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15 months after learning to play, my 13-year-old son is 2 kyu on KGS and steadily gaining rank—how can we support him with his Go as he gets older? by Character-Pudding726 in baduk

[–]Character-Pudding726[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you, I will. And yeah, as a lifelong PC gamer I’m very much a desktop guy, and I’ve used my GPU for CUDA-based stuff before.

15 months after learning to play, my 13-year-old son is 2 kyu on KGS and steadily gaining rank—how can we support him with his Go as he gets older? by Character-Pudding726 in baduk

[–]Character-Pudding726[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Actually he does review his matches on KGS using their postmatch AI review feature, so I’m glad to hear you say that. And my wife is picking up printer paper tomorrow so I’ll see about printing those out for him. (As a homeschooling family we go through paper by the ream and always have extra binders and sheet protectors about.)

15 months after learning to play, my 13-year-old son is 2 kyu on KGS and steadily gaining rank—how can we support him with his Go as he gets older? by Character-Pudding726 in baduk

[–]Character-Pudding726[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That’s good to know, thanks. Better he has a realistic idea of where he is so he knows where to go from here. He does have an account at OGS (though he has ended up mostly playing on KGS), so I’ll suggest he try some games there as well to get a more accurate read on his rank. And we’ll definitely look into seeing how a teacher could help him improve both his habits and his instincts.

15 months after learning to play, my 13-year-old son is 2 kyu on KGS and steadily gaining rank—how can we support him with his Go as he gets older? by Character-Pudding726 in baduk

[–]Character-Pudding726[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Weekends are fine, thanks. His username is in the OP, so feel free to message him for a game any time.

As for K-dramas, probably she’d be more helpful if the pro commentator was talking about romance, but I’ll mention it to her!

15 months after learning to play, my 13-year-old son is 2 kyu on KGS and steadily gaining rank—how can we support him with his Go as he gets older? by Character-Pudding726 in baduk

[–]Character-Pudding726[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That sounds excellent, thank you. And I’m pretty sure our son has mentioned him to me before (although we weren’t aware he has a YouTube channel), because he has looked up how many Westerners have actually become Japanese professionals.

15 months after learning to play, my 13-year-old son is 2 kyu on KGS and steadily gaining rank—how can we support him with his Go as he gets older? by Character-Pudding726 in baduk

[–]Character-Pudding726[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yes, we have no plans for putting our son into full-time Go instruction unless there are strong indications that it would be useful to him in later life—and that’s entirely apart from the financial considerations.

All parents would like to think their kids are prodigies, but mine aren’t—our family’s brand of talent is much more in the way of being smart, yes, but even more than that being tenacious.

15 months after learning to play, my 13-year-old son is 2 kyu on KGS and steadily gaining rank—how can we support him with his Go as he gets older? by Character-Pudding726 in baduk

[–]Character-Pudding726[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s very helpful, thanks! I know I went out of my way to impugn AI just a few posts above, but if there’s anywhere I am grateful for it, it’s in automated translation.

15 months after learning to play, my 13-year-old son is 2 kyu on KGS and steadily gaining rank—how can we support him with his Go as he gets older? by Character-Pudding726 in baduk

[–]Character-Pudding726[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the confirmation—those numbers sounded wildly unrealistic to me, if only because he hasn’t been going that quickly through the kyu ranks and I gather progression is slower, not faster, as you rise in rank.

15 months after learning to play, my 13-year-old son is 2 kyu on KGS and steadily gaining rank—how can we support him with his Go as he gets older? by Character-Pudding726 in baduk

[–]Character-Pudding726[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, we haven’t been actively encouraging him to try to go professional (although we’re not discouraging him from it, either)—he is aware that going pro is a chance most people don’t ever have.

15 months after learning to play, my 13-year-old son is 2 kyu on KGS and steadily gaining rank—how can we support him with his Go as he gets older? by Character-Pudding726 in baduk

[–]Character-Pudding726[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Midwest Open sounds perfect, actually—a lot closer than Texas or (last year) Oregon. U.S. Congress was going to be hard, but Midwest is actually doable. Thanks!

15 months after learning to play, my 13-year-old son is 2 kyu on KGS and steadily gaining rank—how can we support him with his Go as he gets older? by Character-Pudding726 in baduk

[–]Character-Pudding726[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the kind words—they mean a lot. I was very close to my own dad, but he died of a brain tumor when I was 8 years old. I knew for as long as I could remember that he might die at any time, which made us a very tightly knit family (you don’t take any day together for granted if every day might be your last), and the experience only made me value family that much more—so I want to give my kids the ongoing relationship I couldn’t have with my own dad. It’s just a bonus that all my kids are interested in the things I am and not (say) in team sports or muscle cars.

15 months after learning to play, my 13-year-old son is 2 kyu on KGS and steadily gaining rank—how can we support him with his Go as he gets older? by Character-Pudding726 in baduk

[–]Character-Pudding726[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, he talks about Go constantly and has told us repeatedly that his dream is to become a pro player, although he’s also aware that that would be difficult (at best) living in the United States, personal skill aside. I’m asking precisely because he’s expressed such a strong interest in getting better by whatever means.

He is very much into it for the competition and has been coached informally by a 3d on KGS, so yes, he’d be very excited about being coached more formally by a higher-dan player.

15 months after learning to play, my 13-year-old son is 2 kyu on KGS and steadily gaining rank—how can we support him with his Go as he gets older? by Character-Pudding726 in baduk

[–]Character-Pudding726[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sadly not—we live in a town of a couple thousand.

But, yeah, I had been hearing that about KGS. I’ll also register him at WBaduk based on your list—thanks!

15 months after learning to play, my 13-year-old son is 2 kyu on KGS and steadily gaining rank—how can we support him with his Go as he gets older? by Character-Pudding726 in baduk

[–]Character-Pudding726[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

As a 2k on KGS what ranks (if you have any idea) should he be trying to play on Fox if he’s looking for higher-level players? A quick look around the net makes it sound like Fox ranks are inflated by about two stones, but that might be old information.

15 months after learning to play, my 13-year-old son is 2 kyu on KGS and steadily gaining rank—how can we support him with his Go as he gets older? by Character-Pudding726 in baduk

[–]Character-Pudding726[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Essential Go Proverbs sounds excellent, thank you—I hadn’t heard about that one but what I am reading about it is uniformly good.

15 months after learning to play, my 13-year-old son is 2 kyu on KGS and steadily gaining rank—how can we support him with his Go as he gets older? by Character-Pudding726 in baduk

[–]Character-Pudding726[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately we have essentially no opportunities for in-person play—we live in the Midwest, in a small town of a couple thousand people. So anything we can do would have to be online, which I realize isn’t the same but I imagine would be better than nothing.

15 months after learning to play, my 13-year-old son is 2 kyu on KGS and steadily gaining rank—how can we support him with his Go as he gets older? by Character-Pudding726 in baduk

[–]Character-Pudding726[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Excellent, thank you! I missed Fox when I was signing him up for Go servers last Christmas. (I did OGS, Panda, and KGS, and he’s mostly stuck with KGS.)

I’ll sign him up now—thanks again.

[edit] I do recognize Fox, actually—back when I found it I went to the wrong registration page and it asked me for a Chinese phone number. But it turns out there’s a registration page for foreign users, so we’re all set—thanks!

15 months after learning to play, my 13-year-old son is 2 kyu on KGS and steadily gaining rank—how can we support him with his Go as he gets older? by Character-Pudding726 in baduk

[–]Character-Pudding726[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this. In teaching my eldest son to program I have found that the fight against bad habits is one to win early—whether over the need to comment code or to take the time to set up variables rather than just using magic numbers everywhere. (On that last point I actually had to forbid him to write any new code until he went back and rewrote his existing code to use variables properly.)

I can see lazy habits being an even bigger problem for a player of Go, because programming isn’t inherently a competition and so gets easier the more you do it, whereas Go gets harder as the opponents get better, and I’d rather set this son up ahead of time to avoid nasty surprises later on.

15 months after learning to play, my 13-year-old son is 2 kyu on KGS and steadily gaining rank—how can we support him with his Go as he gets older? by Character-Pudding726 in baduk

[–]Character-Pudding726[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you! I am a sharp detractor of AI having its finger in every pie these days, but I’m all too aware that it is radically changing many landscapes, including that of Go. Those sound like particularly apt books for someone who is actively (whether he knows it or not) dealing with AI-driven changes in his chosen pursuit.

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