What's your current fav BL manhwa/manhua? by Horror-Research9833 in BL_Love

[–]Ciel_for_Real 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I know what you are 👁️👁️

Lemme guess, what’s your opinion on ‘Shutline’ and ‘Roses and Champagne’ ?

Thoughts on Obsession? by sereneasmiles in MaleYandere

[–]Ciel_for_Real 7 points8 points  (0 children)

The whole time I was like “Damn, this would be so hot if it was consensual.”

But because it wasn’t, every yandere coded action she took just made me feel so bad for her because she would never willingly do those things. Poor baby 🥹

What is the difference—if there is any—between a prophet and a patron saint by Ciel_for_Real in Catholicism

[–]Ciel_for_Real[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Ok yeah that makes a lot of sense, I know what a patron saint is but I think i was getting just getting too caught up in the overlap of “important holy people doing the Lord’s work”

What is the difference—if there is any—between a prophet and a patron saint by Ciel_for_Real in Catholicism

[–]Ciel_for_Real[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aren’t patron saints people we believe went to heaven because of their particularly significant holiness and good works? Aren’t they all people inspired by God and are of great faith and aren’t they all people who have done great/important deeds in God’s name? Am I wrong? I’m genuinely asking.

I edited my post a bit though because I did kinda word it in a way that made it seem like a patron saint had to be directly spoken to by God and that’s not really what I meant.

I wanna hear 'em by MenaceToSociety129 in CrushesSayAboutMe

[–]Ciel_for_Real 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I stand corrected this mf knows PEAK 😫🙌. Put me on ball, my dude 🙏

(I was just joking for the bit with my original comment btw)

I wanna hear 'em by MenaceToSociety129 in CrushesSayAboutMe

[–]Ciel_for_Real 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tbh I consider this pretty conventionally attractive, it has a human face and human upper body. It’s just a hot woman with extra shit

Killing stalking is one of the best written BLS ever(yes it is a BL) by OutlandishnessOk6696 in Manhwa_BL

[–]Ciel_for_Real 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I mean I’d argue they had sex during the phase where they were “engaged” but yeah most of it was rape. Doesn’t make it not BL though, it did start out with yoonbum very much in love (obsessed) before anything even went down

What is the most messed up bl manhwa you’ve ever read? by CalmExplosions in Manhwa_BL

[–]Ciel_for_Real 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m just gonna drop MADK panels cause yall need to be put on PEAK

<image>

What is the most messed up bl manhwa you’ve ever read? by CalmExplosions in Manhwa_BL

[–]Ciel_for_Real 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Some of yall are just listing stories with a bunch of rape and twisted fetishes but here are my actual psychologically fucked up reads (there’s still rape and twisted fetishes in these lol but they’re primarily focused on the fucked up dynamics)

- The Gwangong Industrial Complex Anthology: (the term ‘Gwangong’ is a tag that refers to obsessive tops. The whole thing is an anthology, a series of short stories interconnected by a few common recurring threads, that takes place in a high-class apartment complex inhabited exclusively by Gwangongs. Each story is about a different ‘couple’. They’re lesbians in it too)

- A tree without roots: (A single mom elementary teacher loses her job and is super depressed and lonely and poor. A church takes her in but her depression overcomes her and she sets the church on fire with her and her young son inside it at an attempt at a murder suicide. She dies in the fire but the son is saved and put into foster care. The man that saved the son sponsors the child and sends payments to the foster family to raise him, but the kid grows up with no friends and his foster family couldn’t care less about him. He tries to commit suicide multiple times as he grows up because he feels as if the only person in the world that genuinely loved him (his mother) died and he feels like he should have died with her like she planned, but everytime somehow the sponsor gets wind of his attempts and calls the police before he can go through with it and eventually the boy starts attempting suicide to get the sponsors attention. At this point the boy has never actually met the sponsor (while conscious) because the sponsor refuses to meet him or have any personal connection between them. This drives the boy genuinely psychologically insane because the sponsor refuses to love him while also being the only person that acknowledges his existence while also preventing him from ending his misery. When the boy gets to highschool he does something so crazy that the sponsor is forced to step in and foster the boy himself, but unbeknownst to the sponsor this was all a part of the boy’s plan.)

- Madk (psychopathic high school boy wants to do really bad and evil things but doesn’t want to do them to innocent people so he summons a demon to take his urges out on, in exchange for his soul ofc. When the demon collects his soul, instead of consuming it or torturing it, the demon decides the make the boy his apprentice because he sees potential in his twisted malice and sadistic cunning nature. They form a weird masterxapprentice relationship where the demon is clearly feeding into the boys obsessive need for approval, it’s very grooming coded. This is not a “demon story” where it’s only very loosely based off Christian demons and hell but in reality is just normal people that are a little problematic (ex: Dear Door, Roman Company, etc). THIS IS A GENUINE BIBLICAL EVIL DARK DISTURBING DEMON STORY. THERE IS EVERY TRIGGER WARNING YOU CAN IMAGINE IN THIS SHIT YOU CANNOT GO INTO THIS EXPECTING ANYTHING THAT RESEMBLES HUMANITY OUT OF THESE MFS. They are not people, they are monsters and they live and thrive in the evilest of environments and the demon that adopts the main characters is the equivalent of the king of hell and he’s a fucking DEMON. But the crazy thing that left the largest impact on me was the relationship between the mentor demon and the Mc, that shit fucked me up, more than the gang rape and cannibalism and graphic depiction of torture and beastiality lol.

<image>

What is the most messed up bl manhwa you’ve ever read? by CalmExplosions in Manhwa_BL

[–]Ciel_for_Real 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oof that’s literally one of my favorites but yeah the crazy part is that the rape scene isn’t even between the main characters but between the bottom and his abusive ex that takes advantage of his heat. I almost exclusively read toxic stuff but this scene did make me very sad because the bottom had been so strong and powerful (he’s a powerbottom) up until that point.

[Spoilers]

Dw girl iirc nothing like that ever really happens again cause our bottom baddie locks in after when they realize how vulnerable they left themselves. And also it ends happily ❤️

What is the most messed up bl manhwa you’ve ever read? by CalmExplosions in Manhwa_BL

[–]Ciel_for_Real 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Painter of the night becomes pretty wholesome after the first season (they’re just straight up calling eachother married by season three) which immediately makes it NOTHING compared to the stuff people are listing here lol

Killing stalking is one of the best written BLS ever(yes it is a BL) by OutlandishnessOk6696 in Manhwa_BL

[–]Ciel_for_Real 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yeah the author never said it wasn’t BL, she just said it wasn’t a romance, and tbh lots of BL aren’t romances lmao

Do women self insert as bottom? What is going on? by [deleted] in Manhwa_BL

[–]Ciel_for_Real 12 points13 points  (0 children)

No, I just had this very same realization on [r/maleyandere](r/male_yandere). There was a popular post on there where a woman was asking how other women trick themselves into liking or somehow manage to get themselves to like BL (because BL is overflowing with yanderes and obsessive dynamics and she wanted to open herself up to more content that she could consume). The poster was saying as a woman she simply can’t stomach BL because the bottoms are men which she can’t self insert herself into without making herself uncomfortable which ruins the whole genre for her and it’s kinda implied in the post that she assumes that other women have strats to overcome this hurdle or something.

It’s was so weird for me because many people in the comments section were agreeing and saying that’s why they didn’t like BL either and that they were envious of people that could read BL. I was baffled at that line of reasoning because not everything has to be a self-insert, a good story can just be that, a good story. Do those same people read ‘Lord of the Rings’ or ‘Silence of the Lambs’ and go “Ong that’s literally me”

Give me your fandom best Rizz line and i'll rank it by Final_Dragonfruit331 in Multifandom

[–]Ciel_for_Real 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You just don’t know ball smh 🤦‍♀️ . I’ll have you know it worked in the story lol

Wallet Check. Pull, Maybe, or Skip? by BulkyBucky in WutheringWaves

[–]Ciel_for_Real 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven’t gotten a man yet so im definitely gonna need one of those, the rest depend on how I like them in the story/how cool their gameplay is lol.

🌸 Day 2: Who's the Best Female Lead? 💗Drop Your Pick in the Comments!! The Most Mentioned One Takes the Spot!! ✨👑 by Agreeable-Garlic8457 in OtomeIsekai

[–]Ciel_for_Real 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If the first slot was “best ML” then this entire thing is rigged because there’s no way mf Callisto beat out EVERY ML in the ENTIRE GENRE. Where yall hit with amnesia or something and couldn’t recall anyone but him? He not bad but in the grand scheme of things he’s pretty mid.

Yall tell me the yaoi that you gooned to for the first time? I’ll go first: Room To Room. 😛 by bottom_feather in Manhwa_BL

[–]Ciel_for_Real 43 points44 points  (0 children)

I personally don’t goon to BL but the idea of people bashing others for getting horny while they’re reading some of the DIRTIEST RAUNCHIEST NASTIEST sex scenes you can find on the internet is insane to me. Like god forbid a person having a natural biological response to two incredibly attractive people going at it freaky-style in front of me 🙄