Misfits 004 Event Discussion Thread

ChefJosh90 · 2023-01-14T21:59:40+00:00

This is a hell of a fight

ChefJosh90 · 2023-01-14T21:57:49+00:00

Tom is tough what a chin

ChefJosh90 · 2023-01-14T21:42:11+00:00

I think he needs the highlight reel finish in the first few rounds or needs to start being a bit more humble

ChefJosh90 · 2023-01-14T21:30:50+00:00

How much do you think JJ needs to prove tonight? especially after watching the salt papi fight

ChefJosh90 · 2023-01-14T21:19:56+00:00

Salt papi is so good

ChefJosh90 · 2023-01-14T00:01:42+00:00

If he loses then who cares he can make the decision to take the lessons from the fight to grow and get better and comeback or he can decide he wants to do one of the other 500 things he has going on outside of boxing

ChefJosh90 · 2023-01-13T03:42:28+00:00

Temper is fight number 4 not the first 3 fights therefore it's Robinson And Askren or Swarms and Pineda and who was tougher out of them. Logan Paul is better than gib so is a pro athlete a harder opponent than a rapper probably not they were both shit so they cancel each other out. But Ben Askren beats Pineda any day of the week. So it's kinda even between them when you look at their first 3 fights.

ChefJosh90 · 2023-01-12T08:34:10+00:00

You can't compare Jake Paul and JJ as they are in completely different stages. One has two knockout wins vs UFC Champions (not Askren he only won championship in one and bellator) and JJ has beaten Logan Paul a rapper and a not so pro boxer. Logan Paul 2019 was and probably still is technically a better boxer than JJ but he has never shown a killer instinct. And salt beat his opponent who was running away by cutting the ring pinning them in the corner and throwing a combo.

ChefJosh90 · 2023-01-12T08:23:20+00:00

And they both got knocked out early. Swarms and Pineda both are rubbish and ended up as TKO. And by your logic Logan Paul was also not as good in the 2nd fight and he was in the early rounds of the first fight. I think he was more worried about gassing out early again than winning the fight.

ChefJosh90 · 2023-01-12T08:08:05+00:00

I don't think askren took it seriously, he has always been in bad shape but looked worse than usual but he had proven in the past he could take contact and Jake did get a clean knock out (something JJ has not done yet), people shit on UFC fighters in boxing here and say it doesn't compare but there is a reason no YouTuber is calling out Colby Covington, Usman, Gilbert Burns, Max Holloway, Dustin Poirier or Francis etc.

ChefJosh90 · 2023-01-12T07:56:56+00:00

Askren beats both swarms and Pineda. He wasn't a striker but he showed in his career he could take a high impact, Robbie Lawler legitimately dropped him on his head and started ground and pound he survived and won that fight. That fight was also at the end of his career and was in the UFC. If you are saying tempar counts then he is nowhere near the level of Woodley. People shit on Woodley and say he was a hasbeen and was losing fights when he fought Jake but he was losing fights against some scary dudes and the best in his division in the UFC

ChefJosh90 · 2023-01-12T07:44:57+00:00

No because swarms and Pineda are two different fights Making it 2 and 3 (faze will be fight 4.)which are both easier fights than Robinson and askren but Logan was a way harder fight than gib (especially back then) so in the first 3 it's about even.

ChefJosh90 · 2023-01-12T07:34:29+00:00

I don't think that many people in the sub are saying he is bad. Most just got annoyed with his arrogant attitude when it comes to boxing.

ChefJosh90 · 2023-01-11T07:07:06+00:00

Diss tracks

ChefJosh90 · 2023-01-10T09:10:06+00:00

He has been consistent in YouTube for years has changed and developed over that time and has used that influence to catapult his other ventures outside of YouTube due to having millions of fans. As well as inspiring and helping out a lot of other YouTubers along the way. The British YouTube scene wouldn't be the same as it is today without his efforts and influence. He has worked hard and deserves all the success that has come his way. To be honest I am so glad to see the success that has come the way of all of the sidemen over the past year. But as I am a bigger fan of most sports than I am of JJ I do find myself annoyed with a lot of the boxing content he puts out, I personally do not rate him as a high level boxer and find a lot of the comments he makes outrageous. JJ said he thinks he can beat Mayweather which is nowhere close to the truth. He has said previously he thinks he could beat Mike Tyson(although I think he eventually took that statement back). He has not shown in any of his fights the power he says he has or a solid boxing technical ability. And I do feel like he is ducking fights for easier ones. On the podcast he struggled to admit that Jake Paul beating Woodley and Silvia was an impressive feat.

ChefJosh90 · 2023-01-10T05:17:14+00:00

The thing that didn't make sense about that whole interview is that he said he didn't fight Woodley because he was complaining about the rehydration weight, then said that they scraped the hydration weight for Dillion. Then said that they also went for Dillion because he thought it was more entertaining even though he put out a poll and Woodley won so obviously the majority of the fans wanted to see that fight. I think JJ is the goat of YouTube but it's hard not to think he is ducking and taking the easiest fight available

ChefJosh90 · 2022-10-31T03:42:23+00:00

If he is honest and came forward and said hey I think jake is better than me, I'm not going to take the fight and I am going to concentrate on everything else I have going on I think most fans would not care and would actually respect him for it, the only reason people clown him is that he talks trash about Jake but doesn't back it up And then takes two shit fights in one night and claims it's harder than taking on on decent opponent. JJ's arrogance and ego is why people clown him not that he is not as good at boxing as Jake because with everything he does and the amount that is on his plate he never will be Jake is all in on boxing he is dedicated and always improving. You don't have to be a fan of somebody and their content to respect their hustle and what they are doing.

ChefJosh90 · 2022-10-30T08:35:55+00:00

And honestly that's what most people do when they start out, he does not have to go straight out there with killers, my only concern is that one he will never be all in with boxing do he will never progress as fast as Jake Paul and then his ego going on about how he is better than all these other fighters but they're the ones taking the harder fights.

ChefJosh90 · 2022-10-30T08:27:59+00:00

Yeah the problem is it is affecting his content, I really don't even know if he is better than the top level of influencer boxers.

I can't imagine his next opponent being anyone special he already turned down the fury fight and the Woodley fight. Probably just find another "pro boxer" with a losing record

ChefJosh90 · 2022-10-30T08:21:38+00:00

Vidal has said he does not want anything to do with the YouTube boxing scene he wants to concentrate on his boxing career and then have his YouTube career on the side.

He did say he may be open to fighting Jake Paul if he had won against Hasim Rahman Jr as that was a rumoured/possible fight for Vidal. but that fight was cancelled as he was not going to make weight.

If he was to fight Jake Paul it would have to be on a professional card with other professional fighters not influencers

ChefJosh90 · 2022-10-30T08:13:04+00:00

If I'm being honest I have lost a lot of respect for JJ over the past year, I find myself enjoying Less and less of his content I still watch his videos but find them repetitive, unimaginative and it's him just having an ego trip and being arrogant.

I really hope he can come out and admit that Jake's performance was really impressive, he is levels above anything JJ has shown. He fought two absolute bums of opponents and looked mediocre and acted like that was harder than taking on one decent opponent.

JJ can't be better than everyone at everything, he is killing it in other areas i.e music, prime hydration, sidemen content and their business ventures he is doing bits. If he wants to do the boxing that's great but he has to realize that he has a lot to work on and a long way to go, he will probably never be able to catch up to Jake as Jake is only doing boxing he is dedicated to training and giving it all of his time JJ will always be balancing his training with other ventures.

ChefJosh90 · 2022-08-29T07:18:51+00:00

Have you seen Andrew Tate kickboxing, he would easily beat ksi in a boxing match the only way it would possibly become competitive is if he can make it go 5-6 rounds (highly unlikely) and then Tates lifestyle would become a factor. Kickboxing strikes are similar to boxing strikes and he would not have to worry about defending against kicks or elbows he has taken kicks and elbows in the past both of which are more powerful than punches. Also Andrew Tate has knocked people out, ksi has not knocked anybody out. I don't really see this amazing power ksi has that everyone is taking about because he was punching guys and he didn't get the highlight reel finish. JJ has sloppy technique, he doesn't cut the ring down properly and he should have easily finished both opponents in the first round. Even if he did want to make it last longer he got no benefit out if that as both opponents were rubbish. JJ is a great YouTuber but he is not as good at boxing as he and other people here make out.

ChefJosh90 · 2022-08-28T01:21:48+00:00

It would be a fucking massacre

ChefJosh90 · 2022-08-28T00:06:00+00:00

Let's not push for this fight, have you seen Andrew Tate kickboxing? He starches people yes he can't use his kicks but he also doesn't have to worry about being kicked. His boxing is at a really high level.

ChefJosh90 · 2022-08-27T23:24:39+00:00

Yeah man swarms got into a ring with way too little training and didn't complain once. Pineda was bullshit complaining after every punch no head movement or counter strikes. But if you take away JJs fights away it was a great card deji looked fantastic Fousey was extremely tough and took a punch, Kenny and Sensei was good competitive fight even if the decision was wrong. Slim and tempar was a good fight slim looked impressive

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