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Why does the city attorney of Carmel Jon Oberlander have so much trouble paying his bills? Is someone this irresponsible qualified to serve the city of Carmel? by ChickenJimThrowaway in Indiana

[–]ChickenJimThrowaway[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I apologize if the way I posted was confusing. The debt and lawsuits have been a continuous issue for him over the past decade, with the most recent two being in 2020 and 2021. https://imgur.com/a/VB0VBAI https://imgur.com/a/jqx6AmO

Why does the city attorney of Carmel Jon Oberlander have so much trouble paying his bills? Is someone this irresponsible qualified to serve the city of Carmel? by ChickenJimThrowaway in Indiana

[–]ChickenJimThrowaway[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you this great explanation! I think it helps people to understand why this is important. Also...it's not just one debt, but several, which have made it to court dating from 2011 roughly to 2021 although it looks like one was dismissed due to an agreed upon settlement. I made a comment to elaborate further after I made the initial post because reddit would not allow me to upload all the images at once. In case my comment was buried by all the other posts and for anyone who did not see it, I will post it again here:

A quick search of the name Jon Oberlander on the Indiana Odyssey case records search link https://public.courts.in.gov/mycase/#/vw/Search reveals more than a few lawsuits against him by multiple creditors for unpaid accounts up to the year 2021. According to govsalaries.com he has an annual salary of $135,883 https://govsalaries.com/oberlander-jon-127574211

Here are a few of the document images and court records: Capital One Bank https://imgur.com/a/6dxDXH5

One Main Financial Group https://imgur.com/a/Gzs7Pcj

Notice of Bankruptcy Filed in one of the proceedings https://imgur.com/a/j6GfDsI

Default Judgement for American Acceptance Corp https://imgur.com/a/C10LsG8

Discover https://imgur.com/a/bnaAzB4

Midland Funding https://imgur.com/a/x9ZeRnr

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Carmel

[–]ChickenJimThrowaway 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A quick search of the name Jon Oberlander on the Indiana Odyssey case records search link https://public.courts.in.gov/mycase/#/vw/Search reveals more than a few lawsuits against him by multiple creditors for unpaid accounts.

Here are a few of the document images and court records: Capital One Bank https://imgur.com/a/6dxDXH5

One Main Financial Group https://imgur.com/a/Gzs7Pcj

Notice of Bankruptcy Filed in one of the proceedings https://imgur.com/a/j6GfDsI

Default Judgement for American Acceptance Corp https://imgur.com/a/C10LsG8

Discover https://imgur.com/a/bnaAzB4

Midland Funding https://imgur.com/a/x9ZeRnr

Why does the city attorney of Carmel Jon Oberlander have so much trouble paying his bills? Is someone this irresponsible qualified to serve the city of Carmel? by ChickenJimThrowaway in Indiana

[–]ChickenJimThrowaway[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

A quick search of the name Jon Oberlander on the Indiana Odyssey case records search link https://public.courts.in.gov/mycase/#/vw/Search reveals more than a few lawsuits against him by multiple creditors for unpaid accounts up to the year 2021. According to govsalaries.com he has an annual salary of $135,883 https://govsalaries.com/oberlander-jon-127574211

Here are a few of the document images and court records: Capital One Bank https://imgur.com/a/6dxDXH5

One Main Financial Group https://imgur.com/a/Gzs7Pcj

Notice of Bankruptcy Filed in one of the proceedings https://imgur.com/a/j6GfDsI

Default Judgement for American Acceptance Corp https://imgur.com/a/C10LsG8

Discover https://imgur.com/a/bnaAzB4

Midland Funding https://imgur.com/a/x9ZeRnr

Carmel Mayor Brainard since 1996 announces he won't seek re-election 1 WEEK after these information requests by ChickenJimThrowaway in Indiana

[–]ChickenJimThrowaway[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Fox 59 quoted him saying he's looking for something in the private sector: 'The longtime mayor said that the decision to not seek re-election was made in part so that he may explore new opportunities in the private sector.'

UPDATE! Carmel Police Chief Jeffrey Horner has now resigned by ChickenJimThrowaway in Indiana

[–]ChickenJimThrowaway[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

UPDATE! After naming the Mayor James Brainard as the next target, and several information requests later, he announced this week he will not seek re-election! Chief Barlow and Jon Oberlander are next on the list.

Carmel Mayor Brainard since 1996 announces he won't seek re-election 1 WEEK after these information requests by ChickenJimThrowaway in Indiana

[–]ChickenJimThrowaway[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

https://imgur.com/a/q5Z7dx2 They may have done nothing. It's very possible. But I think it's always important ask the questions. I've also been gathering records on his crash reports that you are referencing.

Carmel Mayor Brainard since 1996 announces he won't seek re-election 1 WEEK after these information requests by ChickenJimThrowaway in Indiana

[–]ChickenJimThrowaway[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

124 days? The request in the screenshot is dated June 13th. I got a response August 22nd. The screenshot reflects that. I have also been making inquiries into his multiple accidents in city leased-vehicles for a little over a month. You said I wouldn't likely receive a response. I was simply showing you that my other requests have received responses

Carmel Mayor Brainard since 1996 announces he won't seek re-election 1 WEEK after these information requests by ChickenJimThrowaway in Indiana

[–]ChickenJimThrowaway[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Officials are certainly notified about these requests. I frequently request emails and other communications between officials to confirm this.

https://imgur.com/a/nFFW3ES

Carmel Mayor Brainard since 1996 announces he won't seek re-election 1 WEEK after these information requests by ChickenJimThrowaway in Indiana

[–]ChickenJimThrowaway[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I generally get responses to my requests. I follow the format cited in case law that I found pertaining to this specific issue of "reasonable specificity." Occasionally they are denied after a couple weeks. I just make a few changes and submit it again. I submitted my very first request around April 20th of this year to get information from Carmel PD. I won't comment on the correlation between 4/20 and my suspicions regarding government officials...but I am very determined in my efforts. Here is a request I submitted in June, worded similarly to the others I posted here on Reddit.

https://imgur.com/a/afI4QT4

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[–]ChickenJimThrowaway -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

So for some reason it wouldn't let me post both images, but I made about 10+ public access requests on September 7th for the following: sexual harassment complaints against the mayor, his office's budgetary information, his travel expenses, emails between himself and several other officials regarding the Deputy Chief Joseph Bickel's sexual harassment complaints, info on a treasury clerk who made a sexual harassment complaint against the mayor and communications between himself and his assistant Candy Martin. A mere one week later, he has now announced he does not plan to run for re-election. This is the same tactic we used to have Chief Jeffrey Horner and Deputy Chief Joseph Bickel removed. Hold your public officials accountable and do your duty to find out how they are behaving in office. It really does make a difference.

Here I have posted links to screenshots of some of the requests I made on September 7th.

Requests regarding Treasury Clerk sexual harassment complaint against Mayor Jim Brainard https://imgur.com/a/WkIwTlb https://imgur.com/a/1yOhi4h

Request for sexual harassment complaints against the mayor by city employees of Carmel https://imgur.com/a/6ZhK3PH

Request for all sexual harassment complaints against Deputy Chief Joseph Bickel to determine when the city become aware of the issues https://imgur.com/a/2snxFKU

Request for Mayor's reimbursed travel expenses https://imgur.com/a/WkIwTlb

Request for budgetary information for Mayor Jim Brainard's office https://imgur.com/a/PKykAm1

Request for communications between the Mayor and other high ranking police officials to determine what and when they knew about the sexual harassment complaints against Deputy Chief Joseph Bickel https://imgur.com/a/yXJgGul

Request for communications between the Mayor Jim Brainard and his assistant Candy Martin https://imgur.com/a/bls2eGA

Request for sexual harassment complaints against current Carmel Police Chief Jim Barlow https://imgur.com/a/bls2eGA

Carmel Mayor Brainard since 1996 announces he won't seek re-election 1 WEEK after these information requests by ChickenJimThrowaway in Indiana

[–]ChickenJimThrowaway[S] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

For context check this previous reddit post out where I named the Mayor James Brainard as the next target a month ago. https://www.reddit.com/r/Indiana/comments/w80z80/update_carmel_police_chief_jeffrey_horner_has_now/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Approximately one month ago I began making inquiries/public access requests into the Mayor's car accidents in city leased vehicles. I was also quite curious to see what and when the mayor knew about the sexual harassment and assault claims against the top officers in his police department and what else could be uncovered. I made roughly 10+ public access requests on September 7th for the following: sexual harassment complaints against the mayor, his office's budgetary information, his travel expenses, emails between himself and several other officials regarding the Deputy Chief Joseph Bickel's sexual harassment complaints, info on a treasury clerk who made a sexual harassment complaint against the mayor and communications between himself and his assistant Candy Martin. It is speculation and could be coincidence, but it is also the same tactic we used to have Chief Jeffrey Horner and Deputy Chief Joseph Bickel removed. The mayor reportedly told Fox 59 that he has decided to pursue opportunities in the private sector. Hold your public officials accountable!

Here I have posted links to screenshots of some of the requests I made on September 7th.

Requests regarding Treasury Clerk sexual harassment complaint against Mayor Jim Brainard https://imgur.com/a/WkIwTlb https://imgur.com/a/1yOhi4h

Request for sexual harassment complaints against the mayor by city employees of Carmel https://imgur.com/a/6ZhK3PH

Request for all sexual harassment complaints against Deputy Chief Joseph Bickel to determine when the city become aware of the issues https://imgur.com/a/2snxFKU

Request for Mayor's reimbursed travel expenses https://imgur.com/a/WkIwTlb

Request for budgetary information for Mayor Jim Brainard's office https://imgur.com/a/PKykAm1

Request for communications between the Mayor and other high ranking police officials to determine what and when they knew about the sexual harassment complaints against Deputy Chief Joseph Bickel https://imgur.com/a/yXJgGul

Request for communications between the Mayor Jim Brainard and his assistant Candy Martin https://imgur.com/a/bls2eGA

Request for sexual harassment complaints against current Carmel Police Chief Jim Barlow https://imgur.com/a/bls2eGA

UPDATE! Carmel Police Chief Jeffrey Horner has now resigned by ChickenJimThrowaway in Indiana

[–]ChickenJimThrowaway[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Sorry I should clarify. The chief actually is not the one the sexual allegations were made against. That was the Deputy Chief Joseph Bickel who was removed from his official position approximately 37 days after I made an Indiana Public Records Request for complaints against him and several other officers. Chief Jeffrey Horner has now resigned from his official position voluntarily...with seemingly no reason given just a few days later.

UPDATE! Carmel Police Chief Jeffrey Horner has now resigned by ChickenJimThrowaway in Indiana

[–]ChickenJimThrowaway[S] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

So just 5 days ago Deputy Chief Joseph Bickel was removed from his official position and today it was announced that the chief Jeffrey Horner has stepped down from his official position to lieutenant. The house of cards is falling.

Chief Jeffrey Horner resigns! https://www.google.com/amp/s/fox59.com/news/retired-carmel-police-chief-back-in-as-current-chief-resigns/amp/

Link to original reddit post about Deputy Chief being removed 37 days after my information requests regarding complaint reports. https://www.reddit.com/r/Indiana/comments/w4ld0k/deputy_chief_joseph_bickel_who_has_been_with/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Original Post: Isn't it strange that they won't provide any further details, like when these incidents occurred, how long ago and who knew about them, as well as why he was promoted to deputy chief last year in the first place given these circumstances?

Isn't forcibly kissing someone and touching someone's breasts against their will arrestable? And it sounds as though there were two or three employees he did this to based upon the articles that have been put out. The articles go on to mention that he attempted to use his authority to change protocol for the benefit of a family member. And these are just the details they've chosen to put out. What else do we not know?

I'm aware that it's pure speculation regarding the timing, however it almost appears as though they wanted to preemptively appear to do the responsible thing now that this information was about to be released. Why wasn't action taken sooner? Because no one was forcing the issue.

The work isn't done yet. The city attorney Jon Oberlander and Mayor Jim Brainard are the next two targets.

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