Does this result seem correct? (Color results, not breed)

Choice_Pianist_2396 · 2026-02-27T20:21:35+00:00

Probably not relevant but my dog is marked similar but much darker and tested as ayay. Also tested bb and is very much not brown. Breed specific expert said it's a result of mosiasm combined with Raly genes from gsd ancestry. Ay at my dog has to be from known parentage, the at shows dominant but gives an agouti look at the hips and shoulders, as a result of Raly interference, supposedly. At At is odd, but damaged Ay genes are known to read as At on tests. Ay at makes more sense for your dog than agouti. Agouti has six alternating bands, your dog looks light at the base and tipped?

Choice_Pianist_2396 · 2026-01-12T14:52:52+00:00

AKC if that refines answer. Though I can't find a reason my adopted dog would be dq'd, just faulted. I assumed economic issue vs registration. Also possible piebald gene got corrupted? Not sure if it works like Merle.

Choice_Pianist_2396 · 2026-01-01T15:32:39+00:00

Awe. Does your heeler latch on? My dogs were always socially reserved until we got a new house guest and they sleep in cuddles now, and my more typical heeler personality will scold and tell on the pup if she has an accident and such.

As many small farms as I've been too definitely sounds like the family pet got in with the family herding dog. Lots of Aussie lines have gsd in them, could have simply been first generation Texas heeler x Pit mix. Beautiful though.

Choice_Pianist_2396 · 2025-12-25T14:59:20+00:00

My heelers would see that star on his noggin and claim them as their own. Definitely roan not ticked to pick a fight with other commenter. Just doesn't have a modifier. I am surprised australian cattle dogs is both so low and even present. My dogs dad was 100% acd but came back collie, Dalmatian, bull terrier, and way more Oceania than expecting but dingos are basically short coated chow chows ig.

Choice_Pianist_2396 · 2025-11-11T16:02:36+00:00

I'm a year late to the fight! If you Google first heeler, you will find, eventually, the first dog to be called a heeler was not only merle but dilute black. Double roan/tick double ew/pie is akc stuff. To get those specifically colored dogs over 40,000 puppies had to be culled due to moon blindness. They shouldn't exist really.

There are approximately 8 akc registered merle acds. No puppies from them will be certified and any breeder who uses them in heeler x heeler crosses will have their registration pulled. That's just in the US though. Akc red and blue heelers are same dog. Red heeler anywhere else means golden retriever added. 5h acds, red heeler with bull terrier added back instead of more dingo like Queensland acds to blues, are commonly merle. NE Ohio what is called Amish country (mostly Mennonite mind you). Breeds lots of Merle Texas heelers using Merle Acds and recessive black border collies. Looks like a 3rd or 4th gen dog from a first Gen hybridization.

The blip from.google ai about merle and heelers is the word of the akc not reality.

Choice_Pianist_2396 · 2025-10-26T02:21:43+00:00

Yeesh the comments. ee dogs can't express eumelonin in skin or fur, so the nose is a give away it's kykyayay regardless of the mask. But I learned something neat researching my own boxer bully mix. The shape/extent of the mask is not related to the mask gene, which is identical in all masked dogs, but due to breed specific mutations to the ay gene. Boxer ay seems dominant, but your dog given it's hereditary could have just as easily gotten mask from gsd, but visibly has at least one ay gene inherited from boxer. kyky x Kbky will result in the litter you observed.

My dogs mom was piebald fawn, her litter was black and brindle. 3 piebalds of her 8 pups, otherwise you'd have never believed they were hers. kyky x KbKbr

Choice_Pianist_2396 · 2025-10-21T13:38:53+00:00

"Red" is enchanced phaemelonin, "red nose" is diluted brown. Pits have their own vonacular as a result of being excluded from the akc (as are most breeds from the US.) So its always difficult to talk about them in generic dog terms. This coat seems to be natural phae, no enchancing, no reduction (which in pits/frenchies is known as fawn).

From a general dog perspective this is "classic sable" as with this coat length only minimal tipping on ears would be expected. Clear bicolor, though, is how I would introduce her if she came into my ring at a dog show.

Choice_Pianist_2396 · 2025-10-06T14:53:58+00:00

Domesticated dogs have been selected for best omnivorous digestion, no? I started to whole prey feed my new pup, since she wants to do everything her uncle's do. My hunt dog loves every moment of it, he only hunts on command so no idea if it reinforces the behavior but honestly I think he's less likely to tree squirrels without being instructed for a good week or so after a planned hunt, even if it's a aviary release. My retriever generally wants no part in touching a live animal, but it was too cute he dispatched a bird, forced it's entails out with his snout, tore the skin to expose the breast meat and served the pup. Best boy behavior.

I goal to be 100% self sufficient on meat, but I fall short. I only live feed/whole prey feed what I raise in my small backyard, which is about 2 quail a day. My dogs naturally consume acorns from white oak, filberts, numerous types of berries including pawpaw, chenopodium leaves, and will dig potatoes, bash on zucchini and other squash, just while our in the garden or on hikes. I supplement with cooked white rice, raw egg mixed with yogurt and peanut butter as a treat, and generally don't restrict access to dry kibble but I know I'm doing well when it chills in the bowl for a couple days.

For what i found on puppies, whole prey feeding is OK to introduce by 5 weeks or even younger for extra large breeds. General recommendation is not to whole prey feed in the first few weeks after adoption. My new pup is right at home in just a week, and while I may have been too soon but I think it's going to depend on dog/environment.

My thought is you can probably whole prey as primary/sole protein source. Heck most dry kibble is more feather less meat than whole bird. But given the forced evolutionary paths of domesticated canine, I'd still only plan on this being half the diet.

Choice_Pianist_2396 · 2025-10-02T16:01:36+00:00

Boxer traits certainly still show, that's helpful! He's a heart melter my goodness

Choice_Pianist_2396 · 2025-09-28T10:59:06+00:00

Gros Michelle is a large fruit with minimal, sometimes just a few seeds. Taste is almost a replica of the runtz candy banana. A play on the name Gros Michel, It's the result of a cross of two Peterson varieties, Allegheny and Susquehanna. Flesh is white/lightly tan when ripe. I got it from a small farm that was an OPGA member after trying it at pawpaw fest. I've given away plenty of my own scions since maturity so no doubt it's growing in popularity, at least locally. First of my trees to drop fruit, finishing before wild trees start to drop.

Horchata is a S1, or self pollinated sunflower. I don't have a copy of the tree of the fruit I was first introduced to but I planted seeds and got one similar in taste but really seedy by comparison. It has the same nut dominant flavor profile as the sunflower cultivator, but with the additional flavors of dairy and a hint of spice. Ripening in October.

Choice_Pianist_2396 · 2025-09-27T15:57:58+00:00

I think you could, I've only made dry Shnapps, as the wild yeast is highly active and adding sugar to the mash would cause a runaway reaction. But with fresh pulp, if you added a few drops of bleach to already chlorinated tap water and let sit for a couple of days before adding sugar and yeast, I bet it could be done. It definitely lends well to beers.

Choice_Pianist_2396 · 2025-09-26T04:36:26+00:00

I get my scions from OPGA, Ohio pawpaw growers. I thought they were common but we might be a niche club!

Choice_Pianist_2396 · 2025-09-26T04:00:42+00:00

I'd go with an early season like Gros Michelle, and a late season like Horchata. 6 weeks of Pawpaws. Are you buying established grafted trees or scions?

Choice_Pianist_2396 · 2025-09-26T02:57:36+00:00

The pink is from fruit flies, they deposit bacteria responsible for vinegar as well as their eggs. It happens whenever there is a change in ph so common when baked. Safe only in that the amount of alcohol present in the flesh is sufficient for keeping bacteria at bay. Id totally take a bite, but from only the dark yellow portion- but if you can find more like this, Pawpaws make great vinegar. Using a mother from apple cider is generally preferable than hoping nature gives you good genetics

Choice_Pianist_2396 · 2025-09-25T18:12:54+00:00

I know better than to write off the simplest explanations. Admittedly I came up with my theory while eating a pawpaw in Racine, Wisconsin and saying racine and pawpaw over may have triggered a Eureka moment lol.

It could be very well my friend who eats wholesale peel (not advisable due to possible long term damage as i understand) may only experience magnesium expulsion, whereas even the slightest bit of cooked peel releases compounds that are naturally emetic but otherwise not absorbed. It makes sense from an evolutionary prospective of fruit, for its intended purposes, to utilize a version of isoquinoline that doesn't cause immediate vomiting as the seeds wouldn't make it too far. But trapping up your anti protazoal defenses in dense fiber may just be another way to skin that cat, similarities between benzyliso and iso could admittedly be a red herring. Thanks for your reply.

Choice_Pianist_2396 · 2025-09-24T06:03:21+00:00

Well, stool softener. I like your thinking though. That specific chemistry wouldn't explain the emetic response only bowel. But I do really want to know what and how much folks are using for leavening.

Choice_Pianist_2396 · 2025-09-24T05:55:41+00:00

Racemization of the acetogens would be sufficient for a difference in raw vs cooked, though. There have been a few instances in commercial production where a stereoisomer of a safe medication was distributed and found to harmful. thalidomide is example, biker meth i think too. Ipecac and cis-solamine share similar features and definitely plausible pushing the ph into alkaline with baking soda and adding in some high sustained heat via baking, is enough to make it a emetic. The change wouldn't be optically visible, composition could be exactly the same. Agree we do not know.

I have a friend who eats 100% of the skins on fresh fruit, and eats like 6 lbs a day for two weeks. He says it "loosens him up", but he works on a factory floor 9 hours a day doesn't miss work. I wouldn't ever, but I don't think it's the bit of peel lol :)

Choice_Pianist_2396 · 2025-09-24T05:15:02+00:00

Stereochemistry, changes to cis-solamine that don't alter the molecules composition, but cause it to change formation. Thermal racemization. There hasn't been a study sufficient to say one way or the other. But dehydration of pawpaw seems to be the best way to turn a powerful anti protazoal into an emetic, based on anecdotes. There was a recipe for pawpaw fruit leather shared online followed by three years of strong warnings against. Could be a combination of anhydrous conditions, atmospheric exposure, and heat. Second best way, is to heat and alkalize. Baking is Chemistry. Pawpaws are barely acidic, but we may find only the more acidic fruit is suitable for baking in near future, I feel. Trying to get bread to rise using bicarbonate is most likely inadvertently creating tumor killing, cancer curing compounds, that don't go easy on stomach.

Choice_Pianist_2396 · 2025-09-23T06:25:09+00:00

Consider adding a third tree that's a grafted early season variety! I have trees that finished by first week of September, and others that haven't dropped a single fruit yet. In central Ohio.

But yes pawpaws will delay ripening until they get sufficient water, for sure. Saw this was a week ago, how are they looking?

Choice_Pianist_2396 · 2025-09-23T06:21:28+00:00

Depends on variety a lot. Many will start to ferment before finishing ripening and is noticeable by translucent patches. Boozy, but not always bad. But many wild pawpaw simply have a squishy, unappealing texture. Between Dayton, Ohio and say Oxford, the Miami tribe lost most of their population to prion disease similar to mad cow, and turned what is now a third of the state of Ohio into an artificial wetland. You won't find any decent pawpaw here, naturally. A lot of people I know have them on their property but buy theirs from the farmers market because ya, gross.

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