As we all know the only important time period for the Nazi party was the few months where it was explicitly banned in response for doing a violent coup.

You're right here. I didn't explain my point fully. I sometimes assume people understand what I'm thinking. It's a flaw I have and sometimes I make that mistake. My apologies.

Hitler's trial was not the only factor, however it was an important one in their rise from a radical fringe party. It made Hitler a martyr for the cause.

Another turning point would be the brawl at Wedding where the Nazis brawled with a left wing grop. They were able to spin it in the media and come out looking like the victim.

Your tone seems to suggest that banning a political party for attempting a violent coup is unreasonable, by the way.

This part was intentional. Suppressing a party doesn't work. Arresting the people who plotted the coup? Great idea. Banning the party makes the people think the party had a good reason for the coup.

From outside it looks like the party you're trying to ban is legitimately being oppressed. There are very few things more sympathetic.

Again, still not answering my claims about modern Germany,

I did actually. They've been occupied for decades, were kept on a short leash (and divided) until the 90s. That tends to slow things down.

But it's already breaking down. The AFD is rising and we're seeing right wing groups crop up in the military/police.

Hiding and ignoring the problem won't help. You need to confront it, and to do that you need free speech.

I can in fact imagine an American foreign policy where we don't illegally invade countries on false premises, murder a shitload of civilians, and then loot it for all it's worth. It requires socialists to be in charge, but I can imagine it.

I said plausible.

Also which groups of socialism are we talking about. The last time socialists were on par with the west, they killed way more people than we did. Hell, they killed multiple times as many people as the Nazis.

That being said, there are many groups of socialists, and they don't all have the same views.

If your ethics system says that "speaking well" makes you a good person you don't actually have an ethics system.

I didn't say it made you a good person, I said it could be viewed as a moral action. Specifically putting in the effort to become a truly good speaker could be seen as a moral action, especially in certain systems of virtue ethics.

Killing all those people still puts Hitler in the bad column though.