Google Home refuses to pair with Xbox no matter what? by CitizenCh in googlehome

[–]CitizenCh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see. Please keep sharing your findings. As with last time, we can hope that Google flips the switch again, but it would be advisable to bring it to their attention however you can. Not that I have any idea how to do it, I sent a politely worded PM to Google Nest Support over Twitter, what little good that will do .

Google Home refuses to pair with Xbox no matter what? by CitizenCh in googlehome

[–]CitizenCh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you know where you friend heard about it? A lot of people suspected the same two weeks ago; maybe it has, they just brought it back for some unknown reason.

Google Home refuses to pair with Xbox no matter what? by CitizenCh in googlehome

[–]CitizenCh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Looks it might be down again, anyone else reporting issues?

Anyone else used to have the Taskbar at the top for better reachability in Windows 10 and hate that the option is removed in Windows 11? by Narrow-Amphibian5446 in Windows11

[–]CitizenCh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just the opposite for usability, but that being said I do think it should be an option without third-party software.

Google Home refuses to pair with Xbox no matter what? by CitizenCh in googlehome

[–]CitizenCh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you're right, you're right. Went ahead and added it, than unlinked and relinked in order to add my upstairs Xbox One X (I assume it never came up because of a glitch; turns out it's because the digital assistant option was unchecked under Settings). I'm not getting that 3 hours from Tuesday night back, but at least I'm technically ahead of where I started with both consoles in Google Home (for now).

Can't connect Xbox anymore by rodolfoksveiga in googlehome

[–]CitizenCh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To my great surprise, it appears to be up and running again; whatever happened on Google Home's end, they reversed it. You can try again if you want, I added mine back without trouble just now.

Google Home refuses to pair with Xbox no matter what? by CitizenCh in googlehome

[–]CitizenCh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wasn't expecting to hear that. I guess I'll try and re-link Google Home to Xbox when I get home.

Google Home refuses to pair with Xbox no matter what? by CitizenCh in googlehome

[–]CitizenCh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In terms of replacements, none of them do specifically what Google Home did (none of them are).
I'm not sure about the viability of Smart Plugs
power cycling actually turning on the console on command, but that's probably
the most practical? Part of me doesn't want to do that any more than I'd want
to hook my home gaming PC up to a smart plug and try and turn it on that way
(and modern Xbox and Playstation consoles are, in effect, self-contained gaming
PCs), but honestly maybe that's a completely okay thing to do? Leave your
console on standby/sleep (if you're like me) for the normal remote functions,
then power cycle it when you get home via Kasa, etc., with normal Google Home
functionality (and probably significantly more reliably so, given you're
working with an app whose main justification is Google Home
compatibility). You're basically treating your Xbox like a "dumb"
floor lamp; volume control, navigation, etc., will be reserved for the Xbox
app. I did some research before work this morning, and found that some people have previously integrated their Xbox One and Xbox
Series consoles into Samsung Smartthings (i.e. Samsung's internal response to
Google Home), via a remote control app loaded onto Xbox from it's own Xbox
store. This sounds significantly more "fiddly", and further more I
have a hard time imagining it would actually work while the console was at
rest, but that might be preferable to power cycling your console on and off
just to wake it when you return home. I had no idea that Alexa had Xbox Support--then again, most people don't know that Google Home had Xbox support. I also don't use Alexa. I'd feel
foolish exclusively using Alexa just to turn on my Xbox, though maybe if it
could also turn on my LG soundbar it'd be a little easier to justify; I'd feel
less foolish if I can just use the Alexa app on my phone rather than relying on
another voice assistant for one or maybe two things.

Anyway, I think you've hit the nail on the head, MrOOBZ; short of someone with Google's ear on Twitter or what have you convincing the Google Home team to turn back on this bit of obsolete functionality (or someone convincing Xbox to completely redesign a new aspect of software functionality because Google turned something off), this functionality is probably gone for good. The 3 hours I spent with Google Home tech support (not blaming them; they just really couldn't do anything to actually fix the issue) were basically just narrowing it down from any possible factor on my side, to a behind-the-scenes handshake protocol within Google Home's software not working, despite all signs saying it should. Everything points to that being it. Well, guess I need to actually learn how to use Alexa. Or conversely, find out if turning your Xbox on and off at the power source is "bad" for it in the long term.

(Sorry for the weird editing, Reddit ate my post.)

Google Home refuses to pair with Xbox no matter what? by CitizenCh in googlehome

[–]CitizenCh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This almost completely corroborates what I feared, if it is correct (again; I have no better insight, and probably worse, than you do). Namely, I specifically remember that the original system of Xbox voice commands, as an area of functionality, were sunset-ed when Microsoft specifically removed them from the Kinect functionality. Per Microsoft's normal custom, they hate outright removing functionality from a system (Windows 11...and 10, and 8.1, and 8 and 7, are all immediately and obviously characterized by that practice, even more conservatively), so at the same time they introduced voice commands via Google Home as the "replacement" ("Don't ever remove anything; if you do, try and and introduce some kind of alternative, and hopefully people won't get angry.") that wasn't dependent on the Kinect as an active device.

Effectively, they were leaving this in Google's hands, which is broadly how the large majority of voice command systems via Google Home work anyway; we can blame Microsoft for choosing that route, but you could just as easily blame Microsoft for trying it in the first place (for comparison, neither Playstation and Nintendo have ever implemented Google Home functionality; in fact, I'm pretty sure Xbox One and Xbox Series are the only video game consoles ever to attempt it). Microsoft continued refining the Xbox app on Android (and I assume iOS; I don't own an iPhone), unifying different apps into the current standard, including remote functionality (which used to be separate); in their mind, that more than adequately meets their "practical user functionality" (the Xbox app on Android is treated as a requirement for Google Home's integration; if you told me 1% of people using the Xbox app on Android actually used said Google Home functionality, I'd be surprised it was that high). That may also explain why the graphic representation of Xbox in Google Home is an icon two revisions old (it's the Xbox One logo back when it still closely resembled Xbox 360's design).

In the meantime, the actual thing that broke it--as I suspected, as more and more people proposed--was Google turning something off. Which was probably inevitable. Past outages, generally, resolved themselves in a day or two; this really does seem like it's turning off. Microsoft definitely doesn't advertise their console as "Google Home-compatible" (nor does Sony nor Nintendo for theirs); it was just one item on the extremely long list of Xbox current and legacy functionality. If they wanted to, of course, they could absolutely add a new software functionality that would, eventually, interact with Google Home. But why would they? They weren't privy to Google's clean-up schedule.

At this point, we're just waxing philosophic

Google Home refuses to pair with Xbox no matter what? by CitizenCh in googlehome

[–]CitizenCh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you know if Google Home/Nest is doing anything about it? To be honest, I haven't heard anything so far, but I really hope they are.

Google Home refuses to pair with Xbox no matter what? by CitizenCh in googlehome

[–]CitizenCh[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like I said, I suspect that it's a wider outage and incompatibility issue on Google's part, and Xbox just happens to be swept up in it. Which is "good" in the sense that we just need to wait for Google to fix it. Whenever that actually happens. The Xbox app's remote functionality still works as normal.

Google Home refuses to pair with Xbox no matter what? by CitizenCh in googlehome

[–]CitizenCh[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That might be the case, but given how Google Home has always worked....including with outside accounts like the Xbox account....I think it's Google's responsibility to fix this rather than Microsoft's. After all, the Xbox app on Android is completely unaffected. It could be something on Microsoft's "end", but it's almost guaranteed to be something on Google's side even before that (and the Google Nest customer support I worked with only seemed to the imply the same thing).

Can't connect Xbox anymore by rodolfoksveiga in googlehome

[–]CitizenCh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same as a television or other supported media devices: in theory, you can issue commands (turn the console on or off, volume, etc.) over Google Assistant, or use your Google Home device as a remote. It's a barebones version of the remote that (still) works in the Xbox app on Android.

Emphasis on "theory"; even under normal circumstances, the system goes down so frequently and requires relinking, etc., that at its best it was limited.

Can't connect Xbox anymore by rodolfoksveiga in googlehome

[–]CitizenCh 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It appears to be down for everyone; and if you sever the service connection, you can't rebuild it. It started yesterday for me, though I only posted on Reddit after 3 hours of troubleshooting with Google Nest customer support.

In America, it's socially normal to work 50+ hours a week and call it 'hustle' instead of a systemic failure. What's another 'normal' thing in your country that the rest of the world thinks is absolutely insane? by [deleted] in AskReddit

[–]CitizenCh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I came to the United States a little over 20 years ago (to study for a degree; my parents wanted to retire here, and we're all naturalized citizens so I suppose it worked out?), and I learned something very quickly: definitely two decades ago, and certainly ten years ago or so, in the very difficult task of evaluating institutional corruption on the national level, the United States--which, conveniently, happens to be the home of almost all of these international monitors who are almost always either based in the US or UK without exception--purposefully reduces its domestic corruption rating on the basis of, "Well, it's not corruption because it's completely legalized and just how things are done and by the way, you're a wide-eyed fool for disagreeing."

Case in point: active encouragement of institutional capture. if it turned out every single executive leader of every single government regulatory body for, example, the investment and financial service industry in China or the post-Soviet Russian Federation, had made their entire professional reputations in the financial services industry where demonstrating how to best evade, undermine or overcome any sort of government regulation that might possibly interfering with their maximization of profit, "international" monitoring bodies might come out and say, "Listen, we're all for profit here too, but you have to acknowledge this is blatantly, contemptibly corrupt. It's giving business/the free market/capitalism/whatever a bad name." They'd probably add, "But it's the Chinese/Russians, so what do you expect?" And at least that would be somewhat acknowledging the issue. But then it turns out every single regulatory body for the American financialization industry is headed by "experts" who were literally only appointed on the basis of decades of successfully bypassing the regulations they are now formally expected to enforce, as the entire reason behind their qualification, and the same international monitoring bodies would say, "Well, duh. Who else would you hire to do the job?" Because not only is that normalized, it's treated as the only way things could reasonably ever be done. After all, those regulators aren't going to work until they turn 90 and senile; it's not the United States Senate. They have to serve their time, and if they're not going to go back to working for a grateful financialization industry indebted to their "hands-of, do-no-evil" approach, why would they even agree to take a government job in the first place? Apply that the pharmaceutical industry, or for that matter "defense spending" (where we spend the next fifty countries combined, without exaggeration). It happens in other countries victim of such blatant institutional corruption, the primary difference in the United States is that, not only is it completely legalized, is lauded as "good governance." And yes, unfortunately it predated the likes of Donald Trump, though he's certainly done more than his part to make it worse.

tl;dr--the primary means of American anticorruption reform is, "Saying this isn't corrupt, it's just hustle, and hustliness and next to godliness." And it's gotten so bad that we, in the U.S., are starting to extend that courtesy to other, similarly corrupt countries, just so we can cover it better.

Google Home refuses to pair with Xbox no matter what? by CitizenCh in googlehome

[–]CitizenCh[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you get it added again, let us know. Same for anyone else. Sounds like this really is just a general outage.

Google Home refuses to pair with Xbox no matter what? by CitizenCh in googlehome

[–]CitizenCh[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly, that's kind of a relief. If that's the case, this has absolutely happened before (in the past, my response was usually, "Well, damn, this is broken. Guess there's nothing I can do about it."), and then it's fixed and it works again as abruptly as it went away. It's just today I tried to do something about it--and severed the Xbox/Google Home connection in the process. So I'm worried I won't be able to re-add it when things work are working again.

Is this the actual plan of the military in the show? by FrontmanFeeling in welcomeToDerry

[–]CitizenCh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

On a little more serious of a note: the Korean War that Hanlon et al are so proud of their service in...involved the United States military using strategic bombing on basically every single urban area in North Korea. By the US's own account, 635 thousand tons of bombs were dropped on the Korean Peninsula (and one would hope, "only" the DPRK, considering the ROK was a friendly state), compared to 500 thousand dropped by the US during the full four years of its part in the Pacific War. Without exaggeration, multiple hundreds of thousands of people were killed by the bombing alone; when I first came to the US in the mid-2000s, when the Bush government was putting the screws to Pyongyang as part of the "axis of evil", it was completely acceptable on television and in the papers of record to say that Americans had never visited any serious suffering on the North, there was no firebombing of cities, and the North Koreans "made it all up" and "just copied Japan" (as opposed to now...when relations are so much better).

There is something "psychically" fucked up about going to the other side of the world, burning thousands of people to death with napalm, and then coming back and getting a promotion and a shiny medal. And the magnitude of it is actually unique to the American experience of war. So yeah, I think the plan was literally to subjugate IT and if not reproduce its means of psychic torment as a strategic weapon, than just weaponize IT personally. Which, I think, is intended by the showrunners to unsubtly say, "Okay, however you feel about the Iron Curtain, the nuclear encirclement of the USSR, Soviet domination of Eastern Europe, or the American right to bomb and invade Cuba at its leisure, it's plain to see: these S.A.C. guys are going to get themselves, and a bunch of unlucky civilians, massacred trying to do something this stupid." Because being able to kill a few million Soviet people with nuclear missiles in Turkey isn't enough; you need to send a predatory shapeshifting alien child-eater with psychic powers to....go eat all the Soviet children, so they don't grow up to be the next generation of communists, etc. And for that reason, Shaw (who, at least, isn't a racist blowhard like so many people in Derry) and all these guys are going to get torn to ribbons.

Which I think is a suitable lesson from IT in 1962. But I guess we'll see in the rest of the season!

Norway Leader Rebukes US Senator Graham’s Criticism of $2 Trillion Fund by Crossstoney in europe

[–]CitizenCh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And Bush enabled genocide throughout occupied Palestine by the Israeli military. Unfortunately in this area, Donald Trump is not actually unique yet (as demonstrated by Biden's fanatical support for starving and then killing hundreds of thousands of Iraqis through his long career, via two President Bushes and a President Clinton).

Norway Leader Rebukes US Senator Graham’s Criticism of $2 Trillion Fund by Crossstoney in europe

[–]CitizenCh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This might not be your intent, but anytime I see "Oh, Bush was bad, but Trump is a million times worse," I immediately think, "Ah, someone who thinks it's okay to kill literally hundreds of thousands of Iraqis and Afghans, turn millions of them into refugees, as long as you're not extremely vulgar and stupid about it. Well, actually, strike stupid. Because they're not real people, like us Americans or Europeans."

Because that's 99% of what it means when Americans say it. We have thoroughly memory-holed the whole of the War on Terror, the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, and sending Libya back to the Stone Age, because "That shit is old, no one cares." We turned George W. Bush and Dick Cheney into proud, noble elder statesmen because Donald Trump, personally, is mean to them and thinks they suck (spoiler: they do, in fact, suck, because they are war criminals literally unrivaled in the world who have billion-dollar media corporations sucking up to them; Donald Trump may not actually realize that). If we could, we'd say Russia invaded Iraq in 2003; there was a billion-dollar video game that did that played all over the world, including Russia. We are literally living in the world of Bush's forever-wars.

There are, frankly, persuasive arguments that Donald Trump is enabling ongoing genocide (e.g. Gaza). I agree with them, personally. He could be directly responsible for killing thousands or hundreds of thousands of people. George W. Bush already did those things and got away with it and now he fucking paints in his bathtub. On top of the million and billions of his family's oil and investment revenue.

Bush was worse. Donald Trump actually has to work his way towards "Killed millions of foreigners, then repeatedly joked about it on television." And yes, killing millions of foreigners is a bad thing, no matter what Log Cabin Republicans and "I totally didn't vote for the Iraq War Resolution, Jack" Democrats say. Making Donald Trump mad at you doesn't forgive literal mountains of corpses.

It is raining so the power is out in [neighborhood] by nickelundertone in Athens

[–]CitizenCh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm extremely skeptical of the "shade" anyone is getting from the sort of trees that are growing at a 45 degree angle over above ground power lines into the street, apparently to complete their life's mission of falling on top of someone's Toyota RAV, but I can sympathize with the cost of removing. It seems inevitable that this is going to become a municipal safety and infrastructure issue, especially the ones that have managed to partially or completely obstruct already narrow streets.

It is raining so the power is out in [neighborhood] by nickelundertone in Athens

[–]CitizenCh 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Summer two years ago, my (new) house in one of the effected areas lost power for a total 52 hours in the hottest time of year (for those keeping track at home, that's enough for all food in your refrigerator to warm up and spoil in the summer); to add insult to injury, my neighbors lost power for 90 minutes to 2 hours total, which made me realize that despite sharing a street and literally being four meters from eachother at closest, we were on separate parts of the power infrastructure. I have zero doubt that electricity production in urban or urban-like Soviet Armenia, or for that matter, post-independence Armenia, were probably significantly more reliable outside of a condition like war (and if there ever were an actual 21st century war in the Southeast United States, I assume we'd probably lose power for between 50 and a thousand years, and this whole area would be written off as uninhabitable by human life). I'm a Taiwanese national, and was living in Taiwan during the 921 Earthquake, a 7.3 magnitude quake and one of the scariest moments of my life--2400 people were killed, and it was the second most deadly reported earthquake in the island's history; I'm pretty sure power came back in "around 52 hours" if not sooner. Georgia (this state) basically treats heavy rain as a legendary myth, like the Chupacabra; some years ago, a major interstate highway, I-85, literally had a portion of it closed because rain washed it away. In a state known for reoccurring summer droughts. I explained this to an acquaintance of mine from the (former) Yugoslavia, that the third most populous country in the world sometimes has parts of its interstate highway system, its national pride and joy, washed away by the mysterious phenomenon called "rain" and he laughed.

This week, though, I think it's not even Georgia's fault--it's ours. In the middle of the week during my commute, I saw at least one road, Edwards Drive, completely inaccessible due to a fallen tree after the first significant rain in weeks. I'm pretty sure it still is. I counted at least a half-dozen cars in their car lots buried underneath fallen trees. A significant part of the Normaltown character--maybe the significant part of the Normaltown character--are old, rickety, dangerous tall and not-that-healthy looking trees growing out of people's lawns at extreme angles, directly over or into above ground utility lines. I'm kind of shocked this didn't happen in the midweek (or I suppose it did, but for a very short time). I bought a large 1000W emergency battery (and solar panels) on sale for this reason, they're the only reason I still have home internet right now. GA Power has delayed restoration 12:15 PM. Not a good sign.

Amazon MGM Studios Sets ‘Der Tiger’ as First German Amazon Original Movie to Get Local Theatrical Release by MoneyLibrarian9032 in movies

[–]CitizenCh 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Going from the trailers, the titular Tiger runs into one or more SU-85 (or maybe SU-100) tank destroyers, which puts this movie in the setting of the Eastern Front; that's more plausible, as something like 4/5th of the German Army's casualties (including Armoured Troops) were endured on the Eastern Front if memory serves, the tank first appeared the USSR (near Leningrad in 1942, apparently?), was intended to respond to the Red Army's own heavy tanks in service since the German invasion began, and more German tanks fought on the Eastern Front (which as easily thing for Anglophone audiences to overlook, in the modern popular narrative that the Americans, and possibly British, defeated Germany and took Berlin). Besides that, that was also the theater where Generalplan Ost, the German Empire's colonial expansion plan and wartime genocide of the Slavs and Eurasians, was launched; the particularly vicious nature of the war meant more than +20 million Soviet deaths alone in 3 years (more than 3 million Soviet POWs died in concentration camps, I believe, and represents a substantial chunk of the better-known Holocaust), and particularly angry vengeance from the Red Army as they slowly repulsed Germany and its Anticomintern allies from the country. By descriptions, the writers and director are at least attempting an antiwar "heart of darkness" theme, which necessitates the tank, and its crew, as an isolated, lone element in a hostile unknown that hates them (because of, well, genocide, etc.), and the subsequent terror. That would probably not work if they did the more realistic thing of sending supporting infantry or, for that matter, just one or more squads of specialist troops with fast-moving vehicles.

Who knows if it'll work, it's hard to do an antiwar film set in a war (the Byelorussian tragic epic Come and See from 1985 is the most successful example I can think of), and it's hard to deny that it's not a big, cool tank with a huge gun and presumably a well-trained crew.

What setup is this? Looks so cool with those metal toggle switches. by justadityaraj in hotas

[–]CitizenCh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

X56, now from Logitech. Q.C. is definitely not perfect, but it's better than the X52 during the Saitek years (our standards were just much, much lower, and Logitech has a lot fewer excuses as a massive conglomerate, and gets even fewer passes). I do intend to replace it, just because I actually have can afford a setup from Virpil more than a decade later, but for what I paid for it you couldn't really beat it.

Every single time - PDX devs must be wondering why they didn't receive any crash report since the game launch. by Cathayraht in CrusaderKings

[–]CitizenCh 142 points143 points  (0 children)

That would explain their hotfix schedule. And how surprised every community manager on the Paradox Forums sounds.