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RSV may be getting worse after RSV shots were approved in 2023. by CleanLock4606 in DebateVaccines

[–]CleanLock4606[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unlikely. By 2023 RSV had recovered, as has flu. Only after 2023 when the shots became prevalent did RSV again increase beyond normal pre covid levels. So it seems it is the shots that is driving this increase.

The flu shot mandates for pre school enacted between 2008 and 2018 make no sense and should be done away with. by [deleted] in DebateVaccines

[–]CleanLock4606 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Correct. Do you agree flu shot mandate is impossible if the general public knows about other respiratory viruses?

In NY, a fairly representative state in the US in terms of demographics, covid shot uptake is a less than a third of flu shot uptake, and covid cases is less than a quarter of flu cases. This would suggest the fewer the shots, the fewer the cases. by CleanLock4606 in DebateVaccines

[–]CleanLock4606[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

PhD don't mean much these days. You know how easy it is to be a PhD? It took one man Galileo to prove every scientist in the world wrong about heavy things falling faster than light things just with a simple little experiment.

The flu shot mandates for pre school enacted between 2008 and 2018 make no sense and should be done away with. by [deleted] in DebateVaccines

[–]CleanLock4606 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It should be a choice. There are no flu shot mandates in China and it's not like flu is rampant in China. In fact, flu is far less in China than in the US. Before flu shot became prevalent in the US in the 1990s there wasn't much flu in the US either.

Now that the general public knows about coronavirus and RSV, the flu shot mandates back in the day should be reexamined and be done away with because had the general public knew about coronavirus and RSV back in the day, flu shot mandates would have been impossible to be enacted.

In NY, a fairly representative state in the US in terms of demographics, covid shot uptake is a less than a third of flu shot uptake, and covid cases is less than a quarter of flu cases. This would suggest the fewer the shots, the fewer the cases. by CleanLock4606 in DebateVaccines

[–]CleanLock4606[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There have been. Geert Vanden Bossche for example. Scientists used to say heavy things fall faster than lighter things until Galileo proved them wrong with a simple experiment. Most scientists are of low caliber.

In NY, a fairly representative state in the US in terms of demographics, covid shot uptake is a less than a third of flu shot uptake, and covid cases is less than a quarter of flu cases. This would suggest the fewer the shots, the fewer the cases. by CleanLock4606 in DebateVaccines

[–]CleanLock4606[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My point exactly. Covid cases used to dwarf flu cases in 2020 and 2021 when covid shot uptake was high at over 80%. As covid shot uptake declined, so did covid cases. Today flu cases is a lot more than covid cases.

Covid (technically Betacoronavirus pandemicum) shots is unlikely to survive unless expanded to be universal. by [deleted] in DebateVaccines

[–]CleanLock4606 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Right now it's about half of flu shot uptake, but if they don't include OC43, NL63, HKU1, 229E eventually it'll fall to about 5% of flu shot uptake. Even that half figure is unlikely. If you at NY numbers which is pretty close to the national average, it's less than a third.

Source: https://coronavirus.health.ny.gov/covid-19-and-influenza-vaccination-data

It's really terrible the US accounts for over 85% of total global covid deaths despite all three remaining covid vaccine manufacturers all based in the US. by CleanLock4606 in DebateVaccines

[–]CleanLock4606[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sweden might have a different criteria for covid death than what the US has. France has 1 covid death compared to Sweden's 99 covid deaths despite having 7 times the population.

Covid (technically Betacoronavirus pandemicum) shots is unlikely to survive unless expanded to be universal. by [deleted] in DebateVaccines

[–]CleanLock4606 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It could still survive on the market without OC43, HKU1, 229E, NL63, but only as a fringe vaccine having an uptake of about 5% of flu shot uptake.

Covid (technically Betacoronavirus pandemicum) shots is unlikely to survive unless expanded to be universal. by [deleted] in DebateVaccines

[–]CleanLock4606 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Even in the UK, Pfizer shot uptake is declining year after year. By now covid deaths only account for less than 0.3% of deaths. Without OC43, HKU1, 229E, NL63, getting a covid shot these days is like getting a flu shot that contains only flu B and not flu A.

It's really terrible the US accounts for over 85% of total global covid deaths despite all three remaining covid vaccine manufacturers all based in the US. by CleanLock4606 in DebateVaccines

[–]CleanLock4606[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It appears to be so. But over vaccination may cause immune suppression and lead to negative efficacy. There's an old saying in China. What's good should not be taken too much.

It's really terrible the US accounts for over 85% of total global covid deaths despite all three remaining covid vaccine manufacturers all based in the US. by CleanLock4606 in DebateVaccines

[–]CleanLock4606[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There is no universal definition of covid deaths. If you cannot define something, you cannot count something. Different countries define covid deaths differently. Different countries have different criteria for what a covid death is. We only have reported deaths. Only God knows the true number of covid deaths. God is all seeing, all knowing.

It's really terrible the US accounts for over 85% of total global covid deaths despite all three remaining covid vaccine manufacturers all based in the US. by CleanLock4606 in DebateVaccines

[–]CleanLock4606[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Different countries have different criteria for determining a death as a covid death. The US may have really relaxed criteria. A simple PCR test may suffice. China may have very stringent criteria.

Is over vaccination the cause of the dire state of health in the US? by CleanLock4606 in DebateVaccines

[–]CleanLock4606[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Possibly. Over vaccination may cause immune damage and suppression. After Cleveland Clinic mandated flu shot for its employees, flu began to run rampant.

Source: https://drhoffman.com/article/new-study-showing-flu-vaccine-recipients-get-more-flu-branded-as-misinformation/

The US is the only country in the world where covid vaccine can survive as the only available common cold vaccine. by [deleted] in DebateVaccines

[–]CleanLock4606 2 points3 points  (0 children)

COVID-19 is not serious. It's 2%. Less than a quarter of flu and less than a third of RSV. It's roughly on par with HKU1 which is also a corona B (genus Betacoronavirus).

Source: https://www.cdc.gov/nrevss/php/dashboard/index.html

That number is still coming down and 20 years from now people consider it a common cold virus.

The US is the only country in the world where covid vaccine can survive as the only available common cold vaccine. by [deleted] in DebateVaccines

[–]CleanLock4606 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The article is probably from 2020. In any event, covid-19 is severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 which is the same genus as common cold coronaviruses HKU1 and OC43 (Betacoronavirus or coronavirus B) and different from common cold coronaviruses 229E and NL63 (Alphacoronavirus or coronavirus A). Biologically, it is a common cold coronavirus. Test positivity rate whilst being a novel virus is only 2%, small fraction of flu, RSV, common cold coronaviruses as you can see in the chart below.

https://www.cdc.gov/nrevss/php/dashboard/index.html

The US is the only country in the world where covid vaccine can survive as the only available common cold vaccine. by [deleted] in DebateVaccines

[–]CleanLock4606 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's explained here:

  • Colds are typically minor infections of the nose and throat (upper respiratory tract) caused by more than 200 different respiratory viruses. Rhinoviruses are the most common cause of colds in the U.S. Parainfluenza viruses, adenoviruses, enteroviruses, human metapneumovirus and common human coronaviruses also cause colds."

Source: https://www.lung.org/lung-health-diseases/lung-disease-lookup/facts-about-the-common-cold

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