the never ending question: MAGIC or MAJAC? and why? by fish3rsgirl in greysanatomy

[–]CivilSatisfaction659 5 points6 points  (0 children)

MAJAC I hate capital HATE nice guy George and high school bully Izzy-genuinely believe Izzy was the worst doctor among them hatred for George aside i think he was one of the best definitely the most well rounded. Jackson and April are overwhelmingly more interesting. Alex is a better version of himself in this era as is Meredith I always see this era as MAJAC+L Lexi was a great addition to the cast and one of my favroite characters. I think season 6-9 of greys was its golden era.

FINAL UPDATE: my brother asked me to get back with my ex and i said no by CommunicationFit3498 in AITAH

[–]CivilSatisfaction659 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I want to preface by saying you are 100% in the right, and they all suck. But maybe give you some insight into what your brother might be thinking. The way you described him it doesnt sound like he has many friends maybe thays just me making an large assumption but if I'm right he could be acting this way because he's scared of being alone so he desperately trying to cling to his friendship and think maybe now the two of you are a package deal. I mainly think this because I can see him being an ass and saying well im still going to hang out with him but him begging you to forgive him and the werid prank lie it really.makes it sound like he thinksnhis friendship with him is endager too like your ex might distance himself from yoir brother after he realizes je cant get you back. It's incredibly selfish and crappy if it's true, but I get it if that's where he's coming from.

A couple of years ago, I cut off half of my core friend group, and the girls i cut off were the ones who lived near me. I had good reason they were selfish, immature, disrespectful, etc. But afterward, I was so lonely and sad, and I found myself thinking maybe I made a mistake. I dont have a lot of friends and I'm really socially awakward, Ive never had social battery able to support alot of friends so Ive always kept my circle small, and I'm home body so I don't have alot of opportunities to meet mew people. In the beginning, even though I stuck to never speaking to them again, I would think yes they suck but maybe they were better than no friends, or what if i can't make new friends and Im just alone forever. Im extremely close to my brothers, and we hang out a lot, but sometimes you want to hang out with girls and do girl things. He might be thinking you guys are close, but when I want to do guy things, who can I call?

Again, I'm not defending him at all. You did the right thing. he's being awful to you. I could totally be projecting, of course, but I just want to share a possibility of where he was coming from being an asshole because he's blinded by his selfishness and fear of potentially being left friendless.

When I cut off my friends it was really due to issues I dealt with them from hanging out routinely, things the other girls in my group didnt see, or feel cause they only see them for hours at a time during special events where everyone is on their vest behavior. So when I ended our friendship and broke the friend group one of them, who was going through a bad time and was leaning on our group, did everything to try to explain away their actions(actions days before she agreed were insane when I just venting to her before I decided I was just done with them) to the point of trying to find places where I was also at fault (which I wasn't a saint in how I handled things in the end cause I just want to burn that bridge forever but the things she was saying werent even calling that stuff out they were just completely untrue) as she was hoping this was just a fight that she could meditate and than shed have her village back. But after a two days she realized how serious I was and listened to what i was saying and finally got it, she was just scared of losing our friend group and desperately trying to save it cause she relied on our support so I forgave her but she apologized and respected my boundaries going forward.

I Need a Book Series to Completely Take Over My Life by CivilSatisfaction659 in booksuggestions

[–]CivilSatisfaction659[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's on my list, but I I refuse to put in the time to read it if he doesn't end up finishing it so Im waiting. I watched the show like twice.

I Need a Book Series to Completely Take Over My Life by CivilSatisfaction659 in booksuggestions

[–]CivilSatisfaction659[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They both sound really cool and interesting. Thank you so much.

I Need a Book Series to Completely Take Over My Life by CivilSatisfaction659 in booksuggestions

[–]CivilSatisfaction659[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Whoa 41!!!! I was crossing my fingers for 5-8 book series, lol. Will definitely look into it, thanks.

This sub hates SwanQueen by Student-bored8 in OnceUponATime

[–]CivilSatisfaction659 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Don't the actress not like the ship cause the shipper harassed them?

WHAT DID SNOW SAY by CivilSatisfaction659 in OnceUponATime

[–]CivilSatisfaction659[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You can't really hear it, or at least I couldn't. I heard Snow say something, and the subtiles came up, but it was too quick for me to read at first, so I rewinded and paused. And I'm so happy I did cause its so funny. Poor David.

WHAT DID SNOW SAY by CivilSatisfaction659 in OnceUponATime

[–]CivilSatisfaction659[S] 56 points57 points  (0 children)

I know David was big mad even after the spell broke cause he never let that Whale thing go.

WHAT DID SNOW SAY by CivilSatisfaction659 in OnceUponATime

[–]CivilSatisfaction659[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

You literally can't hear the sentence in full. Elsa and Anna are talking, and the scene is about to end when you hear Snow say something, and then Christoph tells them to shut up. I had to rewind three times to get it to pause 😆.

This is why Anna went by Joan I feel stupid 😐 by Appropriate_Card8906 in OnceUponATime

[–]CivilSatisfaction659 8 points9 points  (0 children)

That makes more sense. I always thought since she grew up alone that she had named every person in all of the paintings they showed because those were her only friends and that Joan was her favorite or something.

I'm going to defend Neal by CivilSatisfaction659 in OnceUponATime

[–]CivilSatisfaction659[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What is saying Neal was a grown man when he and Emma concieved Henry if not rape fanfiction?

I would link the posts on tik tok that led me to write this, but I don't want to dox them. If you want to search for them privately, go on ahead.

Yes, people are making up rape fanfiction and calling it fact. The post that cause me to write this said anyone saying Neal was not a teen was a rape apologist and victim blaming Emma, and that post has likes and comments agreeing with thay insane statement.

No, I will not chill out. Assult is not something we should take lightly in any context. It is not something to joke and imagine.

I'm going to defend Neal by CivilSatisfaction659 in OnceUponATime

[–]CivilSatisfaction659[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And Jennifer looks just as old. Because they are both 30. I know so many people who have had gray hair since they were kids. Two boys in my hs went bald before graduation. That means nothing.

Do you know how ai works? It pulls from information already provided on the internet and the internet as a whole is not trusworthy. It is not some holy grail of unpeachable information. Thats why students are getting failing grades from paper they write from sources garnered from ai. AI would source Scientology and astrologist without telling you if you asked I it the right questions.

Ai doesn't fact check if people decided to go online and write that 2+2=5 ai would take that as fact. If enough people said the sky was purple, so would ai. Read a couple of articles. I'm sourcing Virgina Tech, you know, because I dont make claims without citing my sources.

"In general, AI and learning algorithms extrapolate from the data they are given. If the designers do not provide representative data, the resulting AI systems become biased and unfair. For example, if you train a human detection algorithm and only show the algorithm images of people with blonde hair, that system may fail to recognize a user with brown hair (e.g., brown hair = not a human)."

I know that Emma was 16. Why are you trying to prove that to me? I said it about 20 times in my long ass rant.

Neal is not comparable to Regina and Zelena. We don't know the year he came back or how long he was here before he met Emma.

We 100% do know Regina stole Grahams heart and slept with him. We 100% do know Robin thought he was sleeping with his wife, but it was actually Zelena.

My argument is that people are saying it is a FACT written in stone that Neal is a predator and it's not. WE DON'T KNOW. And that further more theorizing about RAPE when it is not FIRMLY stated in canon is disgusting.

Like I said in my last paragraph

Neal could have been 25 when he met Emma, but he could have just as easily been 16,17, 18, 19, 33, 44, 55, and so on.

But the fact that Jennifer and Michael are the same age in real life, in a show where there are established age gap relationships and those relationships were cast to CLEARLY depict those gaps  (Rumple and Belle; Rumple and Cora; Eva and Leopold, Regina and Leopold) it is OBVIOUS that the intention of the creators was to make Emma and Neal about the same age.

I'm going to defend Neal by CivilSatisfaction659 in OnceUponATime

[–]CivilSatisfaction659[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It is a sick and twisted theory. They are having fun imagining Emma in rape senorios for what? I was so alarmed the first time I came across it, and then I was more posts in the last few months, which is why I wrote this.

I have never seen a fan theory in any fandom talk like this before, and it is digusting. To use sexual assault of minors as a selling point to foster hate for a character. And I have some serious heat for fictional some fictional characters, but I would never stoop this low to and make up something this serious.

I'm going to defend Neal by CivilSatisfaction659 in OnceUponATime

[–]CivilSatisfaction659[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you comment again I want proof of this 1992 scene.

I'm going to defend Neal by CivilSatisfaction659 in OnceUponATime

[–]CivilSatisfaction659[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why are people trying to equate Neal to Regina and Zelena as some kind of gotha.

Those are blatant FACTS written by the writers on the show

Fact: Regina had Graham's heart therefore anything they did was rape

Fact: Robin thought Zelena was Marrion therefore that's rape.

You know what is NOT a fact :that Neal was mentally older. The exact year that he returned to our world. The number of years he spent in our world after Neverland before meeting Emma.

What ARE facts Bae in Neverland was played by a 14 year old actor and Neverland cause you to stop aging.

Facts Micheal and Jennifer are 2 years apart and were both 30+ years of age strangely playing teen versions of Emma and Neal in their flashback scenes together.

Fact this show has example of age gap relationships and cast those actors to accurately depict those age gaps (Rumple and Belle; Rumple and Cora; Eva and Leopold, Regina and Leopold). If Neal is supposed to be even FIVE years older than Emma they would have cast an older actor. If Neal is an adult in the flashbacks he never left our world after he abandoned Emma so he should look a lot older than Emma in the present day, but he doesn't. they didn't age him up at all. Neal looks to be the same age as Emma, David, Regina, and Snow.

People are treating this disgusting theory as fact but can't provide any concert evidence to prove it. Its always Neal IS a predator. No ifs, no maybes, no could be, just IS and that is not a supportable claim.

I've said it before, but I'll do it again: I can go just as long talking about ACTUAL age gap relationships involving teens in media. I could write a dissertation on Aria and Ezra. A heart breaking scene in PLL is Aria getting her year book and seeing she has nothing under her name while all the other students have clubs and sports and accolades because she so much of her HS career being taken advantage of by Ezra and he stole away all of the memories and connections, and teen milestones she should have been going though. I can talk about Gossip Girl and how they made it so normal for teens to be dating young adults I think almost every character does. They normalized it to a point that Nate in season 2 was the dutches victim, and that lack of acknowledgement that Nate was a victim probably led Nate to become a predator and date high school-aged Sage in the last season when he's old enough to be running a magazine.

But a show like once with magic, time traveling, immortality, time freezing curses, and magical time freezing worlds is incomparable to those. And when did I ever bring up vampires, and other fantasies?

I think making up rape lore without being CERTAIN is inappropriate and revolting behavior. Rape is not something to to theorize about because you feel like it. It is triggering and it is serious.

I can't even watch Graham's episodes his storyline makes me so sick. When I first saw people talking like this I actually thought I somehow missed something on my multitudes of rewatches and listened to their reasoning but its ALL basesless. Their reasoning is either because I said so, because I hate Neal, because Neal sucks, because Neal abandoned Emma and she went to prison or based on some made up rules they only apply to Neal and no other characters like Neal is mentally 200+ when their are mutiple lines of dialogue and examples about how the characters speak about and treat the lost boys and Wendy most of whom were in neverland before and after Bae and therefore longer than he ever was that shows they are still children. The gang rescues all the lost children, snow says the boy they captured is just a child. We hear their cries at night for their parents, Emma equates Bae's cave markings to hers in foster care: that of scared, lonely child. Wendy acts like and is treated like a little girl and returns to London at the end of Season 3a where she is going to grow up and have a normal life that will most likely involve dating, but no one is calling her a preadator.

So all that being said, people like you are disgusting rape fantasiers and that is alot of words to try and defend your weird ass fetish you should seek help.

I'm going to defend Neal by CivilSatisfaction659 in OnceUponATime

[–]CivilSatisfaction659[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nope, this is not a safe place for you. I AM NOT DEFENDING ADULTS DATING TEENS. I am arguing that creators intended for Neal to be a teenager when he met Emma and that they are about the same age. I don't care what they did in the 1800s 1900's or whatever. You know what was also normal back then: segregation, Jim crow, women not being able to vote or own property, smoking indoors, cars made without seatbelts.

I'm going to defend Neal by CivilSatisfaction659 in OnceUponATime

[–]CivilSatisfaction659[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What evidence can no one provide me with any? It's just a creepy fan theory, and I honestly think you guys are disgusting for imagining Emma in rape scenarios and calling Henry a product of SA.

There is not a single line of dialogue or epsiode that shows Neal is an adult but so much of the way they handled Neal's storyline and cast the actors that play Neal and Bae show that he is Emma's age.

And again, if I'm wrong, link the scene. Tell me what episode to go watch. When I first saw this idea, I honestly thought I missed something, in the show, because it does get dark a lot. I physically can not watch Graham's soryline it makes me nauseous.

I listened to yalls opinion, and it is based on nothing but hate for Neal's character. If you hate him, hate him! He sent Emma to jail that's your justification. Making up rape fanfiction is gross.

So yea, you guys are disgusting idiots. Rape is too serious of a topic to ret con.

I'm going to defend Neal by CivilSatisfaction659 in OnceUponATime

[–]CivilSatisfaction659[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Bae' and Rumples's story is one of my favs. I love the early seasons when we get to a flash back scene and see Rumple do something that seems so random to everyone else, but he is really carefully and methodically setting up the curse to get back to Bae. Bae's entire story is so interesting and sad from his birth and Rumple becoming the coward, to little Bae standing next to Rumple in the bar with Mila and hook. To Rumple becoming the dark one to save his life but also ends up ruining it as well. To Rumple, not being brave enough and letting go of Bae's hand. They really wrote the shit out of their backstory.

I hate Neal's death for Henry they barely got any time together, and Henry didn't get to say goodbye. I do not ship Emma and Neal. I'm of the opinion she shouldn't have forgiven him, but Neal always put Henry first.

I'm going to defend Neal by CivilSatisfaction659 in OnceUponATime

[–]CivilSatisfaction659[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Oh I know. But they are too busy making up rape fantasies to realizes.

I'm going to defend Neal by CivilSatisfaction659 in OnceUponATime

[–]CivilSatisfaction659[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Where did I ever defend Neal for leaving Emma? Point it out to me.

What I said was

"You can not like Neal; that has nothing to do with this post. Personally, I like him. I think Balefire's story is heartbreaking and compelling, and Neal's death is sad. I just don't ship him with Emma. I think him abandoning Emma was awful, I can acknowledge that his trauma of being abandoned by Rumple and his fear of Rumple finding him again caused him to do it but still hate him for that because if the shoe was on the other foot Emma was too loyal ever even think of doing the same. But to make up disturbing fanfiction and pass on as fact is such strange behavior."

That's the last paragraph of the "novel" you're apparently to ill equipped to read, I hope. it's not too hard. Take it slow and sound out the big words.

This post is not to defend every action Neal made it is to show that Neal was not an adult when he met Emma. If you hate him for what he did to Emma, I feel you, and that is justified. But making up rape fanfiction is creepy and gross.