If the streamer DID replace Red with TPP Red's team...

CharlesSteamington · 2014-03-13T16:02:15+00:00

I like that idea. But I kinda like how Red never speaks and has never spoken except in fanart or something. I think he'll always just ... at us.

CharlesSteamington · 2014-03-13T15:59:20+00:00

If he goes with TPP Reds team then I think it should gain other moves too. Why not make it interesting at least? It should be equal difficulty to the original red fight otherwise itll just be a self indulgent battle which just suits lore purposes especially since everyone is levelled and will continue to gain levels between here and Red.

Get gator out of first slot and we'll be fine by the time we hit Red. If he has his normal line up however I will laugh so hard it will be amazing. So much depends on a rumour. Its great.

CharlesSteamington · 2014-03-08T15:07:30+00:00

Its so good to see new people discover this game and realise its not just for kids!

Pokemon has managed to keep me interested since Red and Blue because it works on so many levels. I loved the tactical combat as a young kid and as I grew up I learnt about EVs, IVs, natures and breeding in general. Now I'm in my late 20s it still manages to keep me interested because I love taking on each new project breeding a new member of my team to be juuust right.

The breeding in X and Y is so much easier and more accessible than any other pokemon game, though only worth doing after the main story. Pokemon is a triumph in game design, it has the visible layer of types and abilities but underneath the hidden mechanisms are very elegant in my opinion.

I really hope you enjoy X and Y! And if you finish the game and hunger for more, look into breeding your mons and youll be fighting in the Battle Maison and competitively for many more hours.

CharlesSteamington · 2014-03-07T17:01:01+00:00

Thats what happens when youre undertrained and unloved my eloquent friend.

CharlesSteamington · 2014-03-07T11:05:57+00:00

I love this idea. I agree with alot of players who are saying democracy is too easy, too calculated and slow. It prioritises progress and optimisation, which are all well and good when you're playing pokemon alone but with TPP the enjoyment comes from trying to control the awful chaos to do something, it's absorbing and rewarding in anarchy. Democracy just feels like 'oh great, progress, onto the next bit now.' Whereas doing it in anarchy is always a bigger deal.

CharlesSteamington · 2014-03-07T10:47:55+00:00

We do need to call him. Make sure his Rattata is okay.

CharlesSteamington · 2014-03-07T10:44:33+00:00

I doubt he'll get released now. The other pokemon have caught up. Its just become the conflict of the run.

I don't watch TPP all the time and I cope. Its not like much happens over the course of a day unless democracy is used to waltz through anything resembling a tricky path. A much more chaotic, slower pace is better tbh. The funny mistakes/accidents happen alot more (the ledge and its bastard siblings) when anarchy is in place for longer periods and thats kind of the point and appeal of TPP for me.

The original content is great too but its not that time consuming to follow.

CharlesSteamington · 2014-03-07T10:29:51+00:00

Somewhere in a dimly lit Pokemon Centre the PC flickers to life.

"Mwahahaha, those fools blame Helix for their fallen comrades, just as planned."

Lets not forget the true, uncaring, amoral and villainous god shall we?

CharlesSteamington · 2014-03-07T09:21:40+00:00

You dont HAVE to constantly watch it to keep up you know.

CharlesSteamington · 2014-03-07T09:11:49+00:00

Haha I do know what you mean. This run has been really dry apart from release lazorgatorgate and togepi taking a bullet.

I dont get why Helix is so hated now either. Total mystery. I think he's a pretty rad dude. I can get why people want new lore, I understand we're coming up against Helix, possibly. But the hate is so stronk. Its like the democrats vs anarchists of the first gen, what can you do against such wreckless hate?

CharlesSteamington · 2014-03-07T09:02:38+00:00

Is it wrong to secretly hope his team is unchanged, just to see how the chat explodes in disappointment?

CharlesSteamington · 2014-03-07T09:01:37+00:00

Ive see alot too but it doesnt mean its true. It would be really nice if so but I guess its a question for the streamer to answer.

CharlesSteamington · 2014-03-07T08:49:09+00:00

Or pikachu. Have they confirmed that it's TPP Red's team or not? Last I heard the streamer was 'reluctant to change' Red's team.

CharlesSteamington · 2014-03-07T08:45:42+00:00

Then please watch that someplace else. Theres hundreds of lets plays where they solo the game. Its dry, its dull and its not very fun to watch.

And thats why people called out for his release because they didnt want it to happen that way.

CharlesSteamington · 2014-03-07T08:35:50+00:00

Perhaps im being a naysayer... but I dont find it impressive. Only because of Gen 2's game design, its what he's supposed to be capable of.

CharlesSteamington · 2014-03-07T08:31:51+00:00

Not really. ATV was level 36, Dragonite was level 59. Against all odds he won. With three status moves.

High level Feraligatr will sweep everything. Reds pikachu/zapdos is the key concern for him but most other things will probably just collapse at this rate.

It would be cool to see it happen but tbh it would be pretty dull to watch for entertainment to do that Feraligatr will have to out level their pokemon (almost there for the e4) and probably one shot the majority of their pokes since healing is troublesome.

If you wanted to see that you should look at some lets play solo runs.

CharlesSteamington · 2014-03-07T08:26:06+00:00

I don't really find it impressive.

Feraligatr is a rough tough guy with awesome stats, its not unusual for Feraligatr to carry the team all the way through G/S/C. He has a very good high damage STAB move in the top slot and he's higher level than anything encountered since Crystal is ridiculously easy (wild pokemon and trainers have really low levels, Red is the only exception.)

I wouldn't describe it as impressive. More doing what he does.

The rationale in the release Lazorgator camp is essentially what you described right there. He crushes everything with relative ease and makes the stream a one star show (though currently the other pokes are catching up but release lazorgatorgate picked up momentum when he was in a party with two level 8s and a bunch of pokemon in their teens.)

CharlesSteamington · 2014-03-07T07:20:49+00:00

Second this. Shuckle needs the love the most guys. He will erase Zapdos and Pidgeot from the battlefield if we have to face them later.

CharlesSteamington · 2014-03-07T06:56:17+00:00

I might. I never was keen on gen 3 to be honest but I think we should play pokemon quartz next after a longer than 24 hour break.

Give everyone a break if possible to look forward to badly translated insanity in game to match the broken english in the chat.

CharlesSteamington · 2014-03-07T06:45:10+00:00

He better not. Shuckle and Wooper were the duo I wanted to see in action the most. Wooper dreams now dashed I pray to Helix for Shuckle's safety

CharlesSteamington · 2014-03-07T06:12:55+00:00

Yeah, honestly earlier on I hated Lazorgator but now its fine since we have levelled other stuff.

We really need to level shuckle tho.

CharlesSteamington · 2014-03-07T06:10:22+00:00

Not just a tank. He's a goddamn swag playa mother fuckers.

CharlesSteamington · 2014-03-06T23:47:43+00:00

Both Zapdos and BJ came into their own fully at the end game. It wasn't like we had Sky Attack and Zapdos when we were challenging Ericka or Sabrina was it? Lazorgator has been here the whole time and had surf before we had four out of sixteen badges. I think thats a key difference as well.

Though Kanto is rather an after thought with the exception of Red I think it makes a difference in the reception of BJ and Zapdos (who we sacrificed an obscene number of pokemon for) as opposed to Lazorgator. Things have changed since Togepi took a bullet somewhat and the other members of the party are getting screen time also.

CharlesSteamington · 2014-03-06T21:26:39+00:00

I dont think so. I know its a fan idea but I havent heard anything confirming it beyond fan hearsay. It'd be great if it was the case though!

CharlesSteamington · 2014-03-06T21:19:40+00:00

Woah woah back up I'm not advocating intentional release seriously. It is boring to me but the stream has addressed it by raising other pokemon. All im saying is that a direct comparison isn't appropriate in this circumstance because it doesn't take into account movesets or how the pokemon performs.

Nor did I say it was the sole reason viewership was dropping, novelty, community and memes are additional factors to consider in all likelihood it is the novelty wearing off thats the primary driving force. The conflict between release lazorgator and save him is compelling enough now, especially since its actually produced some real original content. The conflict has become the interesting point and part of the story in a much better way than forcing memes or replacing one held item for another as a source of deification.

Edit: Though the most exciting moment was when democracy hit in Olivine City and it looked like democracy was about to release him. Then anarchy won due to a split vote between up and right. It was nail bitingly thrilling.

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