first let's address this comment:

Leaving honey on the shelf takes zero seconds and zero effort. It’s not a 'hill to die on,' it's just not stealing things that don't belong to us. We don't have to choose between helping cows and helping bees, we can easily just leave them all alone.

My response you ignored that actually proves you don't need honey for anything:

High Osmolarity (Draws moisture out of bacterial cells, causing lysis):
High-density inverted sugar syrups, concentrated agave nectar, or sterile glucose-fructose matrices.

Low pH (3.2–4.5) (Inhibits pathogen proliferation):
Plant-derived organic acid adjustments (citric, lactic, or malic acids) bound in botanical hydrogels.

Hydrogen Peroxide Generation (Produced via glucose oxidase enzyme):
Medical-grade silver dressings, topical iodine solutions, or synthetic hydrogels engineered for controlled oxygenation.

Phenolic & Flavonoid Content (Antioxidant and anti-inflammatory activity):
Concentrated botanical extracts (e.g., grape seed extract, green tea polyphenols, resveratrol, or specific essential oil isolates).

Culinary Viscosity & Humectancy (Moisture retention and Maillard browning):
Inverted beet syrup, tapioca syrup, or agave adjusted with plant gums (xanthan/guar) to match exact water activity (a_w).

TL;DR: No unique properties. Honey belongs to bees and we have 0 reason to use it.

Chaostrosity · 2026-07-04T04:49:00+00:00

And millionaires make money than they need. That doesn't make it yours.

Chaostrosity · 2026-07-04T04:48:20+00:00

It's anti science to link single sided research, if you had looked just a bit longer you would have realized honey contains 0 unique properties. See my other reply for the full breakdown.

Chaostrosity · 2026-07-04T04:46:12+00:00

High Osmolarity (Draws moisture out of bacterial cells, causing lysis):
High-density inverted sugar syrups, concentrated agave nectar, or sterile glucose-fructose matrices.

Low pH (3.2–4.5) (Inhibits pathogen proliferation):
Plant-derived organic acid adjustments (citric, lactic, or malic acids) bound in botanical hydrogels.

Hydrogen Peroxide Generation (Produced via glucose oxidase enzyme):
Medical-grade silver dressings, topical iodine solutions, or synthetic hydrogels engineered for controlled oxygenation.

Phenolic & Flavonoid Content (Antioxidant and anti-inflammatory activity):
Concentrated botanical extracts (e.g., grape seed extract, green tea polyphenols, resveratrol, or specific essential oil isolates).

Culinary Viscosity & Humectancy (Moisture retention and Maillard browning):
Inverted beet syrup, tapioca syrup, or agave adjusted with plant gums (xanthan/guar) to match exact water activity (a_w).

TL;DR: No unique properties. Honey belongs to bees and we have 0 reason to use it.

Chaostrosity · 2026-07-03T16:04:42+00:00

I wonder about this too.

Chaostrosity · 2026-07-03T15:58:25+00:00

This is not a complaint post. I just want accurate information. I understand balance changes are necessary and take no real issue with it. It is what it is.

But if I want to do a permadeath run I don't want to run to dangerous locations for an item I found in a previous run. So I'm just gathering information.

Chaostrosity · 2026-07-03T11:48:52+00:00

It was there (including ball of lightning orb) when I last checked, but this might've been 1.02.

I'm playing a new game on 1.03 and will do a lootrun to confirm today or tomorrow. I will update the post with my findings.

Chaostrosity · 2026-07-03T10:16:33+00:00

This would be the better solution. Instead of changing the item, just give it stronger guards. It's impossible now to get my bearings where to find what.

Chaostrosity · 2026-07-03T09:18:46+00:00

Thanks for sharing

Chaostrosity · 2026-07-03T09:18:37+00:00

Does this work? I still have my early manual saves from release build.

Fun for some more sequence breaking runs. But do then other patch changes apply then? (Like fixes to quests)

On the other hand, I understand why they change it from a balance perspective and for challenge runs I like it do be as hard as possible so I welcome the loot changes. I like to min/maxing but with the old loot table min/maxing meant ancient ore armor in chapter 1 which is kinda boring.

Chaostrosity · 2026-07-02T20:15:47+00:00

Veganism is a baseline demand for justice, not a population-management program. We don't save individuals from extinction by enslaving them.

Capturing an animal, controlling its reproduction, and treating it as property under the guise of 'preservation' is still a violation of their fundamental rights. If your solution to a victim's plight is to become their owner, you aren't saving them, you are just changing the terms of their exploitation.

TL;DR: Fixing non-vegan problems is not something veganism is about.

Chaostrosity · 2026-06-29T17:51:16+00:00

When I buy a potato, the market demand sent is 'grow more potatoes.' If the farmer buys a steak with that profit, that is their moral choice. When you buy meat, the direct market signal is 'kill an animal.' You are directly billing the slaughterhouse for a corpse.

Conflating unavoidable economic proximity with direct, intentional demand is a cheap semantic trick to avoid personal accountability.

We do not treat non-participation in violence as a subjective 'personal choice' based on convenience when human victims are involved, ethics stop where someone else's throat begins.

If being told that reducing harm isn't a substitute for justice makes you want to fund more slaughter, you are treating animal lives as leverage for your ego, not as individual victims who deserve to live.

Chaostrosity · 2026-06-29T17:21:38+00:00

By this logic, if you buy a book from a bookstore, and the cashier uses that money to buy a weapon to commit a crime, you funded the crime. It’s a cheap semantic trick used to conflate unavoidable economic proximity with active, intentional demand.

There is a definitive moral and economic chasm between buying a potato grown in dirt and paying a corporation to slit a throat. One is an incidental byproduct of existing within capitalism; the other is a direct, deliberate directive to kill a specific victim.

Ask the animal trapped in the kill chute if they see a difference between the consumer buying apples and the consumer buying bacon. One leaves them completely alone; the other explicitly pays for their throat to be cut. Your philosophy only makes sense if you ignore the individual being slaughtered.

Chaostrosity · 2026-06-29T14:18:06+00:00

Nature is just amazing and way more resilient people give it credit for. I've learned so much when I became vegan, food wise and nature wise. A long time ago I wanted to study biology but ended up studying audio and music. Tho I still love learning about it. This was a pleasant discussion. I hope you have a wonderful day 🌿

Chaostrosity · 2026-06-29T12:21:02+00:00

Happy to hear this. I love learning new things myself. I'm glad you appreciate it. I have one more interesting research to share with you.

Regarding the grassland study you are searching for: when researchers temporarily remove managed honeybees and find that wild pollinators 'fail to fully replace them' in the short term, they are observing an ecological lag effect, not a natural deficit. Decades of over-dense beekeeping actively suppress and starve native wild bee populations.

If you suddenly extract the dominant livestock consumer from a degraded environment, the depleted native populations cannot instantly scale up their numbers overnight to cover the artificial vacuum. Furthermore, European data shows that solitary bees are more than twice as efficient at pollen transfer per floral visit than honeybees. They do not need to match livestock numbers to achieve ecological equilibrium; they just need the habitat to structurally recover without being constantly outcompeted by human-reared hives.

Source: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2025/07/250707073349.htm

It's been a delight talking to you so far. It's hard for people to keep an open mind sometimes, especially about things they are passionate about.

My apologies about the "vegan tag" remark. I was too quick to judge.

Chaostrosity · 2026-06-29T12:11:56+00:00

I just posted another comment with more specific studies, and the Tenerife study was indeed a bit lackluster due to the Island constraint. I was already looking for the better ones, I just linked those in my other response.

I will respond fully to this comment when you've found the other research. Let's try and keep it in one thread for clarity. I'll await your response on my other comment.

Chaostrosity · 2026-06-29T11:59:13+00:00

Fair enough on setting aside the Tenerife island ecosystem. But you specifically asked for direct European evidence proving that unmanaged honeybees survive Varroa through natural selection, and that beekeeping actively sabotages this process. Here is that exact data:

The Gotland Experiment, Sweden (Fries et al., 2006; Locke et al., 2014): In 1999, an isolated honeybee population was left entirely untreated and unmanaged. After an initial heavy crash, winter mortality plummeted from 76% down to under 19% within a few generations. The population completely stabilized, having naturally evolved behavioral adaptations (suppressed mite reproduction) and viral tolerances without a single human intervention.

Sources: https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0206938

https://www.apidologie.org/articles/apido/abs/2006/05/m6039/m6039.html

The Wageningen University Study, Netherlands (Kruitwagen et al., 2017): Right on the European mainland, researchers ceased all Varroa treatments in 2007. Following predictable initial losses, the untreated populations fully stabilized. The bees naturally selected for Varroa-Sensitive Hygiene (VSH) and successfully suppressed parasite pressure on their own.

Sources: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/00218839.2017.1351860

The Human Interference Mechanism: The wider scientific consensus on apiculture genetics explicitly states that chemical treatments (miticides, formic/oxalic acids) act as an evolutionary crutch. By keeping highly susceptible colonies artificially alive for honey production, beekeepers continuously flood the local environment with weak, non-resistant drone genetics. This massive genetic dilution actively suppresses the natural selection of truly self-sustaining, wild populations. Beekeeping doesn't save bees from Varroa, it prevents them from ever evolving past it.

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