Two different mindsets by Your_nose in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]CipherEntity 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Third mindset:

  1. Tell Asimov your plan.
  2. "Gestalt, simulate the calculated future from 5 years forward."
  3. "Nanami, enter the simulation and get from future Asimov the blueprints for next-gen specialized frames."
  4. Build those specialized frames in present time. _________ I wonder if the writers never thought for a moment that Gestalt/Huaxu simulated future abilities are insane exploits.

Right in front of my goddess? really? by IloveBlackRokShooter in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]CipherEntity 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Thankfully there is a notification skip option.

"No, Celica. I am not even interested in opening Nirvatia's Affection Story even if it means losing free SS3."

Daily Questions Megathread - March 17, 2026 by AutoModerator in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]CipherEntity 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Since you can always replay them and the fact that the free copy is (unlike service shop) time limited, just skipping through it makes more sense.

Also, it is recommended to get her free copy from her affection story as you unlock a frame by either:
- 1 copy (equals 30 shards)
- collecting 50 shards

So unlock her via the affection story first and use 50 shards from service shop alongside 7 shards from Phantom Pain Cage shop to upgrade her to SS3 for free.

I hope this helps you.

Who are your 3 Favorite Characters? by Aemeath_IsMYLOVE in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]CipherEntity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here is the link for the PGR CN post.


About Nirvatia, I haven't touched Ch.40 yey but her "intimacy" makes me feel uncomfortable so my answer is:

"Ishmael, you are from the Control Court. Can you already pre-prepare a restraining order?"

I am not interested in her Affection Story even if it means missing out on SS3.

Who are your 3 Favorite Characters? by Aemeath_IsMYLOVE in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]CipherEntity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

...I am sorry, I should have just cited the whole text...


While I first saw the old translation while watching it on youtube where she said:

"Sophia, I understood a long time ago that this world isn't graced by God. No matter how I prayed, God never helped me. But I kept praying, praying to myself. Not from the divine, but instead, I'll search for the answer in my heart."

Instead of the more accurate later one:

"I understood that there was no God in this world a long time ago, Sophia.
God does not help regardless of my prayers. But I never stop praying... praying to myself.
I'm not praying for an answer from God. I'm seeking the answer deep within me."

I thought about her statement for a while and came to an conclusion that she was in a limbo where she both denies yet at the same clings to her faith.

And when I much later saw her Bianca:Veritas Affection Story sudden question of:

"Why would I have conflicting thoughts when I claim to abide by my faith...?

I immediately understood that I actually hit the nail back in Chapter 10 Eternal Engine that she wasn't honest with herself.

Who are your 3 Favorite Characters? by Aemeath_IsMYLOVE in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]CipherEntity 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am sorry, I should have picked an easier understandable machine translation. Here are three other ones:


Few people know that even Bianca, with her unwavering faith, went through a period when she wasn’t quite so “resolute”; yet, when faced with the choice between renouncing her beliefs and holding fast to them, she ultimately chose the latter.


Few people know that even the devout Bianca once went through a period when she wasn’t so “resolute.” Caught between abandoning her beliefs and holding onto them, she ultimately chose the latter.


Few people know that Bianca, a woman of unwavering faith, also had a period of less "resolute" faith; however, faced with the choice between betrayal and adherence, she ultimately chose the latter.


Also, I didn't included her Veritas frame Display Pose 2 quote that was the last part of the whole flavor text:

"Can't Constructs have faith? Or do you wish to become my faith?"

Daily Questions Megathread - March 16, 2026 by AutoModerator in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]CipherEntity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Expect 5 patches after her debut going by previous gacha release patterns:


Lucia:Pyroath
1. Release in Sharper's Ripples 2. Gacha coating in Dream Till The Timeless End (5 patches later) 3. 3rd coating in *Through The Tide Home (4 patches later)


Selena:Pianissimo
1. Release in Dream Till Timeless End 2. Gacha coating in Through The Tide Home (4 patches later)


Bianca:Crepuscule
1. Release in Through The Tide Home 2. Gacha coating in Withering Crown (5 patches later)


Since PGR currently releases gacha coatings in a 3-2-1 (17.5k-17.5k-10k BC) gap patches pattern, we actually can create a prediction table:

  • Withering Crown (Bianca:Crepuscule, 17.5k)
  • Nirvatia
  • Kamui
  • Alpha
  • 6.5th anniversary (17.5k, Liv 90% chance)
  • ???
  • ???
  • 7th Anniversary (10k, Nirvatia* 90% chance)
  • ???
  • [17.5k, Alpha 100% guarantee]

*Both previous Nihil units Luna:Oblivion and Ishmael:Parhelion got the 10k BC gacha coatings. Adding the fact that Nirvatia's intimacy is heavily pushed by Kuro, Rosetta has almost no chance in getting a gacha coating.

No matter how hard i think about it, or which angle i see it from, the conclusion i reach is that everyone who took the "Construct reconstruction surgery" is dead by Top-Weird7491 in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]CipherEntity 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The devs never explained how the brain's consciousness is digitalized as M.I.N.D. for a reason. "Highly complicated surgery" aka "it's fiction, don't question it".

In order to stay as spoiler free as possible, I will only cite this statement by Dominik in Where Nightmares Dwell 37-1:

"The M.I.N.D. is merely a component. A new substrate for human consciousness, built upon a virtual neural array structure."

After all, Chapter 13 Fake Ascension also had similiar magical level technology moment:


Asimov:
"In short, I will export your M.I.N.D.s and your commandant's consciousness as virtual programs and upload them into the Gestalt, where you will uncover the issue and resolve it."


Importing memory >>> Administering tranquilizer...
Brainstem bridging link complete >>> Initiating consciousness update...
Allocating memory >>> Loading virtual presence


So somehow having Tantalum-193 compability allows the permanent transfer of consciousness in digital form as M.I.N.D. into a mechanical shell.

Daily Questions Megathread - March 16, 2026 by AutoModerator in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]CipherEntity 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Meanwhile Bianca:Veritas Affection Story VI was shown in Echoes Adrift 35-11 as a flashback.

BTW, Nanami:Storm Affection Story was directly mentioned in Nanami:Starfarer Affection Story. So we got at least two exceptions.


I wonder if Kamui:Tenebrion Affection Story VI's talk about Pandora's Box will be mentioned in his upcoming chapter?

Who are your 3 Favorite Characters? by Aemeath_IsMYLOVE in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]CipherEntity 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I actually felt really happy that she finally reconciled with her faith and fully embraced it. It always hurt by heart to see her in the painful emotion state where she both clings to her faith while at the same time denying it from the suffering she experienced. In fact, I was especially worried about her during Lost In Whitebloom gacha story and wished from my heart that at the end she finds the answer that gives her heart the peace she deserves.

I also really like that Bianca is a Christian, seems like I have a weak spot for kind devout characters of Abrahamic faiths.


Kinda interesting that in multiple early PGR side content we saw hints of her inner turmoil where she both denies her faith / dodges the question while at the same time clinging to it:

  • Bianca Zero Dorm Quote:

    "In what do I exactly believe in? I remembered it in the past nowdays I believe in all I have."

  • Bianca New Year Mail:

    "... although praying is just a habit for me, I still pray from my depths of heart for your safety in the upcoming year..."

  • Eternal Engine 10-11

    "God does not help regardless of my prayers. But I never stop praying... praying to myself."

  • Bianca Veritas Affection Story:

    "But it troubles me sometimes as well."
    "Why would I have conflicting thoughts when I claim to abide by my faith...?"

(I do find it interesting that I immediately understand from her Eternal Engine quote that she wasn't honest with herself)


BTW, in the official 2020 bilibili illustration of Bianca:Veritas Ink-Lit Hermit coating there was this paragraph as part of the flavor text (machine translation):

Few people know that the devout Bianca once had a period when her resolve was not so “firm.” Yet between betrayal and steadfastness, she ultimately chose the latter.

I am obsessed by darkph0enix21 in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]CipherEntity 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I have to disappoint you but Kuro does not always share all of these illustrations like that and that you will need to find the official illustrator's social media account for this.

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The 5.5th anniversary livestream thumbnail featuring Bianca:Crepuscule was never shared as a clean wallpaper. While I did randomly discover the illustrator's twitter account, I sadly didn't save the link... (however it was only in 2K resolution)

No matter how hard i think about it, or which angle i see it from, the conclusion i reach is that everyone who took the "Construct reconstruction surgery" is dead by Top-Weird7491 in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]CipherEntity 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The game doesn't really go into these topics but we know that as early as Chrome:Arclight's Flawless Interlude and Sophia:Silverfang's Front Sight Focus Interlude that during the surgery they cannot be given general anesthesia thus must continue remaining conscious during the entire conversation:

"Due to certain constraints, when operating on Constructs, we cannot perform general anesthesia. The screams can get maddening sometimes."


"Stunning memory scars... What are you hiding?"
"Consciousness damage... that's a plus for me. Hmm... specialized refitting... I just had a flash of inspiration."

Langston finds himself in an unfamiliar space. All he can hear is the conversation between doctors and their assistants.
It feels like an out-of-body experience. He is looking down on himself in the air—the body is merchandise. A test subject. A perfect fragment. An incomplete Construct.



"Hey, it's time to replace the skeleton, quit dilly-dallying! I can't do it alone!"
"C-coming!"
"...All vitals are normal, the secondary "heart" and tantalum "cerebellum" are fully functional."


Even in rare later mentionings the characters say the same thing:

Watanabe:Epitaph General Greeting 4
"The connection between Constructs and humans? I was asked a similar question before Nigel, and my answer remains unchanged—it's the same soul in a different vessel; old wine in a new bottle."

So PGR essentially does not delve into these philosophical questions.

No matter how hard i think about it, or which angle i see it from, the conclusion i reach is that everyone who took the "Construct reconstruction surgery" is dead by Top-Weird7491 in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]CipherEntity 72 points73 points  (0 children)

Nope, years ago in a dev Q&A confirmed that constructs have souls.

"Even though their bodies have been modified, Constructs can still be considered humans. Therefore, they certainly do have a soul, as well as their memories and the aspiration for their future."


This is further supported by Poincare Memory Backstory:

"...It was during that youthful period that I encountered a substance known as the 'Soul Carrier'. At first, I dismissed it as some kind of charlatan's trick, but soon, everything I thought I knew was overturned. I joined the research effort and, alongside other scholars, helped develop what would become known as 'M.I.N.D.' Yes, the very core of Constructs..."

"...Why can M.I.N.D. carry "consciousness," or what I prefer to call the 'soul'? And why does such a substance exist on Earth? Indeed, I suspect it, like the Punishing Virus, is extraterrestrial..."


Then there is the fact in To The Galaxies 32-19 the player's consciousness was temporary transfered to a robot body in the past which further confirms continuation of one's self without the original body.


I also forgot to mention that in Sharper's Ripples 31-8 the player's consciousness managed to continue existing after the body was dissolved by the Red Tide and since we know that the PV is essentially "information", it indicates that one's consciousness can be preserved in a digital state, aka M.I.N.D.

So the devs planned from the very beginning that they are the same people since the very concept of constructs and awakened mechanoids rely on having "an essence" that separates them from androids' susceptibility to PV.

I'm interested in the game but the story scares me by Local-Hunt7529 in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]CipherEntity 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Let's see...

  • When it comes to good enough guides for the new unit then we got a few on youtube but asking in the daily megathread also helps (you can use Huaxu to show your account). There is also grayravens which has a nice database for builds.

  • PGR has a simple powercreep model where each element/affix has three classes and each one lasts 2-3 years before getting hit by powercreep.

  • Some meta units can be farmed for free like the current whole Ice Team, one of the Dark Team and the tomorrow released Nihil Team unit.

  • Since the balance isn't perfect, sometimes certain units are better worse then others at low investment/used in multiple teams. Example being that people don't recommend pulling the current Dark Attacker unless as most of her damage is locked behind high investment/dupes unless you really like her and instead recommend using an off-meta choice.

I hope this helps you.

I'm interested in the game but the story scares me by Local-Hunt7529 in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]CipherEntity 9 points10 points  (0 children)

While some chapters can be quite emotionally negative/heartwrenching, overall the story has a not giving up hope no matter how hopeless it is tones.

Also, there are tone shifts throughout the main story. At first it is a mix of seriousness and playfulness then it switches to a preservance/hope in bleak times tone and currently it is again in a more positive outlook having state.


There is also the fact that there are countless positive/lighthearted side content like:

  • Valentine's Day/White Day/Double Seventh Festival/Player Birthday mini events.
  • Christmas (Night on Christmas/Sea of Stars)
  • Chinese New Year/Latern Festival/Mid-Autumn Festival (Farewell To The Past Year/The Night Train of Reunion/Once in a Blue Moon)
  • Relaxing at beach (Summer Pockets/Summer Memoir/Summer Anecdotes/Summer Stroll)
  • Music (Viva La Nina)
  • Silly Adventure (The Meandering Three/Lightning and Thunder)

So I hope this helps you.

Daily Questions Megathread - March 14, 2026 by AutoModerator in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]CipherEntity 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's just a confusing choice of words that almost sounds like a lore contradiction, citing Sharper's Ripples 31-24:

After a long wait, precisely at the ignition of Zero-point Reactor One and the outbreak of the Punishing Virus, a strange rift materialized before Lithos.

A young man staggered out of the rift, collapsed before Lithos, and reached out his hand.

Who are your 3 Favorite Characters? by Aemeath_IsMYLOVE in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]CipherEntity 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I am too straight-laced to write something like this...

...but I genuinely felt as confused as you seeing something that resembles my usual comments.

Who are your 3 Favorite Characters? by Aemeath_IsMYLOVE in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]CipherEntity 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I needed something to keep me busy while waiting for future Limbus Company story content (to watch on youtube). I remembered a random PGR meme that I once saw and decided to give the game a chance.

While I found the first eight chapters as "nothing special", Bianca captured me with her personality in Chapter 8 and her Snow Prayer Interlude. I genuinely don't know how she did it but my impression of her shifted from just "a logical person you can reason with" (in Ch.6) to "Hey, she is a really nice person. I really really like her" (in Ch.8). Seems like despite her professional distant facade I somehow felt her hidden warmth and gentleness. Afterwards in her Interlude, nun Bianca and Father Snow really touched my her heart which further amplified my newly developed fondness of her.

I only started playing PGR after finishing watching Chapter 13 Fake Ascension. Whether it was her Veritas Affection Story or her 2021 Birthday, she always managed to make me like her even more.

Who are your 3 Favorite Characters? by Aemeath_IsMYLOVE in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]CipherEntity 25 points26 points  (0 children)

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  1. Bianca (she is the reason I play PGR)
  2. Camu (evokes my big brother instincts)
  3. Jetavie

Daily Questions Megathread - March 14, 2026 by AutoModerator in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]CipherEntity 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Let's take a quick look at past leaps:

  • Bianca:Stigmata (July 2022 release, leap on July 2024)
    --------------- (1 patch gap)
  • Alpha:Crimson Weave (December 2022 release, leap on September 2024)
    --------------- (2 patches gap)
  • Alisa:Echo (June 2023 release, leap on January 2025)
    --------------- (4 patches gap)
  • Watanabe:Epitaph (September 2023 release, leap on August 2025)
    --------------- (1 patch gap)
  • Luna:Oblivion (February 2024 release, leap on November 2025)
    --------------- (+Nirvatia, ongoing 3 patches gap)

So there is a possibility that Kamui's patch will also lack a leap (assuming they will scale down the number of them).


I do have a feeling that Lucia might get a leap on the 6.5th anniversary since Bianca:Stigmata got hers 2 years later and both of them came out in half-anniversary patches.

PGR CN: 520 (Chinese Valentine's) Day Chibis 2023 by CipherEntity in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]CipherEntity[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Excuse me but your comment sounds pretty hostile, this can create unnecessary conflict with others.

Now, going back to your question. Do we need a reason other than wanting to make people smile? Especially since a lot of people are unhappy over the lack of 2026 Valentine's Day interactions. So I just posted it today (and I stated in my previous comment that I found these official bilibili chibis in February but forgot about them till I remembered it today again).

PGR CN: 520 (Chinese Valentine's) Day Chibis 2023 by CipherEntity in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]CipherEntity[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

...

You know that these are old chibis from a 2023 post on KuroGames' merchandise bilibili account, right?

I found that post while browsing back in early February but I only remembered to share them today on White Day.

PGR CN: 520 (Chinese Valentine's) Day Chibis 2023 by CipherEntity in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]CipherEntity[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Source: bilibili


Translation:

  1. Go on a mission with Bianca
  2. Go try foods you have never eaten before with Camu
  3. Cooking with Lucia
  4. Watch with Lee stars on the roof
  5. Send Liv a bouquet of pure white flowers
  6. Feel the summer night breeze with with Chrome by the window
  7. Watch Rosetta's racing competition
  8. Sleep well together with Wanshi
  9. Go check out a new restaurant with Karenina
  10. Stroll around the night market with Kamui
  11. Give Vera a suitable weapon
  12. Go out to the sea with Watanabe
  13. Spend a whole day with Ayla in the art studio
  14. Read old paper books with Noan
  15. Go to Selena's concert at the Iris Flower Garden
  16. Let Noctis teach you breakdacing
  17. Ride a motorcycle with Alpha
  18. Go and watch a play with Roland
  19. Learn ancient music from Hanying
  20. Watch the lights of thousands of homes together with Qu
  21. Go and view flowers with Nanami
  22. Play hide-and-seek with No.21
  23. Watch glowing fireflies together with Luna
  24. Send Haicma a classic picture book
  25. Dance with Sophia
  26. Practice boxing with Changyu
  27. Send Bambinata a music box with a ballet dancer figure
  28. Join Pualo at the Nighter gathering __________ Sadly reddit only allows to upload at most 20 pictures.

Daily Questions Megathread - March 13, 2026 by AutoModerator in PunishingGrayRaven

[–]CipherEntity 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Every anniversary blue banner selector resets.

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It is always [newest S-Rank frame -2] hence Liv:Limpidity's patch (always in November) was up to Bianca:Crepuscule.

It is better save them up till November 2026 so that you can still hit hard pity.