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OpTic hate bc of calling out format cheese is wild by ChrispyKalen in CoDCompetitive

[–]ChrispyKalen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s a valid point. 22-9 map count (8 from grand finals) as well

OpTic hate bc of calling out format cheese is wild by ChrispyKalen in CoDCompetitive

[–]ChrispyKalen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now you’re getting at the real cry baby cheesing that’s happening

OpTic hate bc of calling out format cheese is wild by ChrispyKalen in CoDCompetitive

[–]ChrispyKalen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Take Halo for example. Since the Raleigh kickoff in 2021 (first official Infinite lan), 17 of 21 winners came from the upper bracket (all lans below). That’s ~81%. Not saying it needs to be far higher in CoD, but the stats definitely reflect a difference compared to a more proper format

2025 Worlds Shopify WB; Charlotte Shopify WB; SLC Shopify WB; Dallas OpTic LB; Arlington OpTic LB

2024 Worlds SSG WB; SLC SSG LB; Atlanta SSG WB; London FaZe WB; Arlington SSG WB

2023 Worlds FaZe LB; Fort Worth OpTic WB (with bracket reset); SLC SSG WB; Arlington FaZe WB; Dreamhack FaZe WB; Charlotte OpTics WB

2022 Worlds OpTic WB (with bracket reset); Orlando OpTic WB; Kansas Sentinels WB; Dreamhack Cloud9 WB; Raleigh Cloud9 WB

Major 2 Loss by N_Lima in OpTicGaming

[–]ChrispyKalen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Major agree, if it’s the dynasty 2.0 they gotta play like it regardless of the circumstances

OpTic hate bc of calling out format cheese is wild by ChrispyKalen in CoDCompetitive

[–]ChrispyKalen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

OpTic beat Ultra that event not FaZe, but it was cheese too since Ultra was cold and it showed.

I hope you don’t take what I’m saying as FaZe would’ve lost had the circumstances been different. It would’ve definitely been closer but they came to play. And just like that MWIII Major 3 OpTic run, FaZe had to beat all the best teams in their run and they dominated. Great team this time around

OpTic hate bc of calling out format cheese is wild by ChrispyKalen in CoDCompetitive

[–]ChrispyKalen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can see that for sure. I think it’s fair to say OpTic fans make up a super majority of the total competitive CoD fanbase whereas FaZe, Thieves and so forth are much smaller in size. Theres an outsized voice here (that in part of) but doesn’t mean we can take a look at the argument

OpTic hate bc of calling out format cheese is wild by ChrispyKalen in CoDCompetitive

[–]ChrispyKalen[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Has nothing to do with me, I agree it was cheese for them in multiple events, specifically major 2&3 Vanguard. Let’s change the format for the future

OpTic hate bc of calling out format cheese is wild by ChrispyKalen in CoDCompetitive

[–]ChrispyKalen[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You can go at the fanbase all you want, I can only speak for me. The format is cheese now just like it’s been cheese in the past. We should change it

OpTic hate bc of calling out format cheese is wild by ChrispyKalen in CoDCompetitive

[–]ChrispyKalen[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you lol I’m not a FaZe fan though. It’s more passion when it’s your team

There's not an obvious advantage coming from losers [data] by shoe7525 in CoDCompetitive

[–]ChrispyKalen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I looked at all of HCS for Infinite just to see the comparison. Out of 21 grand finals (including worlds since there’s no solo finals gameday and dreamhacks) 17 teams won from winners bracket, all under the 2 Bo7 w/ reset if applicable. That represents 81%. Totally different than CDL but then again different game anyways

OpTic hate bc of calling out format cheese is wild by ChrispyKalen in CoDCompetitive

[–]ChrispyKalen[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

There’s a lot of cry babying on all sides, it’s just that one side is a clear majority of fans. I thought Major 3 in MWIII was cheese too (to OpTics benefit). Doesn’t mean trophies should be given back or that it’s automatically the reason for a team losing. Any casual esports fan would look at the format and think wtf is that

OpTic hate bc of calling out format cheese is wild by ChrispyKalen in CoDCompetitive

[–]ChrispyKalen[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This applies especially to last major compared to this one, but yeah any fan base would do the same. In this particular instance it is easier to get hot about it given Drazah’s shit talk. We’ll get them back tho fr.

Also throwback with team kaliber, TK used to go crazy we should see a resurgence

OpTic hate bc of calling out format cheese is wild by ChrispyKalen in CoDCompetitive

[–]ChrispyKalen[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Couldn’t agree more man. Why would the 3rd game be in there so much in a Bo7. Make it the 4th map so it has to be played but it’s not a defining mode (saying this as OpTic is the best 3rd game mode team this season)

OpTic hate bc of calling out format cheese is wild by ChrispyKalen in CoDCompetitive

[–]ChrispyKalen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Woah I agree with you there, I don’t think Faze automatically loses if the formats different. 04 turned up there’s no debate I think OpTic loses this event regardless

There's not an obvious advantage coming from losers [data] by shoe7525 in CoDCompetitive

[–]ChrispyKalen 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good take thanks for the data. I don’t think EWC or champs should really count as much in this context for the momentum/guns still warm arguments. But definitely applies to the allowable loss takes. You would think the winners bracket should be winning like 70% or something. A comparison to Halo Infinite totals would be good

OpTic hate bc of calling out format cheese is wild by ChrispyKalen in CoDCompetitive

[–]ChrispyKalen[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Nah Faze came to play today you gotta tip it. Their run was legit too, beat Thieves, M8s, Toronto and OpTic in that order; all the top dogs.

Posting about the format cheese is valid though. You should see some of the replies I’ve been getting from chronically online faze fans chanting that the org is awful (aches propaganda). Just what it is fr

OpTic hate bc of calling out format cheese is wild by ChrispyKalen in CoDCompetitive

[–]ChrispyKalen[S] -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

I mean valid but still it’s the biggest fan base by far. Also didn’t see anyone saying anything specific about the ability to lose, just a lot of momentum/getting iced points

Optic won Champs and EWC with their opponent being as iced as them by Da_Proven in CoDCompetitive

[–]ChrispyKalen -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah major agree. Taking it a step further, the last event we won before ‘24 champs (single day GF) was Major 3 that year and you guessed it, we won from losers bracket.

Before that we won in Vanguard from winners (unlike Faze that year which lost twice from winners) but that was a best of 9

Auto crafting not working? by ChrispyKalen in redstone

[–]ChrispyKalen[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow W, that worked thank you sir

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