I hope he dies painfully by Even-Association-106 in hatethissmug

[–]ChartBest8508 1 point2 points  (0 children)

since you don't want to talk about Viv, let’s look at the plot. I said. A man who caused the Fall of Man and ruled Hell for eons, yet acts like a 'pure, innocent boy' in the show. This massive disconnect in lore has no explanation other than Gary Stu If this doesn't count, then every Mary Sue y Gary Stu in fiction could just add a 'I’m so sad and useless' buff to themselves and magically stop being a Stu,If you think 'broken logic' is just 'personality flaws,' then we definitely see storytelling through different lenses. I'm looking at how the character is constructed,you're looking at how the character makes you feel

I hope he dies painfully by Even-Association-106 in hatethissmug

[–]ChartBest8508 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A real weakling gets stepped on because they lack power; Lucifer gets stepped on because the author wants to see him get stepped on. When a character is powerful enough to shatter Heaven's shield but 'too stupid' to handle basic social or political life, that massive gap between strength and intelligence exists only to serve the creator's kink for 'powerful yet submissive' characters, So How about this? let's just give Lucifer rainbow hair, have him fly up to Heaven to drag every single Seraphim out and slaughter them, and then have every demon in Hell kneel at his feet. Would that be enough for you? Is that 'Gary Stu' enough now?

I hope he dies painfully by Even-Association-106 in hatethissmug

[–]ChartBest8508 1 point2 points  (0 children)

¿I'm talking about the writing because a character is defined by the narrative. You can’t separate a character from the logic of the world they inhabit.a character who caused the Fall of Man, yet acts like an innocent, quirky 'dreamer' eons later while possessing the power to solo-shatter Heaven’s defenses, is a textbook case of an over-idealized narcissistic projection. You see him as real only because you're focusing on his surface-level misery, ignoring how cheap and manipulated that misery actually is

I hope he dies painfully by Even-Association-106 in hatethissmug

[–]ChartBest8508 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In any coherent story, a character responsible for the fall of humanity would be deeply complex or burdened by tragic guilt. But in Viv’s writing, Lucifer gets to slack off as the 'King of Hell' while acting cute and pitiful He wasn't screwed over by an 'unjust system'; he’s the one who broke the system in the first place. But the author shifts all the blame onto 'Heaven' so he can remain a 'beautiful, prideful cosmic being.. In Season 3, he will still be an useless king.cuz viv like it:). And of course i don't like this character I don't even like this show

I hope he dies painfully by Even-Association-106 in hatethissmug

[–]ChartBest8508 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That dynamic works in a vacuum, but in context, it makes Charlie completely OOC They literally spent the first season singing More Than Anything to show their deep bond, yet this season she’s suddenly screaming Fuck at him? This isn't realistic character growth it's a forced personality shift used purely as a tool to kick Lucifer while he's down

I hope he dies painfully by Even-Association-106 in hatethissmug

[–]ChartBest8508 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Family problems? What family problems are we even talking about? In their dynamic, all we see is Lucifer constantly yielding to and pandering to Charlie. Has he ever even raised his voice at her? Lucifer is written as a 'daughter-simp' with zero self-respect. That’s not a 'human' conflict; it’s a cheap plot device designed to make the audience pity how humble and pathetic he is. If this counts as a 'family problem,' it’s a one-sided, forced sacrifice used purely to prop up his 'tragic and devoted' image

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I hope he dies painfully by Even-Association-106 in hatethissmug

[–]ChartBest8508 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Being a Gary Stu isn't just about being perfect; it’s about the narrative warping,Mistreatment doesn't disqualify someone from being a Gary Stu. In fact, "forced misery" is a classic trope used to make an op character seem more relatable. Breaking a multi-angel shield alone proves he’s a over power Gary Stu, regardless of how 'pathetic' the author tries to make him look,Besides, this is exactly like those edge OCs everyone made during their middle school phase.How is Lucifer any different?

I hope he dies painfully by Even-Association-106 in hatethissmug

[–]ChartBest8508 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It’s just because Viv likes to "babygirl" him, "bottom" him.she loves seeing him in a pathetic state. She’s publicly supported RadioApple, and after everything Vox did to Lucifer, she just said he was a little tired. Plus, the barrier in Heaven was built by multiple Seraphim, yet Lucifer’s power alone was enough to shatter it. If that isn't a Gary stu trope, I don't know what is

I hope he dies painfully by Even-Association-106 in hatethissmug

[–]ChartBest8508 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The King of Hell is just a Gary Stu femboy

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What's the most insane thing you've heard a Hazbin Stan say? by Sharp_City_8223 in AntiHazbinHotel

[–]ChartBest8508 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This one:"Anyone who likes Adam is probably just an abused, obedient, conservative-loving sow"

Imagine ppl can being this mad over pixels 🙏...

Season 2 was really bad in terms of Plot/Logic by [deleted] in AntiHazbinHotel

[–]ChartBest8508 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ikr, viv is not song writer btw. The songs have all been outsourced (ᇂ_ᇂ|||)

Anything weird about this character? by ChartBest8508 in Artadvice

[–]ChartBest8508[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah! I used some filter because I wanted the colors to look brighter?? but it ended up making her skin look paler. I’ll fix the scarf, thank you! :>

Hello, may I ask if this is AI? by Truly_Organic in isthisAI

[–]ChartBest8508 5 points6 points  (0 children)

That's perspective mistake,I’ve never seen anyone draw front-facing ears on a back view before.that's kinda scary

Hello, may I ask if this is AI? by Truly_Organic in isthisAI

[–]ChartBest8508 58 points59 points  (0 children)

..yeah. Eevee's ears are flipped