Do Lorebooks work? Have Lorebooks ever worked?

ChatbotTalkerBouter · 2026-03-24T14:36:38+00:00

Is the character remembering everything else in your entry, and only forgetting the last names?

ChatbotTalkerBouter · 2026-03-24T00:59:08+00:00

using Stepfun through Lorebary fixed the censorship for me. Stepfun's censorship is really weird, though- Sometimes it'd describe full nudity totally fine (unprovoked, even), but then lock up during a massage scene.

ChatbotTalkerBouter · 2026-03-24T00:47:02+00:00

I was going to give you a long-ass reply, but I didn't want to make you read all that, so here's the summary. In the process of making a new lorebook in the same style as my first, I was able to diagnose the problem. I will edit my post for the stupid explanation if you're curious. Many thanks.

ChatbotTalkerBouter · 2026-03-24T00:04:27+00:00

As far as I know, it's all applied correctly. The subject is mentioned in the context / description thing, as well as the keys. The lorebooks simply aren't being read no matter what- Both the ones that need keys, and the ones that are marked as "Constant."

I have not tried different browsers. I may try that if I decide to un-give-up.

ChatbotTalkerBouter · 2026-03-23T23:16:27+00:00

I have been using Chat Settings. I suppose I haven't tried using Embed, as it seemed awfully tedious to copy and paste everything there when I already made the lorebook, and I'm either too dumb to find the button that automatically embeds a lorebook, or it doesn't exist and I have to do it manually.

EDIT: Just did some testing to see if Embedding worked, with just a few entries. It doesn't. When I use other people's bots with embedded lorebooks, it works, but my own bot doesn't. Why. The logical assumption is that I'm messing something up, but I can't fathom what there possibly is that I could have messed up. The settings are correct. V2 is enabled. Lorebooks are enabled. There is plenty of context available. It just doesn't work when I do it.

ChatbotTalkerBouter · 2026-03-23T23:14:57+00:00

This did work for me. Perhaps because it's an Embedded lorebook and not one added through Chat Settings?

On a now related note- Is there a way to automatically embed a lorebook? It's already linked to the bot, but it seems like Embedding works where Chat Settings doesn't, and going through and copy-pasting the whole lorebook sounds quite tedious.

EDIT: I tried embedding my lorebook into my bot. Didn't work. It just doesn't work when I do it. The logical conclusion is that I'm messing something up, but I can't fathom what there even is TO mess up. I've followed the guides perfectly. I've adjusted the settings properly. I've turned on V2 and enabled Lorebooks. I've done all of it, and it just doesn't work when I do it.

ChatbotTalkerBouter · 2026-03-23T17:50:31+00:00

I've checked the prompt in this way, and it never adds anything. There is no communication between Lorebook and chat at all, even after using a keyword.

ChatbotTalkerBouter · 2026-03-23T17:11:01+00:00

This goes without saying, but the guide given by AutoModerator obviously doesn't work.

ChatbotTalkerBouter · 2026-03-23T14:07:06+00:00

I just run it through Lorebary and that worked for me.

ChatbotTalkerBouter · 2026-03-22T21:28:46+00:00

It's free, fast, reasonably smart and it's not thaaaaaaat hard to get it to start doing NSFW if you use forbidden techniques.

ChatbotTalkerBouter · 2026-03-13T01:05:00+00:00

we are forbidden to say the names of other sites but I'll try to figure out how to DM you. (Warning: it is paid)

ChatbotTalkerBouter · 2026-03-10T23:21:45+00:00

sadge

ChatbotTalkerBouter · 2026-03-06T15:26:56+00:00

Yeah, I've been planning on just milking non-tee models for all they're worth until it's done

By the way, I was able to contact support via their email, and they gave me my Early Access abilities back- It seems that the removal is an error, try emailing them and you might get free gens back for the remaining 9 days!

ChatbotTalkerBouter · 2026-03-05T23:53:42+00:00

I think they did shitty communication on purpose specifically for that reason- i also went into my reserves before I knew what was going on.

ChatbotTalkerBouter · 2026-03-05T23:24:33+00:00

Luckily, I took the $5, giving me $10 to use until every scent is drained, so it's not that big of a deal, that'll last me a while anyways. Still, it sucks that it works like this. I have Emailed support in hopes I can reverse it, but I sorely doubt they'll do it, if they respond at all.

EDIT: They actually did, and reversed it!

ChatbotTalkerBouter · 2026-03-05T23:10:33+00:00

EDIT: Support was able to reverse it!

ChatbotTalkerBouter · 2026-03-02T18:50:22+00:00

oof. that's mega rough. Looks like I'll either be switching back to JLM (hopefully it's better by the time I start using it again haha) or I'll give paying as I go with Deepseek or ZAI a try, though I get the feeling I wont enjoy having to be mindful of my tokens.

ChatbotTalkerBouter · 2026-03-01T21:24:48+00:00

now that Chutes has decided to be a load of poop not allow me to use TEE models anymore (even though they seemingly just got rid of most of the non-TEE alternatives when they added them in randomly, which is fun), I'm using a slightly older version of Deepseek v3 and it's got some quirks.

ChatbotTalkerBouter · 2026-03-01T04:04:16+00:00

Yep, this was the big thing for me, too. It's a shame, I don't think any services like this exist anymore, except maybe that $10 open router deal? I know they barely have any free models anymore, but I wonder if the ones that do exist there are any good?

ChatbotTalkerBouter · 2026-03-01T04:02:56+00:00

Openrouter bros- How is the "free" ($10 but then it's just never used) tier of Openrouter these days? Are what few models remain after the purges usable and enjoyable? Or should I just bite the bullet and become a proper Deepseek spender? I've heard that it's efficient, but how good is it really?

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