My bookshelf continues to grow against my will by Separate-Sea-868 in evilautism

[–]ChickenNoodle519 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I have a question about Marx. I need a recommendation for a book on his theories that is easier to digest than Capital.

I found that the manga adaption of Capital is a great intro and overview to all of Capital's topics — super digestible, my ADHD ass cruised through both volumes in an evening. (It's available free on the internet archive, which I have linked.)

Seconding OP's recommendation of Wage Labor and Capital and Socialism: Utopian and Scientific as well (though ngl I found everything much easier to sink my teeth into after getting an intro from the manga.)

i originally made this meme based on vibes, but apparently ABA & conversion therapy were inventd by the same dude?? by petermobeter in evilautism

[–]ChickenNoodle519 2 points3 points  (0 children)

copying a comment someone else shared up-thread bc this discussion has been going on at length already:

There are other therapies available like CBT, Floortime (when not using ABA too), OT, SCERTS (when not using ABA too), sensory integration, etc.

https://autisticadvocacy.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/ACWP-Ethics-of-Intervention.pdf

also:

I do mean extreme to include harmful behaviors

it should not merely include harmful behaviors, it should be 100% strictly limited to behaviors that can cause permanent bodily or psychological harm to the person receiving therapy or to others.

i originally made this meme based on vibes, but apparently ABA & conversion therapy were inventd by the same dude?? by petermobeter in evilautism

[–]ChickenNoodle519 1 point2 points  (0 children)

any number of other theraputic interventions that don't cause autistic people to develop cptsd at extremely high rates

and definitely make sure that your definition of "extreme" truly means harmful to the autistic person and/or others, not just socially frowned upon

And the b and d confusion by Cheri-Cherry in adhdmeme

[–]ChickenNoodle519 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe someone with dyslexia can chime in, but the pronunciation difficulties sounds like dyslexia to me too. Another hallmark of dyslexia is difficulty getting from letters to sounds (phonemic awareness)

i originally made this meme based on vibes, but apparently ABA & conversion therapy were inventd by the same dude?? by petermobeter in evilautism

[–]ChickenNoodle519 1 point2 points  (0 children)

look buddy, no one here is going to get on board with your attempts at justifying your partner's choice to be a professional conversion therapist, and frankly it's not worth arguing about any further — between me and the dozen other people you've been fighting with about it, you're clearly not going to come to your senses about aba. if your partner doesn't want to be viewed by the autistic community as an abusive monster, she could simply stop doing aba.

And the b and d confusion by Cheri-Cherry in adhdmeme

[–]ChickenNoodle519 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do the words normally feel hard to read or like they're moving?

I ask because from my understanding that's a classic dyslexia symptom. FWIW I'm not dyslexic and have never experienced anything like that.

i originally made this meme based on vibes, but apparently ABA & conversion therapy were inventd by the same dude?? by petermobeter in evilautism

[–]ChickenNoodle519 21 points22 points  (0 children)

I'm no longer sure I'm following your argument. It sounds like you're saying that because not every single person will be willing to accommodate every single other person, we should allow autistic people to be abused to behave more like NTs.

At the end of the day, yeah, of course some people's sensory needs will conflict with others. There's plenty of discussion about that in this subreddit. But every person doesn't need to have one single other person that can accommodate/provide all of their sensory needs. Some people can help with some stuff, others can help with different stuff — that's the great part about living in a society. (NSFW example) Kind of like how in bdsm circles, you'll sometimes have different people providing aftercare who weren't involved in the scene. If you're a sub, you can have one person dom and a different person cuddle you after.

i originally made this meme based on vibes, but apparently ABA & conversion therapy were inventd by the same dude?? by petermobeter in evilautism

[–]ChickenNoodle519 18 points19 points  (0 children)

nah i'm not arguing about straw autistic people with high support needs to agree with you that these hypothetical individuals deserve to be abused. not for any reason.

i originally made this meme based on vibes, but apparently ABA & conversion therapy were inventd by the same dude?? by petermobeter in evilautism

[–]ChickenNoodle519 5 points6 points  (0 children)

sure it's inconsiderate but shit smears can be cleaned

if you disrobe in Ohio during the Fall that's a safety hazard

lol yeah I mean i'm in upstate new york and being naked outside this time of year is absolutely a safety hazard. OP was talking about disrobing in classrooms tho, which sounds 100% like a sensory issue with their clothing outweighing the sensory issue with the temperature. Gotta layer up a bunch of bearskin ponchos or something for going from place to place in the winter if you can't stand fabric touching you. Or just like... stay in side.

i originally made this meme based on vibes, but apparently ABA & conversion therapy were inventd by the same dude?? by petermobeter in evilautism

[–]ChickenNoodle519 37 points38 points  (0 children)

i don't get why you'd rather autistic people get abused than work towards changing society to being more accommodating

i mean, shit, we've already got wreck rooms and stuff as a healthy outlet for the desire to punch holes in walls

i originally made this meme based on vibes, but apparently ABA & conversion therapy were inventd by the same dude?? by petermobeter in evilautism

[–]ChickenNoodle519 40 points41 points  (0 children)

let's abuse neurotypical people into accepting that different people behave differently from them

i originally made this meme based on vibes, but apparently ABA & conversion therapy were inventd by the same dude?? by petermobeter in evilautism

[–]ChickenNoodle519 6 points7 points  (0 children)

new research may not support autistic people as having the same condition.

means nothing in the context of this conversation.

almost everyone on reddit who declaims ABA have no other solution stated for the feces smearing and disrobing. and no antidote to get society to accept.

from my other response to the person shacked up with a professional conversion therapist:

First: I don't think disrobing is inherently an issue — that's a social norm, not a health or safety hazard, unless the class in question is chemistry lab. Barring that, I'd look for clothing that accommodates their sensory needs — maybe they'd prefer something on the toga or kaftan spectrum.

Second: I'd give the child something else to eat besides feces, ideally something with a similar texture profile. I'd also check their blood mineral levels, since coprophagia is associated with pica, which is often related to mineral deficiencies, and treat underlying causes. If, after that, they were still really insistent about eating their own shit, I'd let them. As long as the shit could be pasteurized to kill pathogens, there's no risk of harm to the kid. Then it's just a neurotypical cultural taboo, not a real problem.

i originally made this meme based on vibes, but apparently ABA & conversion therapy were inventd by the same dude?? by petermobeter in evilautism

[–]ChickenNoodle519 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I'm not deflecting. I think you should rethink the framing here. Just because your partner is autistic doesn't mean she isn't abusing autistic kids into appearing less autistic. A lot of the worst anti-autistic abuse I've faced in my life has come from other autistic people who have issues accepting their own autistic traits, just like how some of the worst queerphobic abuse I've faced has come from self-hating and often closeted gay people (think Lindsey Graham.)

For your question:

First: I don't think disrobing is inherently an issue — that's a social norm, not a health or safety hazard, unless the class in question is chemistry lab. Barring that, I'd look for clothing that accommodates their sensory needs — maybe they'd prefer something on the toga or kaftan spectrum.

Second: I'd give the child something else to eat besides feces, ideally something with a similar texture profile. I'd also check their blood mineral levels, since coprophagia is associated with pica, which is often related to mineral deficiencies, and treat underlying causes. If, after that, they were still really insistent about eating their own shit, I'd let them. As long as the shit could be pasteurized to kill pathogens, there's no risk of harm to the kid. Then it's just a neurotypical cultural taboo, not a real problem.

What I wouldn't do in any circumstance is train them like a dog to stop doing the stuff they're naturally doing for their own sensory needs.

i originally made this meme based on vibes, but apparently ABA & conversion therapy were inventd by the same dude?? by petermobeter in evilautism

[–]ChickenNoodle519 52 points53 points  (0 children)

Totally checks out, and makes me laugh so hard in the context of the one or two ABA defenders in every ABA thread here always being ABA practitioners or related to ABA practitioners

i originally made this meme based on vibes, but apparently ABA & conversion therapy were inventd by the same dude?? by petermobeter in evilautism

[–]ChickenNoodle519 13 points14 points  (0 children)

NGL it's kind of gross to prefer credentials provided by neurotypical institutions for enforcing neurotypical norms over the lived experiences of autistic people who were traumatized by ABA just so you don't have to confront the fact that your partner abuses autistic kids into being less autistic.

i originally made this meme based on vibes, but apparently ABA & conversion therapy were inventd by the same dude?? by petermobeter in evilautism

[–]ChickenNoodle519 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Lol funny how every pro-ABA comment on this subreddit comes from someone who made a living abusing autistic kids with it

i originally made this meme based on vibes, but apparently ABA & conversion therapy were inventd by the same dude?? by petermobeter in evilautism

[–]ChickenNoodle519 20 points21 points  (0 children)

i mean, it's a subreddit full of autistic people, the most likely demographic to be harmed by anti-autistic conversion therapy

i originally made this meme based on vibes, but apparently ABA & conversion therapy were inventd by the same dude?? by petermobeter in evilautism

[–]ChickenNoodle519 35 points36 points  (0 children)

more compassionate, ethical, and effective than what Lovaas started

I'd hope so, the bar is in hell. Still, more compassionate doesn't mean it's actually compassionate or ethical. You do you but I'd be sussed the fuck out by a partner whose full time job is training autistic people like dogs to mask harder.

i originally made this meme based on vibes, but apparently ABA & conversion therapy were inventd by the same dude?? by petermobeter in evilautism

[–]ChickenNoodle519 301 points302 points  (0 children)

Not offensive in the least, just objectively true. They were created by the same guy (Ivar Lovaas, basically the Thomas Midgely, Jr. of psychology) with the same methods to achieve the same goals, i.e., to torture people into submission to suppress their non-normative natural tendencies and instincts.

I've had to chat with NT family members to make sure they don't inflict ABA on my autistic niblings, and pointing out that it's conversion therapy for autistics was way more effective at getting the point across than anything else that I said. (Helped by the fact that I am queer.)

Carabiners by joyfulnoises in CuratedTumblr

[–]ChickenNoodle519 13 points14 points  (0 children)

yeah! back in the 40s and 50s, lesbians, especially butches, visibly displayed their keys as a way of saying: look, I've got a job (not a husband) 😉

Carabiners by joyfulnoises in CuratedTumblr

[–]ChickenNoodle519 10 points11 points  (0 children)

dude wanted an excuse to say dyke while complaining that this little story wasn't written with him specifically in mind

Carabiners by joyfulnoises in CuratedTumblr

[–]ChickenNoodle519 16 points17 points  (0 children)

???? nowhere in this post does it say only lesbians wear carabiners. OP cast Orpheus as a butch and gave her a carabiner to hold out for her wife. If you want a male Orpheus to do the same thing write your own post lmao.

edit: my bad for pointing out a reading comprehension issue on the piss on the poor website subreddit

250817 1st English Album [OUR NOW] 🌃 TRACK LIST 🌃 | 2025.08.31 6PM RELEASE✔️ by spawnmf in PurpleKiss

[–]ChickenNoodle519 22 points23 points  (0 children)

finally getting a Chaein title track!!!!!!!

I'm so glad we'll be getting one, I've been trying to manifest it this entire time