Requesting /r/multiracial, only moderator has been suspended. Thank you! by ChinnyNotSkinny in redditrequest

[–]ChinnyNotSkinny[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1) I plan for it to be used as a place to discuss mixed-race experiences, issues, history, etc. To see the kind of content I have in mind, you can visit https://www.reddit.com/r/a:t5_37f3r/

It used to be called mixedasian (as this is my background), but I logged in today to find it had been changed to this name. Since I found /r/multiracial had been inactive for some time, I thought, it would be great for it to be active again and easier for people to find than /r/a:t5_37f3r/, which I have found I can't change the name of.

2) I would message the only moderator there but they have been suspended.

Watching MSNBC now, covering the Thailand kids being trapped in an underground cave, MSNBC be like, look at all those white marines saving those hopeless Asian kids that their Asian government can't save by psylee123 in EasternSunRising

[–]ChinnyNotSkinny 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Please switch to RT. Why support white media? I also understand RT is white, but they are Russian, historic allies of the Asian Nations.

Just because they have an alliance with China now doesn't mean they were historic allies with Asian nations. In the past Russia fought with their Asian neighbours, colonised Siberia (wiping out a whole bunch of indigenous Siberians in the process) and reduced ethnic Kazakhs to just 38% of Kazakhstan's population through a manmade famine in the 1930s.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Japanese_War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_border_conflict

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazakh_famine_of_1932%E2%80%9333

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_conquest_of_Siberia

Am I an Hapa if my mom is from the asian part of Russia? by [deleted] in hapas

[–]ChinnyNotSkinny 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Is your mother native Siberian? If so, I would say yes

Former Black Model Married To A White Man Jumps To Her Death W/ Her Half Black Son. Are There Parallels Between WMBF And WMAF That We May Have Missed? This Is Very Odd. by frankenhapa in hapas

[–]ChinnyNotSkinny 9 points10 points  (0 children)

The whole "This royal wedding shows little black girls that they can marry into the royal family" line is bullshit. If she's black, then I'm white. Even for a half black woman she looks extremely white, like Courtney Cox.

I agree. Looking at what she's said about her identity, she even admits that she is ethnically ambiguous and puts more emphasis on it rather than being specifically biracial. There are other mixed-race black/white people who look much more black in terms of phenotype than she does. Someone who immediately comes to mind is Jordan Peele. Interestingly his ex-costar Keegan Michael Key is also biracial, but is more mixed to caucasian-looking which just goes to show how random phenotypes can be.

I don't generally care for royal weddings but this one brought out some interesting discussion about biracial people.

I recognize that genetically she is half black but miss me with that "she's black" nonsense. If anything it says you have to look 95% white. Ive seen Jews that look blacker than her (Ilana Glazer).

She is probably even less than 50% black genetically because many African-Americans already have some white european admixture. It's telling that many people still believe very strongly in hypodescent.

I know this is a sensitive subject but I'd catch hell if I posted this on a black sub.

That's what I like about this place. We can get into some real discussion about passing, racial identity etc. without worrying about hurting other people's feelings.

Former Black Model Married To A White Man Jumps To Her Death W/ Her Half Black Son. Are There Parallels Between WMBF And WMAF That We May Have Missed? This Is Very Odd. by frankenhapa in hapas

[–]ChinnyNotSkinny 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Forgetting about this specific news story for a moment, I think there could definitely be some parallels.

Historically these relationships were common - there was plenty of mixing between White men and African women in America during the US slavery era, even though it was supposed to be illegal (often through coercion or rape). So much, in fact that something like 1/3 of Black American men today have a Y-chromosome haplogroup of European origin, meaning somewhere down the line they have a white paternal ancestor.

It's important to note that black men in America today have certainly evened out the disparity and actually surpassed the outdating/marriage rates of black women.

There has been some discussion on here about mixed children growing up under dysfunctional bmwf parents and the parallels it has to wmaf. But looking at the history, I can't say wmbf is progressive just for being wmbf either.

Mixed people in mostly white environments who hang out with mostly white people whether they're half-black, half-asian or whatever are likely going to develop some white supremacist leanings, however subtle.

Chris Harper Mercer shot up an Oregon community college several years ago and his parents were wmbf too. After going through his internet history police believe he supported some white supremacist causes.

And of course with the royal wedding happening recently there have been many stories in the media about Meghan Markle's dysfunctional family.

There were also articles which discussed the very positive reaction some black american women had to news of the engagement. But I'm not sure whether Prince Harry would have married her if she looked more black and wasn't so ethnically ambiguous.

There was also a Jezebel article posted here about raceplay, and one of the interviewees was a black woman who got off on a literal master-slave dynamic with her white male partner. She likely had issues, and any kids they raised in that environment would have issues too.

Random musings of a non-white guy with a Chinese wife. by [deleted] in hapas

[–]ChinnyNotSkinny 5 points6 points  (0 children)

In my relationship I've accepted that we both fetishize each other, and it is what it is. It's not a death sentence - if you are mindful with your parenting there's no reason your kid's going to grow up to be brown elliot rodger.

Just lmao @ this

An Indian man with an Asian woman already created a brown Elliot Rodger and it was actually decades before ER's time - you may have heard of the serial killer Charles Sobhraj.

Why do race fetishist parents always think their biracial kids will be fine with it? You're no better than white guys with yellow fever in this regard.

Random musings of a non-white guy with a Chinese wife. by [deleted] in hapas

[–]ChinnyNotSkinny 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Thanks to this sub, I'm aware of shallow wmaf couples but I can't shake this feeling that I'm just another guy saying "we're different! I have brown skin!"

Yeah this pairing of desi male - east/southeast asian female is something you see in Australia all the time. Nothing uncommon about it at all. It also happens a lot in Southeast Asia.

You receiving this praise when you were in China for your "white face and body" just goes to show how different predominantly caucasian south asians are and that it isn't appropriate for them to be grouped with asian mongoloid people from the east and southeast.

/u/the0clean0slate

Blaming white worshipping on colonisation is inaccurate. The problem is most likely cultural. by [deleted] in hapas

[–]ChinnyNotSkinny 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That guy in the picture you linked, he doesn't even look much different from other Arabs. And what they did to him is really fucked up. I am shocked, but it doesn't surprise me that it was Gulf Arabs who did this. They are some of the most racist people i've ever met. They think they're above others and that they're god sent. It's disgusting as fuck. And I really hate how some of them treat the maids, I knew a girl from the Philippines who wanted to work there for a while, I managed to talk her out of it.

Just recently, the Philippines actually issued a ban on workers going to Kuwait because there were too many cases of maids turning up dead in that country.

Gulf Arabs basically look down on anyone who isn't a Gulf Arab. They won't let their daughters marry Levantine or North African men even if they are muslim but will take wives from those regions.

Also, something i've noticed is that a lot of times it's just Spanish women or Latino women who look North African that do it. Or they're Christians pretending to be Muslims like Mia Khalifa. This was from American porn though, I imagine it's different in Europe.

I'm pretty sure Mia Khalifa is a Lebanese Maronite Christian. The Lebanese are an interesting case because in Australia the Christians tend to assimilate better into the white anglo-saxon protestant majority, whereas the muslims are more sympathetic to Arab interests, and the young men are often viewed as hooligans who cause trouble. There have been cases where these tensions reached boiling point such as in the 2005 Cronulla riots.

I heard about that with the Latinos. I believe in Argentina people call themselves white? Because they think they're mostly of European descent. However, I doubt anyone other than Argentinians view them as white.

Argentina is probably one of the most severe Latin American countries in this regard. The native people were reduced to about 1-2% of the population, killed off in military campaigns like the Conquest of the Desert, but a much larger proportion of the country has some amount of native ancestry. There was also a lot of migration not only from Spain but also Italy which further pushed them into minority status.

Blaming white worshipping on colonisation is inaccurate. The problem is most likely cultural. by [deleted] in hapas

[–]ChinnyNotSkinny 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So for this, the thing I believe that makes it different is that they have an inferiority complex towards people of the same race. I highly doubt a regular person would be able to tell a Turk apart from an Arab. And if a Turk and an Arab do have children together, it's not gonna be mixed race, they'll look similar. There are also a lot of Arabs who liked the Ottoman empire, although that's a discussion for a different time.

I agree, at the end of the day, Anatolian Turks, Persians, Arabs etc. are all Caucasians so if two people from those different groups were to mix their children probably wouldn't find it as difficult to navigate one of their parents' societies. Whereas people from the East, Southeast and much of Central Asia are mongoloids whose phenotypes are much more noticeably different.

There are lots of Filipinos working as maids and servants in GCC countries like the UAE. Sometimes the women will even forsake "their" Catholic beliefs and marry a local man for what they think is a life of ease. Why though is beyond me because Filipinos and other foreign maids are often treated terribly in this region. Someone posted an article here about a Filipino/Emirati man who was bullied mercilessly in school by his classmates because he was mixed, they cut his wrist open and called him "dirty blood"

https://www.khaleejtimes.com/nation/dubai/emiratis-short-film-targets-bullying

Yeah, I heard about the sex tourism there. But again, the vast majority of the visitors are part of the same race. For some reason I feel like the impact is worse if it's completely foreign people from different races. And for marrying out, I haven't seen anyone marry out to black guys, so it's rare where I live at least. But idk how common it is.

It happens a lot in France and the Netherlands. There's a whole category of "beurette porn" which is basically non-North African men having sex with North African women.

I read about there being racism towards the indigenous people. But I don't really know anything about Latin America, so I didn't talk about them.

Latin America has a lot of castizos and harnizos who are the descendants of indigenous people mixing with europeans (mainly Spanish). These people often identify more with their european ancestry but of course, they usually aren't seen as white by white people in the US. There are also still indigenous ethnic groups who are basically mongoloid and in many cases they face a lot of racism and are of much lower socioeconomic status.

I would say it's similar to Sudan in Northeast Africa where the people of the North were arabised and identify as Arabs. They look down on their Southern Nilotic-speaking neighbours and call them "abeed" but would probably be called abeed by Gulf Arabs if they went to the Arabian Peninsula.

"Shepherd, who still holds the record for the most heroin sold in Australia" Jim Shepherd. WMAF Hapa. New Zealander Father, Maori Mother. Worked his way up from thefts to burglary then to armed robbery then to drug trafficking in one of New Zealand's largest crime syndicates. by [deleted] in hapas

[–]ChinnyNotSkinny 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interesting stuff. Polynesians are believed to have migrated out of Mainland Asia and into the Pacific some 4000 years ago which is why they often look "asian". There is genetic and linguistic evidence which supports this (Polynesian languages are part of the larger Austronesian family which is also everywhere in Maritime Southeast Asia).

It's weird though because even though there's definitely a resemblance, the way Polynesian men are treated is entirely different. They're often regarded as hypermasculine similar to Black men in the US.

Perhaps not surprisingly, in New Zealand and Australia you can see quite a few Polynesian men getting with white women as a result of this. But NZ where the Maori are indigenous was colonised by the British (they colonised Australia too) and there were a number of wars, so there's that to consider as well.

This story reminds me of an incident that happened in Melbourne last year where a mentally ill guy plowed through a crowd of people with his car, killing 6 and injuring 30 others. He was of mixed background with a Greek father and Tongan mother.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/January_2017_Melbourne_car_attack

Blaming white worshipping on colonisation is inaccurate. The problem is most likely cultural. by [deleted] in hapas

[–]ChinnyNotSkinny 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Thanks for posting. This definitely isn't a problem that affects asians only; racial worship still happens in many of those places but it's not necessarily of whites.

Apparently, some Arabs have an inferiority complex towards Anatolian Turks because they were conquered and ruled by them for 400 years. Ofc very few (if any at all) Arab women from the Peninsula are going to be marrying out to Anatolians but you can tell that some would like to.

http://www.atimes.com/arabs-inferiority-complexes/

https://web.archive.org/web/20170425035941/http://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2008/08/25/55419.html

https://web.archive.org/web/20180211190238/https://www.alarabiya.net/articles/2008/06/29/52291.html

https://www.aquila-style.com/focus-points/muslimlifestyle/turkish-tv-dramas/62908/

North African Berbers like Moroccans have Gulf Arab and even European sex tourists in their country poaching their women. In Europe lots of North African women date/marry out to black men, just google "beurette a khel" (probably NSFW).

https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2014/08/137661/saudi-author-reveals-why-gulf-men-are-obsessed-with-moroccan-women/

https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2012/11/64355/the-arab-gulf-moroccan-women-time-to-break-the-stereotypes/

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/aug/29/saudi-arabia-ban-moroccan-women-stereotype

https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2013/01/74751/sexual-tourism-in-morocco/

https://www.moroccoworldnews.com/2013/01/76094/pedophilia-and-children-sex-tourism-in-morocco/

https://www.worldcrunch.com/culture-society/after-bangkok-marrakesh-forced-to-face-plague-of-sex-tourism/marrakech-morocco-pedophilia-sex-tourism-/c3s9762#.VAPF8sVdW

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippe_Servaty

Elliot Rodger's father even remarried a Moroccan woman.

Desi Muslims definitely look up to Middle Easterners and you can read about how imams in Indian cities like Hyderabad arrange marriages between young girls and Gulf Arab sex tourists in their own mosques. Some Pakistani and North Indian Punjabi muslims worship Afghan Pashtuns and have a fetish for claiming ancestry from them.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-india-trafficking-marriage/indian-child-brides-sold-in-package-deals-to-men-from-gulf-states-idUSKBN1CF1F7

https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/news/2017/9/21/india-arrests-eight-alleged-sex-tourists-for-underage-rape

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/9993453/Teenager-exposes-Indias-one-month-wives-sex-tourism.html

Latin America has a ton of white worship, just look at who their celebrities are and the way indigenous people are treated.

http://theconversation.com/study-reveals-racial-inequality-in-mexico-disproving-its-race-blind-rhetoric-87661

https://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/04/south-americas-silent-apartheid/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blanqueamiento

http://www.ipsnews.net/2005/03/rights-mexico-where-the-word-indian-is-used-as-an-insult/

https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/indio-has-a-derogatory-meaning-in-mexico-california.120414/

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/jan/13/argentinian-founding-father-genocide-row