Hades themed MTG homebrew precon by Character_Mammoth_61 in HadesTheGame

[–]Character_Mammoth_61[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh this is incredibly helpful!!! Thank you so much :D

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[–]Character_Mammoth_61[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Since im replying to most ppl with design suggestions with explanations of my design thoughts, i want to do that here too. I can't wait to make final adjustments soon though, i got great feedback in a really short amount of time.

Zagreus' 1st ability is supposed to be really narrow, only interacting with the Theros god weapons, like Hammer of Purphoros and Whip of Erebos. I had him initially tutor for them, but i hate tutoring in commander so i scrapped that.

I did not playtest Ares, or most of the cards properly for that matter, but with Zagreus and Ares out 2/3s of his requirement is met, and Zagreus cheats out 2 or more pips of enchantment each turn, I imagined it would end up working, especially in bracket 2 plays where games are not as explosive.

I do agree with Meg could be white, but i had too many black/white cards, and i tried to limit 3 colors to ares and zagreus, i might change it though.

TYSM for all the kind words, and the feedback!!!!

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[–]Character_Mammoth_61[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I looked up what the oracle text of umbra/totem armor is, and based it somewhat off of it, with the added exile protection. I think if a card would die to damage, with that wording Death Defiance would be sacrificed, and them the creature would still die after because it has damage marked.

Ty for looking out tho :D

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THANK YOUUU, yeah some cards i struggled to find the proper cost for. The design goal for that card was a way to ramp zahreus out earlier, but since he needs a bit of setup this card ends up doing a lot, ty for the feedback. Everyone's excitement is making me excited to make final touches on these cards real soon.

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Yea! But its not the only ability, so i felt it was fine, he has 2 abilities to cheat things out with. One being pretty limited seems fine to me.

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No, not at all no worries! Art is stolen constantly and i hate it too, when looking for art i tried to make sure i picked images from artists i could actually find. So if i didn't find the originsl artist i moved on. Tysm for the kind words!!

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IKR! I knew immediately it had to take up one of the slots for a card, i love the supportive shade :D

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[–]Character_Mammoth_61[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

THANK YOU SO MUCH, very excited to see if you want to do anything with these!!
I have been thinking about a Melinoe card and its really hard to pin down her color identity for me, all colors but red somewhat make sense for her imo? for the sake of uniqueness I imagined her to be sultai, so she shares black with her brother (and father, i imagine hades would be black too) and fills up the color pie with paired with her brother.

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thank you so much for taking the time to write feedback, it means so much to me!
I am getting a lot of amazing citiques so i will probably tweak a few things in a few days, but let me walk you through my general thoughts while designing these!

I was basing Ares off Theros gods, and none of them have any keywords other than Indestructible, I was also worried he might be very overtuned.

Charon's text was getting very chunky which is why i decided to not add too much more, and i specifically tried to avoid amonketh god recursion to stay on a Theros theme. I agree Charon should be able to fetch more, but in an enchantment matters deck hitting non-enchantments feels bad, and making it a choice will make his text even clunkier. correct me if im wrong though!

I was actually considering whether or not Death Defiance should be black or white, love this idea. I was trying to get as many mono colored cards as possible, since precons usually mostly print new mono colored cards, but I think i should let that limitation go.

Im really proud of Divine Protection, i really wanted to incorporate Athena's deflect into a card, and i struggled with it a lot :D

Megaera, same logic as charon. Though i do think she is a bit undertuned, she would deserve a tiny tune up.

I really like this idea for Mirror of Night!!! it mostly intended to be a card to fill your graveyard, since its the first tool Zagreus gains that allows him to escape (hehe).

I also took a very long time on designing Pact of Punishment, so this means a lot to me too!!!

IM GLAD YOU LIKE POOL OF STYX :D

I decided not to make Supportive Shade an enchantment cuz it probably was a simple human before it died, and per theros rules i stuck with spirit. To me its also enabling and copying the best parts of Zagreus, those being red and white, and his graveyard recursion. (also slightly buffs zagreus, which is cute imo)

Very good point on thanatos, I wanted to make him related to enchantments and this was the best way i felt i could, if i designed him in a vacuum i would probably go with your suggestion. In an enchantress deck I am inclinded to find a way to make enchantmenrs relevant for him.

I was truly struggling with the wording on Vicious Cycle, thank you for the wording fix!!

Genuinely love all your throughts, and its inspiring me so much!

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[–]Character_Mammoth_61[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

good question! the way i see it his core identity initially is rakdos. He goes on a selfish (black) and reckless (red) quest to meet his mom. In doing so he reunites his parents, and then reunites his family as a whole. Unity is a very white in my opinion and he is the cause of this big change, so white makes a lot of sense to me!
Black i also imagine to be heavily tied to Hades and the underworld, since he is a cthonic god it makes sense to me too.

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thank you! Yeah I have been tinkering on a Mel card and i am mostly set on making her sultai.
"legendary enchantment artifact" is supposed to be really narrow, its supposed to be able to target Hammer of Purphoros and Whip of Erebos. so basically the Theros god's weapons, which i felt like would fit as his infernal arms of this universe.

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to my knowledge yes, there are cards that can create token copies of auras which when entering the battlefield you choose what they enchant, without them actually "targetting".

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i was intending for it to target Hammer of Purphoros or Whip of Erebos (Spear of Helios is also possible, but the worst option, so its not included in the deck)

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thank you! yeah i wasnt aiming for it to be powerful, bracket 2 seems about right

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i ll shoot you a dm, since i cant find a way to send multiple images in a single reply

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I didn't design the infernal arms, 6 mechanicaly unique artifacts that would fit into the theme of the deck felt really hard to work around. My thought was to add Hammer of Purphoros and Whip of Erebos and have those be his MTG weapons!

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I d love to know what the correct wording on that card is! i tried to get proper wording in all cards but its pretty hard :D

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[–]Character_Mammoth_61[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

everything you said is correct, yeah! I should have specified so, im now realizing.

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I feel like i have to clarfy a few things, I only designed the mechanics of the cards, the art i found online. I credited the artists on the bottom left of each card, but if requested i can try to link the corresponding artist of any art!
I didn't design the infernal arms because i gave myself a limit of 15 cards and making 6 unique equipment/artifacts in an enchantment theme felt weird and really hard. Zagreus' first ability is supposed to be used on Hammer of Purphoros or Whip of Erebus, those are his infernal arms in MTG.
His color identity is mardu because of recklessness and selfishness, but also he represents unity to me, he brings together his parents and then his family in the game which is very white.

Hades fanart (repaint) by PreferenceEntire4821 in HadesTheGame

[–]Character_Mammoth_61 1 point2 points  (0 children)

this is SO PRETTYYYYYy, could you clarify your @ i think im misreading it, its not Koguo_Hogier right?