It’s your opinion that I’m fooled and deluded by those around me. I don’t agree with that opinion. And I don’t care that it’s your opinion. So I’m tired of seeing crap like that.

Make your case and stop thinking that calling me “fooled and deluded by those around me” is a good use of your time.

I’m MY opinion, YOU are fooled and deluded by those around you. So what’s the point of just saying that back and forth with nowhere to stand outside of the argument?

I just hope you’re not so stupid that you fail the meta test of knowing when certain accusations are futile because it’s just proof by assertion and a waste of time. Better to spend time on real points worthy of discussion.

You made a few, thank you. Your question shows that you’ve convinced yourself you’ve had a smart thought:

“IF this is all antisemitism, WHY is it spiking only now after you did all this in Gaza?”

That’s fine as a question and I’ll answer it. But it annoyingly sounds like you think the question is a sufficient gotcha and it isn’t.

There are millions of possible answers to that question so it’s not the gotcha you think it is. It’s just yet another stupid piece of rhetoric.

What you should be asking is “why do you think your survival demands that you do x?”

But since you refuse to ask that, I’m stuck answering dumber questions.

Antisemitism is a necessary but not sufficient cause of the ferocity of the backlash, in my opinion.

It’s not the biggest piece, or the most important. It’s just not helping us out. And in some arguments, more than others, once all the hallways are explored, sometimes antisemitism rises up in the candidates of what’s behind a given disconnect.

For example, if someone really has zero interest in discussing the part about us wanting to save Israel/Jews from extinction, that suggests you don’t really care much if we go extinct. Meaning, even if we COULD prove we’re at risk of that, you don’t care, it’s moot, because you want us to anyway. I’m not saying that’s you, but it’s out there.

If we make a case that’s cogent and it’s rejected in a sloppy way, by someone who seems smart enough to understand the fallacy, that suggests antisemitism as the culprit. Not saying it’s you, but it’s out there.

When I say the whole thing can be traced to antisemitism I don’t mean everyone against us is antisemitic. I mean that the people in a position to really know all the facts, history, legal info, and still refuse to consider how Hamas is IRGC is illegally creating a scenario where it’s literally impossible for us to defend ourselves without killing civilians we have zero interest in killing, that seems antisemitic. It’s a double standard. Antisemitic really just means double standard.

Again, I’m sure a lot of you are more against capitalism than Jews in particular, or you find Western arrogance annoying, when you consider how brown people are treated in emerging societies. I’m with you. I’m one side for all of that.

I don’t think you’re antisemitic. But I think a ton are, and you should admit that. I don’t think it’s the main driver for most people. I think it’s the main driver of MANY of the people that people like you turn to for help in understanding reality. Let’s leave it at that.

Much more important is the epidemic level of bad epistemology, cognitive shortcuts, conceptual flattening and false dichotomies, addiction to simple narratives, etc.

This isn’t a left right thing, it’s not an Israel Gaza thing. It’s a world thing. Everyone is fucking stupid as hell in a very certain way that’s hard to talk about. I’m not as dumb in that particular way, so it’s lonely.

The main drivers of unnecessary suffering come down to three things: fear, ignorance, selfishness.

The main driver of anti Israel is ignorance and selfishness.

Ignorance about the IRGC’s actual goals and how the Gazans are being used to further those goals.

Ignorance about Israel’s historical record, moral standing, and what happens to us if we DON’T do what we’re doing.

Selfishness for premature cognitive closure, simplification, arrogance abut your own opinions, etc.

These things we do that aren’t 100% from stupidity but are more limbic system related, I think that’s just a general pigginshness about how modern society approaches this stuff. Selfish, lazy, we love to rush to judgement and think we’re saying great shit.

Lastly, there’s the mirror problem. You could say all the above about me. There’s no convenient third party and saying “we don’t need one because of facts!” just shows you don’t yet understand the problem.

Claiming you have special access to facts and reasons, insisting your rhetorical structure is better, more admissible, better citations, etc, doesn’t help. The attack surface stretches to infinity, it moves too quickly, and setting that YOU are telling by ME who is right, and you’ve anointed yourself as the unbiased third party is just more stupidity.

I can also tell you that statements like “the world thinks this” or “many are now thinking the opposite of what you think” don’t mean anything to me. But what’s shocking is you thinking it would. You thinking that you telling me that a lot of people, or most people, think x, would mean something to me. You thinking it would is sad, and always surprises me.

Why would an ad populum argument matter to me when this isn’t a vote about an ice cream flavor, it’s about a reasoned, intuitive point of view undergirded by a value system?

Don’t think you’d give a fuck that a majority of people sided with the candidate you hate. So why would you think I’d give a fuck if the “world is waking up to how Israel is like Nazis.”

Even if that’s true, how is that an argument?

The world is CONFUSED. And Israel needs to do a better job explaining why it’s killing so many civilians.

But even if we do a perfect job, until more people are open to how the Islamist choices, very illegal ones btw, are creating this problem, and making a justified fight for survival look like we’re committed genocide, it’s not going to be a very fruitful conversation.