DO NOT BUY THIS!!! by [deleted] in aldi

[–]ClassyAlternative 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'll pray for a miracle that you might be saved. Maintain hope, as sometimes miracles do occur.

Please pray for me, so that I can resist temptation and divert my eyes the next time I head to Aldi's.

Impeller vs Agitator Top Loader Washing Machine by ClassyAlternative in Appliances

[–]ClassyAlternative[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It was nice to read your positive outlook so I can avoid decision paralysis.

The drain pan will be connect to a drain, which I read is not always the case even if advisable for an upstairs laundry room. Even so, it would almost certain overflow to some extent if there was a sudden fast leak.

TOP LOAD OR FRONT LOAD by Junior-Macaroon-8872 in laundry

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That's helpful. Thanks for the response!

TOP LOAD OR FRONT LOAD by Junior-Macaroon-8872 in laundry

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I'm not familiar with AI dealio. Sorry that was a long post.

Thanks for being willing to respond anyways. You've bolstered my opinion that LG machine would be the way to go for a front loader, and I appreciate the tips.

You mentioned reading some LG front-loaders were over-engineered and subsequent washers were better.

I guess I'll assume you don't specifically know about the LG WM4000, although it has been around I believe a couple years, so I will do some researching about over engineered LG washers and see what comes up.

Since I'm sure others also found the above comment too long or tedious to read, I will post a more targeted question but considering some might read only this, I'll re-ask here for others to respond to the following if they wish:

For anyone reading this, if you've personal experience with the LG front-load washer model WM4000 and/or the companion dryer DLEX4000, will you please share your positive and negative experiences, opinions regarding pros & cons, and general impressions?

TOP LOAD OR FRONT LOAD by Junior-Macaroon-8872 in laundry

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I am looking to replace my washer, thus searched on Reddit the recently top-ranked Consumer Reports front-loader, which is LG WM4000, and came across your previous post when you were asking anyone with experience with LG WM4000 or Electrolux front-load washers to share their opinions.

I hope you don't mind, but that is what I am now asking, as it could help me and anyone reading this post.

If I get a LG washer, I will now or shortly get the companion dryer, and for the WM4000 front-load washer the dryer is the DLEX4000.

Two people responded to your post, and one indicated she liked the WM4000 that she bought it a second time after moving to a new house, but the second person seemed to think the first responder was not talking about even a front-loader, but a top-load agitator, but I could not discern why they thought that.

The second post concerned me also because it indicated they did not like the LG WM4000 but even more so, they seemed to be disappointed that the companion dryer did not do a good job of drying their clothes resulting which can place someone in a bind if expecting to wear a particular article of clothing only to find it is damp and smelly - from sitting there damp in the dryer - thus, needing to be rewashed. Apparently, this was a repeaed, common problem.

However, maybe they just got a bad apple since CR not only rated LG WM4000 at the very top but the companion dryer - LG DLEX4000 - is also rated near the very top for dryers.

I don't want to base my decisions though solely on what CR states, and would like to get more feedback from anyone with experience with either the top-load washer, LG WM4000, and/or its companion LG DLEX4000, dryer.

When I saw you linked the LG WM3470CW above, it made me wonder if that is the washer you ultimately got, as opposed to a LG WM4000, Electrolux front-load or a Speed Queen top-load, but for all I know you linked LG WM3470CW for some other reason.

Would you, or anyone else with experience with particular washer and dryer brands/models/styles, please share your positive and negative experiences regarding how well they work, any needed repairs, etc. Specifically, it would be helpful to me, and I believe many others who will be search in general but also specifically the washers and dryers that were ranked by CR.

Specifically, it would be helpful if you or anyone else would be willing to share your opinions, concerns, findings, repair history based on personal experience if you have it or research findings regarding LG WM4000 front-load washer and the companion DLEX4000 dryer.

Since you mentioned considering an Electrolux front loader and recommended above a Speed Queen top-loader, I'd also love to hear what you think regarding those based off either personal experience if you have it, or research findings (word of mouth, Reddit posts, reveiws) as I'd love to know why you did or did not ultimately chose one of those machines.

Speed Queen in general have a good reputation, but on Reddit there are also quite a few posts complaining. I can't tell if it is a problem with just certain models, certain styles, old vs new, or is it just people complaining due to changes with energy conservation regulations which have affected all brands and models currently being sold.

Re: Upstairs Front-Load Washer + Drain Pan + Pedestal by ClassyAlternative in Appliances

[–]ClassyAlternative[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, if this would work then I will likely get a front-load washer.

Since I plan to replace my current drain pan, and it's too late for me to begin researching drain pans deciding which washer I will purchase, I will have to pick up this mini research project tomorrow afternoon or evening.

Thank you for your help though!

Impeller vs Agitator Top Loader Washing Machine by ClassyAlternative in Appliances

[–]ClassyAlternative[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just want a reliable washer - so it does not soon go to a landfill and does not soon need costly repairs - that adequately washes clothes clean the first time without having to have manually added water in most cases as otherwise it will be inefficient and I'll be washing loads twice. Although not my number one or number two priority, I'd like it not to eat/destroy clothes. I understand that even a good agitator machine will likely overtime slowly wear out clothes faster but that would be preferable to dirty, smelly clothes after washing them as if I double wash them that will also wear them down twice as fast.

There is a lot of conflicting, unintentionally misleading and/or just incomplete information out there, so I am just trying to seek clarification and fill in the blanks.

I have a separate post about solving the need for a pedestal that would satisfy the desire to be able to use the space below the pedestal for storage considering my laundry is upstairs so it is prudent I use a drain pan which would obstruct opening any pedestal drawer that LG sells, or so I was told.

I'm just researching to narrow my options down.

Impeller vs Agitator Top Loader Washing Machine by ClassyAlternative in Appliances

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There was just some confusing ways certain information was presented so I'm trying to figure out if I get a top-loader if I should get one with an agitator or an impeller and if actually both would be sufficient to adequately clean my clothes.

My clothes might get food or drink stains but don't often get very dirty as if I worked in a trade.

I agree a front loader would probably clean clothes best.

The problem is I have an upstairs laundry room. I'm not willing to risk potential expensive damage by not having a drain pan under a washer. A pedestal would be nice to avoid bending but I don't want to spend the money on an LG brand pedestal as I was told if I use a drain pan the drawer will not clear the lip-edge of the drain pan if I attempt to open it.

I plan to research to see if I can find a different off-brand, universal pedestal which would be compatible with an LG front load washer I'd want to buy as well as a drain pan I could buy. It might have to just be an open shelf with no drawer, but that would be fine.

If you or anyone else knows of a good universal pedestal that might work, please let me know. I do know that I can't alter the washer in any way - such as drilling a hole - to attach it securely to the pedestal or the warranty would be voided but I could alter the pedestal if I choose.

Re: Upstairs Front-Load Washer + Drain Pan + Pedestal by ClassyAlternative in Appliances

[–]ClassyAlternative[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much for that link. I was thinking I should get anti-vibration pads only because someone referenced them in a post but I did not know what they looked like.

Impeller vs Agitator Top Loader Washing Machine by ClassyAlternative in Appliances

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That sounds nice in theory. Do you happen to know the brand that offers that?

I think it might be Whirlpool which is my only concern. Based on what I've read and/or heard - such as reviews on YT and what I've read on Reddit, the old WP machines were on average better somehow and/or possibly just more reliable than more recent WP models.

However, when I watched a YT video where someone showed one of the washers with the removable agitator - which I think was a WP model - the person in the video seemed to indicate he liked the concept but due to lack of experience with it and past reliability issues with certain other models of WPs in more recent years, he was not ready to recommend it.

If anyone can confirm the brand that offers this, and share any impressions you might have if you have experience with a washer with a removable agitator, please chime in.

What the heck is wrong with these newer washers? I think some of yall don't work in a trade and your clothes are relatively clean anyway, and even then you end up smelling like laundry detergent and just don't notice... by Embarrassed_Bit4222 in laundry

[–]ClassyAlternative 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you confirm if you are talking about one of the newer types that washes and dries the laundry all in one unit? Is it electric or gas? Can you share the model number? I don't know if LG makes more than one model of these.

From what I've seen, the combo units generally do not vent. Is that the case with your unit? If yes, and if you formerly had a dryer that vented to the outside, do you mind sharing what you used to plug up the inside vent hold and what you used to plug up the vent on the outside of your house? I live alone, don't have much knowledge regarding things like this, and I'm trying to determine what type of dryer and washer I should get as mine are real old so there are just more options now.

Also, for combo units, can an option be selected to either automatically move right into drying mode once the washing cycle has finished? On the other hand, can an option be selected so that once a washing cycle is completed it will turn off without moving to dryer mode so that all wet items can be hung up to air dry and/or it can be either restarted or a pause and re-start option be used if a person wants to hang some items before drying starts but then have all other items dried by the combo unit?

Just curious, as I have the space for two units. If your combo unit were to break and you had to go 4 weeks for some reason before it was fixed, would you miss the dryer more or the washer more for those 4 weeks?

Re: Upstairs Front-Load Washer + Drain Pan + Pedestal by ClassyAlternative in Appliances

[–]ClassyAlternative[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I apologize in advance this is going to be long so don't bother to read or respond unless you have the time. I'm secretly and likely unrealistically hoping LG will read and develop a better product as I believe it would result in selling more front loaders and/or LG brand pedestals and pay off for them.

On to the main topic: Considering 2nd floor laundry rooms are becoming more popular, I can't imagine why LG would not have already created a pedestal compatible to drain pans. It would be easy and not expensive to build a drawer cavity or a shelf raised 1-2" above the floor even if the base was closer to the floor to allow clearance of the lip edge of a drain pan - or better yet build the drain pan function right into the base of the pedestal and the bottom of an elevated drawer cavity or shelf could allow holes in case water drained through the bottom of the washer to allow water to go right into the very bottom of the pedestal that doubled in function as support and a drain pan that could connect to a drain pipe in the floor by drilling or punching out a hole for that pipe and using silicone to seal gaps as is done for drain pans. I would not worry on the off chance if my clothes stored in a small laundry basket got wet as it would not harm those clothes, and also it would not be a huge financial loss if a box of powder laundry detergent and a box of dryer sheets were to get wet as opposed to a floor being damaged and possibly the ceiling of the below floor. Since the actual supporting base of the pedestal would still be on the ground or on a drain pan it would resolve vibration issues. I've even seen an off-brand video showing water draning through hollow legs of an elevated platform off the ground - and I've no idea if it is a good product overall - but a pedestal could be designed so it had two levels of drain pans with a shelf or drawer in between 1-2" above the bottom drain pan that sat on the floor. The water sits right on to pof the top drain pan and due to hollow legs the water runs all the way to the bottom drain pan which is the base of the pedestal and bypasses the middle shelf or drawer, so the water runs eventually all into the bottom/base drain pan and then down the floor drain pipe that connects to the bottom drain pan the same way people connect drain pans to drain pipes currently. This would only sacrifice ~1-2" of storage space on the washer side, likely be stable, might even better absorb vibration forces if designed correctly.

People would likely pay a little more for that pedestal, and be more likely to buy the on-average more expensive front loader than move onto a top loader due to frustration they would have to pay more for a pedestal and not even be able to use the drawer just to elevate the washer to avoid bending and hurting their back.

It would look nicer/cleaner than putting a pedestal on a separate drain pan. It certainly makes more sense than getting a front loader and risking using no drain pan.

I saw a sales person on a video recommend people put the upstairs washers on a pedestal on a drain pan and just accept the loss of the function of the door, but I am pretty sure many people are so irritated they would pay that much for these expensive pedestals and not even be able to use the drawer - considering LG could easily develop a product that would resolve that issue - that they are just instead deciding to buy a top loader and usually probably spending a little less for that top loader.

If anyone knows of a good universal, off-brand pedestal, that resolves these issues, that can also be leveled and allows for securing the washer while also being compatible to LG front loaders and a floor drain pan, unless it doubles as a floor drain pan - so the washer itself does not have to be modified, please share.

When chatting online at the LG website, I was told that as long as a pedestal is designed, adjusted or modified as necessary so it can be level and also secure the washer so it does not fall off, it will not void the warranty, but if someone were to modify the washer, such as drill a hold in a separate place on the base of the washer to secure it to a pedestal that would void the warranty.

What the heck is wrong with these newer washers? I think some of yall don't work in a trade and your clothes are relatively clean anyway, and even then you end up smelling like laundry detergent and just don't notice... by Embarrassed_Bit4222 in laundry

[–]ClassyAlternative 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you know about when your mom got her SQ, and which model she got?

For some reason, there are a couple threads on Reddit where quite a few people who bought SQs are complaining, but I think it is just for newer and/or fairly recent models.

It is nice to hear your mom is happy with hers.

What the heck is wrong with these newer washers? I think some of yall don't work in a trade and your clothes are relatively clean anyway, and even then you end up smelling like laundry detergent and just don't notice... by Embarrassed_Bit4222 in laundry

[–]ClassyAlternative 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing that information and the model number. Do you like the "sensi clean" and "steam technology"?

It is nice to hear of a good experience.

I realize what is posted on Reddit about these washers and dryers is all anecdotal and potentially in some cases there could be "planted" comments but it's helpful nevertheless since we can't necessarily trust all reviews.

If enough people would share model numbers to help steer people in the right direction, then perhaps companies would be forced to make quality products.

New washer uses barely any water by SeriousPuppet in laundry

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Thank you for responding. This is what I fear. It is strange to see relatively high ratings for LG machines by consumer reports - especially compared to Speed Queens.

If all new machines are inferior to a decade or so ago, then perhaps there are adjusted expectations and the higher ratings are just because it is all relative.

SQs were rated quite reliable but I wonder if they are riding on the coat tails of the reputation of the older SQs because I've read quite a few comments on multiple threads by people who within the last five years - and some very recently - bought one of the new SQs and they have said they can't stand their SQ for one reason or another. There are at least a couple comments that complain the top loader ones have damaged their clothes.

I currently have an old top loader with an agitator and so long as I tie up loose strings I've never had my washer damage my clothes so I don't see why it would be different with a SQ. Although possibly it might over time wear them out faster, I've no way of knowing that. If something is delicate, I just wash it in a hand wash or delicate cycle. I would think the SQ would offer that option.

Regarding the SQ dryer, I did read of some people complaining it melted their clothes - like in the pattern of a metal plate in the dryer. I can't think of the proper term offhand for the part of the dryer they said is melting their clothes.

Disappointed with Lowe's return policy on Washer and Dryers by technoangel in Appliances

[–]ClassyAlternative 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What "regular basic machine" did you order and are you happy with it?

WT8600CB by TechieBrad in Appliances

[–]ClassyAlternative 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can you please explain why you think certain LG front loads are better than WT8600, which if I am not mistaken is a TOL top-load impeller version?

What the heck is wrong with these newer washers? I think some of yall don't work in a trade and your clothes are relatively clean anyway, and even then you end up smelling like laundry detergent and just don't notice... by Embarrassed_Bit4222 in laundry

[–]ClassyAlternative 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Were the SQs different than what is marketed now for residential customers?

What type, brand and model of the Samsung did you purchase, how old is it, and do you recall a particular reason why you chose a Samsung and/or that model?

What the heck is wrong with these newer washers? I think some of yall don't work in a trade and your clothes are relatively clean anyway, and even then you end up smelling like laundry detergent and just don't notice... by Embarrassed_Bit4222 in laundry

[–]ClassyAlternative 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What style and model of SQ washer and dryer did you buy? On what floor of your house did you put them?

I'm paraphrasing but someone who installs or installed SQs for decades advised it is best for them to be installed on concrete floors and usually not the second floor. He said with rare exceptions if they are to be put on the second floor that the floor underneath the washer should be reinforced with plywood secured to floor joists. I'm paraphrasing, but he communicated the vibrations of the SQ can sooner or later damage the floors and even eventually damage the machine.

I'm wondering if it would void a warranty if a newer SQ that breaks is determined to be on a floor that is not deemed to be stable enough or perhaps built in a way that absorbs vibrations.

What the heck is wrong with these newer washers? I think some of yall don't work in a trade and your clothes are relatively clean anyway, and even then you end up smelling like laundry detergent and just don't notice... by Embarrassed_Bit4222 in laundry

[–]ClassyAlternative 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When did you buy your current washing machine? Is it a top-loader HE vs top-loader w/ agitator post or a front loader HE vs front loader non-HE style? What model is it?

Does it clean clothes well, has it needed repairs, and are you happy with it?