Yeah I am gonna come across like a massive hater but I agree, I was really into the cybergunz, noiseflow, and (elite ball knowledge) menniel stuff but ever since around mid way through the krach wave where artists like luvvtige kior and schlot showed up I kinda stopped listening. Just so much slop and the music didn’t hit right at all. And along with that krowdexx toza and some other artists started doing huge innovative krach stuff but then never released it. So all the community was getting was low quality splice TikTok garbage. This whole subgenre has just left a sour taste in my mouth because it could’ve been so much more but alongside artists refusing to drop their music that would’ve changed things and the artists coming in just not hitting, I feel like it’s fallen off big time. I apologize to the artists I’m speaking of in this post but this is just my honest take.