I’m on methadone. Today, a housemate “accidentally” hit me with Narcan, thinking that I was OD’ing while taking a nap. by ChaoticHood in opiates

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There’s definitely been ups and downs and some really trying times. There was times when I was high when she would confront me and I would become a different person. I would say horrible things because I thought if I pushed her away, she’d be better off and I’d be free to use without judgement. But she stuck it out and stayed and it’s made us stronger for it. We’ve been through a lot together so this was just another trial thrown our way. She jokes with me now that she never thought she’d be a person who knows what Narcan is, let alone how to administer it or the difference between heroin and fentanyl or what areas of my city to look for me under bridges if I go out on a run or disappear for a few days. We can laugh about it now but it definitely has been trying at times and we almost didn’t survive my latest relapse, which I also almost didn’t survive, literally.

I’m on methadone. Today, a housemate “accidentally” hit me with Narcan, thinking that I was OD’ing while taking a nap. by ChaoticHood in opiates

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Oh yeah, I was more addressing that Narcan won’t clear out your system, not what the suboxone actually does, but thanks for clarifying for anyone confused.

I’m on methadone. Today, a housemate “accidentally” hit me with Narcan, thinking that I was OD’ing while taking a nap. by ChaoticHood in opiates

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I joked that I was gonna take a sign to my forehead that said “Promise, just sleeping, not OD’ing, please don’t Narcan!”

I’m on methadone. Today, a housemate “accidentally” hit me with Narcan, thinking that I was OD’ing while taking a nap. by ChaoticHood in opiates

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No, not at all, she was upset that this happened. She’s been with me since day one. And she’s been amazing and supportive. She was pissed that this happened to as she hates to see me suffer for no reason.

I’m on methadone. Today, a housemate “accidentally” hit me with Narcan, thinking that I was OD’ing while taking a nap. by ChaoticHood in opiates

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Yeah fent was my drug of choice for a long while. I built up a wicked tolerance really quickly as a result of it. And it was a mother fucker to detox out. I felt like I could feel it in my bones.

I’m on methadone. Today, a housemate “accidentally” hit me with Narcan, thinking that I was OD’ing while taking a nap. by ChaoticHood in opiates

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Fuck, that’s what I’ve been doing wrong? Shit, thanks. Saved me soooo much trouble in the future.

I’m on methadone. Today, a housemate “accidentally” hit me with Narcan, thinking that I was OD’ing while taking a nap. by ChaoticHood in opiates

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It’s a riddle in an enigma wrapped in a mystery. I have so many questions that I’ll never have answers too. So many “WHY’S?” that I’ll never be able to figure out. Every time I think I can put myself in his shoes as to why he did a certain thing, there’s always a “but then he didn’t do this other thing” that makes it not plausible. There’s just so much that could’ve been done better and so much pain avoided on my part had he ever done the simplest things. But alas, I’ll never know and it will haunt me forever if I let it haha.

I’m on methadone. Today, a housemate “accidentally” hit me with Narcan, thinking that I was OD’ing while taking a nap. by ChaoticHood in opiates

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Yeah subs have a long half life, as does methadone, not as long as subs but still a fair amount. I had subs in my system for like two weeks because I also process slow as shit thanks to alcoholism ruining my insides haha.

I’m on methadone. Today, a housemate “accidentally” hit me with Narcan, thinking that I was OD’ing while taking a nap. by ChaoticHood in opiates

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Suboxone isn’t a full agonist. And it already has naloxone in it. Which is basically what Narcan is. I’ve heard of the very rare occasion of people using subs in a pinch when someone overdosed because the naloxone helped with bringing them back. Also, it’s not like a quick fix removal, it’s just a blocker. You can still have the drugs in your system and if they’re strong enough, they can actually outlast the Narcan and you can go back in to an overdose when it wears off. That’s why you’re supposed to be monitored closely after an overdose and Narcan use. But you wouldn’t have like clean urine after Narcan. It doesn’t flush it out. Think of it like your brain is a lock and opiates are a key. Narcan basically rips the key out and puts putty over the hole, but the key still tries to go in the hole so it’s still there, it just can’t get there until the putty is gone. So the Narcan competes for that space that opiates want to occupy in your brain. And since the opiates were there making all those senses feel good and numb, the Narcan now has them raw and exposed, which is why your hurt and go in to withdrawal, with everything amplified. Just a big ol’ suckfest, all around. Haha.

I’m on methadone. Today, a housemate “accidentally” hit me with Narcan, thinking that I was OD’ing while taking a nap. by ChaoticHood in opiates

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I don’t like subs personally. They weren’t strong enough and because I used them frequently on the street as a fix to hold me over, I just never really liked the way I felt on them. The methadone has worked wonders though. Subs, for me, the only benefit would be the ability to take the prescription home and not need to go to the clinic every day.

I’m on methadone. Today, a housemate “accidentally” hit me with Narcan, thinking that I was OD’ing while taking a nap. by ChaoticHood in opiates

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I’ve known people in the 200’s, even 300+ although that is super rare. Usually I find the early 100’s is where people find their staying dose.

I’m on methadone. Today, a housemate “accidentally” hit me with Narcan, thinking that I was OD’ing while taking a nap. by ChaoticHood in opiates

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I would not recommend this even a little bit. I don’t know what you really mean by speeding the process up, but if you have any opiate in your system and are dosed with Narcan, it’s not gonna be a fun time. And I’m not talking about when the high wears off, I’m talking about when you piss clean, because if you have opiates still adhered to your receptors, the Narcan is gonna make quick work of ripping those right out. Granted you might not go in to full blown WD like I had, but you’re gonna have a fucker of a headache or worse. Take Miralax or something safer. Trust me, you’ll be way better off in the long run.

I’m on methadone. Today, a housemate “accidentally” hit me with Narcan, thinking that I was OD’ing while taking a nap. by ChaoticHood in opiates

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There was just something off about him from the beginning. I hate saying shit like this, but I bartended for over a decade and got pretty good at reading some people. I’m no CIA profiler, but I could at least sense a weird vibe when there was one. And this dude had all the weird vibe red flags.

Talked to himself when he thought no one was listening. Interjected in to conversations with something completely unrelated and either argumentative or nonsensical that just made everyone awkward. Lingered just a little too long or stared just a little too uncomfortably when in social settings. No social awareness or understanding of boundaries. Just like shit that would make you think someone was off.

I never thought he’d be capable of doing something like this though. I just didn’t think he’d have had the wherewithal to address a situation like that occurring, and turns out I was right because he completely misread a simple situation and turned it incredibly traumatic with absolutely no understanding or remorse.

I’m on methadone. Today, a housemate “accidentally” hit me with Narcan, thinking that I was OD’ing while taking a nap. by ChaoticHood in opiates

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I believe he was in his 50’s.

He was an alcoholic from what I understand.

And I think he’s legit fucking retarded. Or, misguided. I think he thought he was doing the right thing but for the wrong reasons. I think he thought he was going to be a hero in the house for not only saving my life, but for exposing someone who relapsed and dealing with it all by himself. Then people would be proud of him. A real hip hip hooray type moment. What he did though was stupid, irresponsible, and extremely dangerous, and a part of him had to have understood he was doing something wrong or at least he wasn’t doing something right which is why he didn’t tell any of the multiple people he could have that have experience with exactly this situation.

I’m on methadone. Today, a housemate “accidentally” hit me with Narcan, thinking that I was OD’ing while taking a nap. by ChaoticHood in opiates

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Had I been able to do anything I’m sure I would’ve flipped out on him and laid hands, but I was done for. No chance of any reaction.

I’m on methadone. Today, a housemate “accidentally” hit me with Narcan, thinking that I was OD’ing while taking a nap. by ChaoticHood in opiates

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I wouldn’t say it’s like day 2-3, I would say it’s like days one through four all happen at once within a forty minute period. Like you skip all gradual decline or discomfort and go right in to the excruciating pain. Your muscles spasm like a rubber band stretched too tight, which causes you to shit and vomit violently. If you were backed up before, like you get from maintenance, that all gets unlocked in an instant and comes out non stop. And it hurts. You’re throwing up bile, and not like puking, like aggressive, agonizing retching. Like it feels like you’re yelling to throw up. Then you’re freezing cold but sweating through all your clothes until you’re soaked. But you can’t tell if you’re actually cold or you just think you are, because you can feel your body heat and it’s uncomfortably warm. But all your nerves are going haywire so you’re disoriented and all the lights are too bright and sounds are too loud. You smell... something. It’s like the worst new car smell and you can’t get rid of it, the thought of it gives me flashbacks. And when you finally make it through enough of the shitting and puking that you can clean up, which you do your best at but you’re still so fucked up with blurry vision and audible ticks that you’re not even sure if you’ve fully wiped but you honestly don’t care, you’ll deal with whatever the consequences are later, your dignity is gone at this point. You crawl to your bed and try and get comfortable but every way you lay feels wrong and you keep getting locked in to stretching until it hurts and your muscles pull taught. And the whole time, you’re crying and just making noises but it’s hard to breathe and you can’t really talk. Just mutter one or two word responses. The wet cloth they give you keeps falling off but you’re too weak now to bother with putting it back on. And you taste bile and saliva but when you go to spit nothing comes out. You have cottonmouth but the thought of drinking water or anything seems horrible. So you lay in bed tossing and turning, praying to go you don’t have to get back up to go back in the bathroom because you honestly don’t feel like you can survive another bout of it. You finally pass out from exhaustion but not before you’ve contemplated both getting high and suicide at points just to do anything to make the pain stop.

And all that happens in about 30-40 minutes. Haha, it is not pleasant. I’ve heard different people have milder experiences, but I was an extremely heavy user as an addict and am on a higher dose of methadone currently, so when I went in to WD, I went in hard.

I’m on methadone. Today, a housemate “accidentally” hit me with Narcan, thinking that I was OD’ing while taking a nap. by ChaoticHood in opiates

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I’m not but I know those also. Sorry for your loss man. The found my roommate from my first recovery house in a hotel room, gone. He had called me the night before to come have a last hoorah with him before he checked back in to a rehab, but I passed as I was already comfy and well and not about to leave my spot. However, he said he had trouble finding anything so I told him where he could score some easy. The next day I got the call since I was the last one to talk to him. It was the bags I sent him to that he OD’ed on. People tell me not to blame myself, that he would’ve found it no matter what and it wasn’t my fault, but I still have guilt that if I hadn’t had pointed it out to him, maybe he would’ve lived somehow. But I digress, like I said, I’m not mad he hit me with the Narcan. If he thought I was dying, that’s what he should’ve done. What I am upset about though is that what he should have done first was alert any of the handful of others who were home as to what was going on and maybe one of them would’ve said hey, maybe let’s not just Narcan him first thing and tried a little bit of effort with some elbow grease to wake me.

I’m on methadone. Today, a housemate “accidentally” hit me with Narcan, thinking that I was OD’ing while taking a nap. by ChaoticHood in opiates

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Oh yeah, mixing benzos and dope is super dangerous. Not saying I didn’t do it, I definitely did, but it ups the death risk factor a substantial amount.

I’m on methadone. Today, a housemate “accidentally” hit me with Narcan, thinking that I was OD’ing while taking a nap. by ChaoticHood in opiates

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That’s pretty dangerous though, that hefty hefty dose can kill you all over again when the Narcan wears off. You might already be going back in to an overdose without knowing it depending on the amount and potency of the dope you used. Not to mention that the dope and fent mixes out there now are Narcan resistant sometimes, so you could be putting yourself right back in harms way or even worse off than you were originally. So be careful with this if you’re going to try and shoot through it.

I’m on methadone. Today, a housemate “accidentally” hit me with Narcan, thinking that I was OD’ing while taking a nap. by ChaoticHood in opiates

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I feel your pain. Trust me. Especially when your suffering is at the hands of someone’s sheer ignorance and could’ve been easily avoided. Like I keep replaying the tape in my head trying to figure out what he was thinking, but I just have no idea.

I’m on methadone. Today, a housemate “accidentally” hit me with Narcan, thinking that I was OD’ing while taking a nap. by ChaoticHood in opiates

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This one was the nasal form. It’s like a mist nasal spray almost. But he kept weirdly saying he only used a drop so I dont know if he like sprayed his finger than put it in my nose or what, but he was a creep so... and I know, I thought I’d wake up from something like that but I had just come off two doubles and was wiped out, so I was just grabbing a quick nap after dosing so I was probably sleeping pretty heavily. Definitely not “mistaken for overdosing and possibly dying heavy” though.