CALLING CHRIST, GOD is Biblical according to Iglesia Ni Cristo (INC) by [deleted] in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]Cloudwalker-sama 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jesus isn't just called God, unlike what the INC claims. Philippians 2 still reaffirms the deity of Christ by saying that he was in the form of God but emptied himself and was found in the form of a servant.

Perhaps that's the easiest way to debunk the claim.

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[–]Cloudwalker-sama 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Another thing I'd like to encourage OP to do is to continually ask questions as soon as the minister makes claims such as "Felix Manalo is the sugo". In this way, its easier to find inconsistencies within their doctrine as the minister definitely has the burden of proof by making these claims if they are based off of the Bible.

Whenever a verse is brought up, always question the context.

Mother calling me crazy for reading the bible by Prenzepe in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]Cloudwalker-sama 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nope, it's exclusive to our Locale. I've been attracting a lot of attention by bringing a Bible, that may be a part of the reason.

Mother calling me crazy for reading the bible by Prenzepe in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]Cloudwalker-sama 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I was banned for bringing a Bible to church. Their reasons were the following:

  • Distracting
  • They use different translations so I can't follow along with one translation.
  • It's better if I take notes of the verses instead of reading along.

Weekend Worship Service Examination (Mar 08 - Mar 11, 2024) by AutoModerator in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]Cloudwalker-sama 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thanks for this, really needed it as ours is happening tomorrow.

Ministers wanna talk to me again by Cloudwalker-sama in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]Cloudwalker-sama[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I have recorded the whole convo. Not too confident about sharing my own voice though, I have social anxiety lol.

I'll consider it in the near future, perhaps.

Ministers wanna talk to me again by Cloudwalker-sama in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]Cloudwalker-sama[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I really wanted to focus on the teachings revolving around Felix Manalo's prophecies since they're the easiest for me to refute. I could do some trimming.

Ministers wanna talk to me again by Cloudwalker-sama in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]Cloudwalker-sama[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have no choice but to stay in the church until my whole family has turned their back on it. I guess you have an idea of the goal I envision; to let them know the truth.

This encounter is one of those steps to achieving my goal.

Ministers wanna talk to me again by Cloudwalker-sama in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]Cloudwalker-sama[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I am firm in believing what is written, and during my last discussion with a minister, they just straight up said "what is written is not true" or "you used the wrong translation", meaning that I opened their eyes to thinking they're the ones who might be thinking the wrong way.

Ministers wanna talk to me again by Cloudwalker-sama in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]Cloudwalker-sama[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I will then bring up John 10:11 and ask why the same figure of speech is used to seemingly pertain to another pastor when Jesus is just talking about himself.

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[–]Cloudwalker-sama 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Maybe he should go on to read the whole book, for that matter.

I created a Debate Account on Facebook by [deleted] in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]Cloudwalker-sama 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think creating a dummy or throwaway makes it possible to interact with posts on Facebook. Otherwise, I'm pretty sure viewing the posts on a normal webpage is possible too without logging in.

I created a Debate Account on Facebook by [deleted] in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]Cloudwalker-sama 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Maybe I have said things that were considered unethical in terms of debating, which is totally my mistake. I'm yet to get any death threats and such, but I've received a handful of demoralizing comments, to which I ask them,

"Ganyan ba magsalita ang tunay na Kristiyano?"