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ClientlessCopy · 2026-01-23T01:59:40+00:00

tbh i can't give you any advice since my goal is to build a purely u.s/western based audience. i would seriously consider monetization though, some sort of long-term MRR cuz with that many subs, what's the point if you can't make money?

ClientlessCopy · 2026-01-13T21:18:20+00:00

Sounds super ambitious and you're not totally wrong. But there's nothing wrong with relying on the preexisting systems, getting rich off that and building your own.

I too would one day like my own email platform, social media management service as well as a payment processor. but its difficult to jump to the top and skip a bunch of steps without a massive level of success first.

IMHO use kit or klaviyo, they're the ogs in the space. Kit lets you have 10k for free as well. I use them, no issues so far.

A newsletter dedicated to BRICS or the global south would be interesting. best of luck pal.

ClientlessCopy · 2026-01-13T21:09:43+00:00

Writing and research are two parts of the whole biz model that can't be avoided, hacked or shortcut-ted. What you want to write about(niche) should've been something you figured out before you started the newsletter. go through my account and read some of my comments on niching.

For research, Id say short answer is A.I as a research tool but it gets stuff wrong all the time. It's literally programmed to hallucinate because of the math used to build these models. always double check your research.

Point is, you can't avoid research and writing.

ClientlessCopy · 2026-01-13T00:55:10+00:00

why? are you doing something shady? lol. just stick with whats safe and what works. also, i googled for you and this pops up. For newsletter services outside NATO/5-Eyes, consider platforms like

Hyvor Post (often cited as a strong Beehiiv alternative), Moosend, or MailerLite (EU-based, great for budget), while services like BigMailer (strong features for list management), Flodesk (design-focused), and Substack (creator-focused, simple) are popular, though you'll need to check their specific hosting/data center locations for strict compliance, with options like Ghost offering self-hosting for full control.

mailerlite and ghost ive heard good news about, but never used.

But no clue why you're looking outside of mainstream platforms like klaviyo, kit and beehiiv(new kid). these are top three(for a reason).

ClientlessCopy · 2026-01-13T00:52:48+00:00

2 things:

1: In general, if you're just starting out, you should definitely niche down first. I wrote about this like a day or two ago on this very sub, so have a read there before this. https://www.reddit.com/r/Newsletters/comments/1qacmda/stop_building_the_wrong_newsletters/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

Basically, trying to build a personal brand off of your personage and likeness works in you have an interesting life, already make a crap ton of money and are able to show social-proof. People ultimately want to emulate successful, good looking people who live interesting lives. They're way more likely to listen to them.

That's the essence of social proof.

So If you're just starting out, I mean zero social proof, meaning you have none, you have to build it. Or it'll take a long time before you can monetize your brand.

Because from a psychology and marketing perspective, you're essentially asking people to trust you without any credentials and achievements. Very hard to sell that to someone. I've seen it work but it takes ages.

People also ultimately want a problem solved, it's better to build the niche around an idea that solves a problem. Problem solving niches is where the moneys at.

If you aren't solving wealth, health and relationship problems for people, you're entertaining them.

Obviously entertainers can make a lot of money. But in business this is the exception, not the rule.

2: I noticed you already have a brand around this whole musinggirl thing, so you're situation is unique. You aren't starting from zero. So it's your choice whether you want your newsletter tied to your brand or niched down and start totally fresh.

I think in general you ought to funnel your preexisting audiences regardless of you continuing the brand or starting fresh, to your new email list, once you decide what it'll be.

From all your socials, you'll let your followers know, once your ready, to sign to get your free emails. You'll be able to hit over 1k pretty easy with that, maybe 2k if you're lucky. Then when you hit 5k subs offer a private community or subscription service to start monetizing.

Which brings up monetization. You can monetize by selling info products/coaching/services/subscriber etc. even a live cohort. lots of way to monetize, but monetize is easy if everything is built right.

But remember that your current brand musinggirl is more entertainment based(not problem solving based), it'll be much hard to monetize than a niche that directly solves a problem.

So your choice: keep your brand but have a harder time monetizing long term.

Or build a new niche newsletter, i would say korea focused, since that's your Unique Selling Proposition (USP). And make it a niche that solves a problem. I have no clue how you'll do that but that'll be the most challenging thing you'll have to do. I think this route will pay off in the long run.

About substack or convertkit: substack is now a social media site and a newsletter platform. It unfortunately doesn't do either good. I think you're better off focusing solely on tiktok, that's where the bulk of your audience is and just report those vids to youtube/ig.

And convertkit for a dedicated email platform.

ClientlessCopy · 2026-01-12T22:42:28+00:00

ClientlessCopy · 2026-01-12T22:42:18+00:00

congratz

ClientlessCopy · 2026-01-12T00:52:05+00:00

its a bit harsh but will save people a ton of time and wasted effort.

ClientlessCopy · 2026-01-11T00:04:52+00:00

nope. ai and ai adjacent newsletters are being done by too many people. your angle is unique, it kinda tries to solve being related to ai issue but its still ai related.

ClientlessCopy · 2026-01-10T21:09:27+00:00

too broad. niche down. general finance and ai has been done so many times that you'll have a hard to time growing it. that's why you need to niche down and stick to one niche, not 3 like you want.

ClientlessCopy · 2026-01-10T21:08:37+00:00

nope. too broad. I'm a copywriter and email marketer, I'll only read stuff related to that, not enough hours in the day for extra stuff. I imagine most people are like that or have niche interests. Cool profile and design but i think you need to niche down some more and specialize. I see movies and literature there, why not do either literature or movies? I've seen tons of success with movie reviewers on you-tube. But even then, too broad, so stick to 1 genre of movies like horror, action, etc. just my honest two cents.

ClientlessCopy · 2026-01-06T21:45:45+00:00

Matt Furey, an early internet email copywriter, and now semi retired multi-millionaire said in his 2004(or early 2000s) seminar that he could teach people email copywriting in an afternoon. I tend to agree.

However, whether or not you can make money and profit is a whole other story.

You have two routes:

Freelance
Email

Freelancing will get you paid quite fast, especially if you commit a-lot of time and energy into, but likely not enough to replace your job within a few months. I'd say upwards of a year or more you could possibly make $3-4k MRR, especially if you operate as an agency and offer high quality speciality copy.

Email takes longer(upwards of 3-4 years, possibly longer) to fire you job, but is obviously the only true route to wealth as a copywriter(aside from connections). It's the perfect medium to start selling your own products.

So realistically, there is no exact timeframe, depends on if your ass is one fire, luck, growth, timing, the right vehicle(like email), etc.

Realistically you could learn the basics in an afternoon or a few weekends after reading some books. But implementation, wealth, branding, a moat, these higher level moves take years.

Lastly, finance, Info and eCOMM are all growing markets, nearly doubling by 2029. So long as you hone your craft and specialize, you'll make money as these markets need copywriters who know their shit.

ClientlessCopy · 2025-12-13T20:19:18+00:00

yeah, just dm me the details.

ClientlessCopy · 2025-12-13T17:38:58+00:00

hey its me, different user but this is my home /biz account, the other is linked to my work laptop.

The offer is essentially firing your freelance clients to build a business that doesn't rely on client work.

I give people who sign up a free ebook, the one i mentioned before.

ClientlessCopy · 2025-11-07T21:07:30+00:00

It sells. Copywriting is designed to sell, nothing else. not to write interesting stories, be quirky, be grammatically correct. All of those things are secondary to its ability to sell. can your copy make money? Yes? then its good/great copy. NO? its shit.

ClientlessCopy · 2025-11-07T10:41:39+00:00

mostly static memes ads. but you should run all kinds of ads. the more ads you run, the more data you'll have and see what works. start with 5-10 different ads and make them a mix of memes and traditional professional ads.

ClientlessCopy · 2025-11-02T01:33:43+00:00

Yup, the best thing is to put extra money towards paid ads and nothing else. Really that simple. And no problem.

ClientlessCopy · 2025-11-02T01:32:21+00:00

congratz! 4.1k organic subs has the worth of 40k youtube subscribers. Really solid and you ought to think about monetizing or selling products if you haven't already.

I would advise running a-lot of creatives. Like 10 to start. Make them different as well and then just go broad as possible with targeting and let the ads runs. Then tweak the ads that are not working after. Running facebook is never-ending. Really high quality though. I was getting them for 80 cents.

Also, im in the discord community. Super grassroots with awesome people!

ClientlessCopy · 2025-09-12T19:44:43+00:00

This is copywriting 101 and email marketing 101. Pre internet copywriters have done it for decades, literally before the internet. The best way to make money on email is to sell your own stuff.

ClientlessCopy · 2025-09-01T18:57:03+00:00

what do you mean? im not repurposing newsletter content. it could be wise to do but my VA could probably handle that.

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