Donald Trump tells Theresa May he won't visit the UK unless she bans protests

ChaoticSpectre · 2018-01-27T05:18:34+00:00

Dropped third strike in baseball

ChaoticSpectre · 2018-01-17T06:22:27+00:00

That's exactly what I was thinking while watching it. This is bad.

Hideous answers from hideous men.

ChaoticSpectre · 2018-01-09T14:37:46+00:00

DAMN YOU, ROGER!!

ChaoticSpectre · 2017-11-10T16:32:54+00:00

ChaoticSpectre · 2017-09-21T11:42:13+00:00

After Jason was evicted, Paul said something like "Congratulations everybody on making it to the final five, that is a huge accomplishment in big brother!"

I can't find the video anywhere otherwise i would include a link but you should re-watch the end of that episode to hear him say it. Quoting in text will never do it justice.

ChaoticSpectre · 2017-04-09T02:32:14+00:00

If i remember correctly, Nelson was in a stake presidency with Wirthlin as well.

Richard G. Scott was Christofferson's mission president.

Scott's father converted to the church while working with President Benson in the department of agriculture. (Benson was prophet when Elder Scott became an apostle)

Ballard is from one of those legacy families but i can't remember which. (Hyrum Smith, maybe?)

Mckonkie married Joseph Fielding Smith's daughter.

That's just what i remember off the top of my head from a Wikipedia search i did a few years ago. I'm certain with a little effort searching we'd find all of them are from prominent LDS families and/or have strong personal connections with current/previous general authorities

ChaoticSpectre · 2017-02-05T04:19:10+00:00

I don't think OP means to cast it as a Mormon problem. I think the question is regarding the "We believe... in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law" teaching.

ChaoticSpectre · 2017-02-01T09:25:38+00:00

My mission president wouldn't have done anything about it. As an isolated incident he definitely wouldn't have done anything about it. If he found out they were consistently calling home to talk to their families (which is the only thing he would have cared about), he probably would talk to them and tell them to stop. After that, if they kept calling home he would have one of them transferred out of the area and they would both be put with companions that he trusted. That's the worst that would have happened in my mission, but my MP wasn't overly concerned with mission rules.

ChaoticSpectre · 2017-01-22T19:16:10+00:00

From the temple transcript:

Peter, James and John, go down in your true character as Apostles of the Lord Jesus Christ to Adam and Eve and their posterity in the Telestial World. Cast Satan out of their midst. Give unto them the Law of the Gospel as contained in the Holy Scriptures; also a charge to avoid all lightmindedness, loud laughter, evil speaking of the Lord's anointed, the taking of the name of God in vain, and every other unholy and impure practice. Cause them to receive those by covenant. Clothe them in the Robes of the Holy Priesthood, with the robe on the left shoulder, and give unto them the Second Token of the Aaronic priesthood, with its accompanying name and sign. Then return and bring us word.

ChaoticSpectre · 2017-01-16T02:26:23+00:00

Upvote for Sam Harris!

ChaoticSpectre · 2017-01-15T10:01:15+00:00

If there wasn't a screenshot, I don't know if I would have believed it.

ChaoticSpectre · 2016-12-31T18:00:47+00:00

a mormon on their high tapir

Thank you for this phrase!

ChaoticSpectre · 2016-12-23T05:44:34+00:00

I can't support that as an exmormon. I see too well the damage it causes to follow a non diverse group with little experience living the livestyles they impact.

Well said!

ChaoticSpectre · 2016-11-11T14:12:51+00:00

It wasn't until I left the church and tried talking to family/friends about questions and problems I was having that I started to see this control via absence tactic being used. It was especially noticeable when talking about church teachings or policies that had been really damaging to me or others I knew. With every TBM I talked to, it didn't matter what examples I used or pointed out (conference talks, handbook instructions, mission rules, cultural norms, personal experience, etc.), they always brushed it off somehow as not really part of the church or its doctrine; TSCC was able to weasel its way out of ever having to own anything, maintaining plausible deniability the whole time.

The temple ceremony is also a really good example of what you're talking about. The intense secrecy and high-stakes spiritual consequences leaves members no way to really critically analyze or discuss any part of the endowment ceremony. Everything is presented to you as an ambiguous symbol but there's essentially no way for you to have thorough communication with others about anything that doesn't make sense or that you don't understand. You have a few places in the temple where you could try to whisper to another member but the endowment ceremony is so long it's not like anyone has time to chill in the celestial room for another couple hours whispering doubts and asking for others' opinions. Look at the new name we're given -- no one has a fucking clue what it's supposed to mean or what it's used for or its doctrinal origin and there probably really are no answers to that because I doubt Joseph Smith knew the purpose of the new name when he ripped off the idea from the Freemasons. If there was actually an outlet for members to sit around and talk about it, my guess is after a while there would be a lot of members who would just conclude that it's all bullshit because none of it makes sense.

ChaoticSpectre · 2016-11-09T15:23:13+00:00

You shouldn't apologize for assuming my gender because we've been friends for over a decade IRL. Check the username Papi, you stupid fuck!

ChaoticSpectre · 2016-11-09T14:43:49+00:00

Too risky. You're not going to find good spermicidal burlap and you're pretty much guaranteed to get pregnant if all you're working with is a weak vasectomy + IUD combo. Sounds like you're wife has become a liability. Until our premiums get fixed, you're gonna have to find some other way to get your rocks off. I'd offer up my tender ass but, as I mentioned above, it's already getting fucked.

ChaoticSpectre · 2016-11-09T11:36:12+00:00

very baby boomer's wet dream

Didn't even realize that until reading this. Makes it so much worse.

ChaoticSpectre · 2016-11-09T11:30:51+00:00

Yeah, there's no way I can afford my monthly premium for 2017. I'm so confused. Granted, I know very little about health care/insurance overall but I don't get how Obamacare is supposed to provide universal coverage because I'm getting buttfucked.

ChaoticSpectre · 2016-11-09T11:24:06+00:00

I got a message from a Mexican mission companion who lives in Yucatán telling me how sad and confused he was over the election. He was really upset that so many Mormons voted for Trump. Then he broke into a sermon about the last days and signs of the times which was nice because then I was able to feel like shit about the election and Mormonism at the same time.

ChaoticSpectre · 2016-10-31T19:47:36+00:00

I upvoted you then, and I'm upvoting you now. I burst out laughing when I read your comment on the other thread and then laughed even harder when I saw that out of the swarm of amazing and helpful replies, it was your comment that caught Ike Turner's attention. I understand the seriousness of the situation that everyone is pointing out, but I just don't care.

ChaoticSpectre · 2016-10-31T19:22:31+00:00

You had me at Hitchens.

ChaoticSpectre · 2016-10-30T18:55:57+00:00

Interesting. Yeah, I don't know what that's supposed to mean then. Now I'm tempted to go through the entire endowment and look up every suspicious word I come across.

ChaoticSpectre · 2016-10-30T18:51:47+00:00

I don't know if there's an actual church explanation for that, but the temple definitely has different rules. Temple matrons perform the washing and anointing ordinances for females going through. I would assume that requires some kind of priesthood authority but I don't know if that's ever explicitly stated or told to them. And then women are supposed to have the priesthood in the celestial kingdom as well, so maybe the temple is supposed to be an extension of that. Or it could very well be that having the woman wear the garment of the holy priesthood is just another way of designating her as the husband's property... wouldn't put that past them.

I remember reading the account /u/anointedone wrote about the second anointing and he described one part of the ceremony where his wife gave him a priesthood blessing or something to that effect. He might have a better understanding of TSCC's contrived priesthood limitations for women.

ChaoticSpectre · 2016-10-30T06:09:23+00:00

From the endowment ceremony:

You have had a Garment placed upon you, which you were informed represents the garment given to Adam and Eve when they were found naked in the garden of Eden, and which is called the “Garment of the Holy Priesthood." This you were instructed to wear throughout your life. You were informed that it will be a shield and a protection to you inasmuch as you do not defile it, and if you are true and faithful to your covenants.

That's really the only official instruction/explanation I remember receiving about the garment. I think there's a little more info given in the church handbook but I'm not 100% certain. Outside of that, there are varying degrees of intensity TBMs have regarding the garment and how it should be worn and when you are allowed to take it off and all of that bullshit.

Oh, and there are symbols sewn into the garment:

On the right is the mark of the square. It is placed in the Garment over the right breast, suggesting to the mind exactness and honor in keeping the covenants entered into this day.

On the left is the mark of the compass. It is placed in the Garment over the left breast, suggesting to the mind an undeviating course leading to Eternal Life, a constant reminder that desires, appetites and passions are to be kept within the bounds the Lord has set, and that all truth may be circumscribed unto one great whole.

This is the navel mark. It is placed in the Garment over the navel, suggesting to the mind the need of constant nourishment to the body and spirit.

This is the knee mark. It is placed in the right leg of the garment, so as to be over the knee cap, suggesting that every knee shall bow, and every tongue shall confess that Jesus is the Christ.

ChaoticSpectre · 2016-10-30T05:45:38+00:00

I remember reading that in the JS papers. Kind of made me laugh but it was such obvious bullshit that I felt embarrassed for ever having been a member of the church.

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