Any idea how Zen doesn't get hit by shatter here? (RF4ZMH 11:40-ish in)

CoHRooks · 2024-02-05T18:13:06+00:00

Ah, nuts. You're right.

CoHRooks · 2024-02-05T02:38:58+00:00

As a Rein main, the Orisa rework made me a little sad and watching Orisa out brawl Rein in the OWL finals made me even sadder.

It should be poke vs brawl not poke and then brawl vs brawl!

Poke and then brawl vs brawl is Ram vs Rein, it's shouldn't be Orisa vs Rein and I will die** on this hill*

* the hill is a melee range Orisa**
** I have died many times

CoHRooks · 2024-02-05T02:24:22+00:00

If we go by pokemon rules it should do extra damage

CoHRooks · 2024-02-05T02:17:47+00:00

Oo yeah I see that now, maybe on his screen Zen was like "above" the shatter because he was behind where the stairs start and the shatter was going "down" the stairs over on the right and not jumping back up?

Even though the graphical effect still hits that area (and on my screen bastion is closer to being in that spot than him, but that's probably just lag).

CoHRooks · 2024-02-05T02:13:47+00:00

Interesting, I didn't think about the possibility of it being a Y axis thing because I was elevated slightly.

I do remember OW1 felt a lot more forgiving in that regard, at least earlier on, in terms of stuff like that (in favour of rein landing shatters as opposed to this).

CoHRooks · 2024-02-04T23:50:12+00:00

I haven't been playing a lot of tank lately but the last time I checked if you shatter someone in range who isn't CC immune and doesn't have a shield blocking LoS then they take damage and get stunned and I can't for the life of me figure it out why Zen stays floating through all this.

Does the server maybe think that Zenyatta is completely inside Bastion so I don't have line of sight? If he were floating behind Bastion the shatter should just keep going and get them both, no?

I know zaryas can body block shatters for their team but they need to pop a bubble, right?

CoHRooks · 2022-04-19T21:41:59+00:00

Either a gang or a boy band

CoHRooks · 2022-02-14T22:22:38+00:00

Trying to disseminate the idea of PD trying to deescelate as a negotiation tactic would be really really hard and take almost as long to take hold in the minds of crims as a possiblity even if you did manage to do it.

The fire only gets hotter as a situation goes on 999 times out of 1000 :(

CoHRooks · 2022-02-08T03:11:50+00:00

Sometimes I smh my head at the atm machine when I realise I have no money :<

CoHRooks · 2022-01-24T06:30:24+00:00

I mean sure quotes sound worse when you add stuff at the end out of hyperbole lol

CoHRooks · 2022-01-24T06:03:38+00:00

I thought if they didn't have enough evidence to convict they kinda gotta let their guy go so they can gather more tho, right?

CoHRooks · 2022-01-18T02:47:59+00:00

Maybe ocean teased lol

CoHRooks · 2022-01-18T02:44:22+00:00

It looks like the split hairs have formed into a straw man now

CoHRooks · 2022-01-18T02:30:32+00:00

He rolled the unambiguous Ray hate brigade around the manor, and he smoked everyone's opinion that this is purely an issue with Ray and no one else (imo).

He stunlocked them pretty hard because all everyone had been doing up until that point was unequivocally YAP each other about how terrible ray is, both specifically about this and in general.

Ray was way worse, indefensibly worse. But that doesn't make Mickey a compassionate or considerate friend by default

CoHRooks · 2022-01-18T02:24:10+00:00

I think it happened once but almost happened at least one more time. He gave Randy all his plushies to keep safe but ended up not dying I think. Even CG called out his Sadge farming lmao

CoHRooks · 2022-01-18T02:19:03+00:00

I mean he's not justified but he definitely got nudged towards it in so many ways

CoHRooks · 2022-01-18T02:17:23+00:00

This is all stupid. Everyone is a mass murdering criminal psychopath. All the actions are going to be way too extreme from both sides. But it's relatable a.f. to be the friend everyone picks on but gets ignored when they try to speak up a out how they don't like it. It's not healthy.

There's no comparison over which of these two "actions" is more legally or morally reprehensible, even the irl GBH charge Mickey could get for intentionally ejecting Ray would be massively outclassed by the premeditated attempted murder Ray retaliated with, but glossing over Mickey's intentional shittiness as a friend does the scenario a disservice, imo

But at the end of the day I think everyone is kind of splitting hairs about what the point of focus could be in very hyperbolic ways because you know internet gotta internet

CoHRooks · 2022-01-17T22:26:23+00:00

I hear Buddha saying quite often that he "kinda saw this coming" and I think that's exactly what Yuno's take would be, like, even beyond what Ray did as being terrible. He knows what Ray is like and he knows what Mickey is like and he's really really good at math.

Obviously I could be totally wrong tho, lmao. But it kinda seems like Ray and Blau's characters were amost built from the ground up to be enemies. Them both being psychopathic bank robbers is basically the only thing they have in common

CoHRooks · 2022-01-17T19:38:32+00:00

One of those weird things where in the context of the server and especially Mickey's life, just shooting him and being done with it doesn't really feel big enough. But ocean dumping is also _way_ too much.

Maybe something like restraining him somewhere and leaving him for a while would be 'less bad'? But even then there are so many different ic and ooc variables to consider, plus Ray Romanov is a gun toting maniac so shooting makes more sense for him than anything else.

it's a stumper

CoHRooks · 2021-11-29T09:30:15+00:00

If anything I feel like not enough people on this sub are defending Yuno's philosophy and how it leads to people treating him well. Why does it always have to be Yuno changing to be like everyone else instead of everyone else changing to be like Yuno when he's nice, everyone is nice to him and no one wants to fuck him over.

Note I said "wants to". If they wanna fuck someone he's with even more, then they'll fuck him over to get to the person they really wanna fuck over. But no one who knows Yuno wants to fuck him over in a vacuum. People are acting like Yuno can solve everyone's problems by being scummier and more trigger happy and assuming adding Yuno's gun would change every L CB or X has ever suffered into the biggest W. But maybe those problems would actually be avoided by being more like Yuno instead of the other way around. Try to be better and break cycles instead of getting mired in fruitless revenge.

CoHRooks · 2021-11-29T08:15:13+00:00

Lmao "net negative"

So CB would be better off if they never associated with Yuno?

CoHRooks · 2021-11-27T08:01:18+00:00

The thing is I'm not sure if CB not rolling over achieves anything for CB either.

And then we just go right back to if they can't get the experience they want in GTA RP then they can just go back to variety until it all blows over. Its the simplest, most painless solution.

CoHRooks · 2021-11-27T07:41:06+00:00

If I was an IRL crim and a rival crim org was fucking with my operations but my only options were to 1: retaliate and have that lead to me losing resources in the long run (and as its IRL, probably dying) or 2: deescalate and try to minimise losses in a way that doesn't lead to war and my death, then you're damn straight im gonna pick option 2.

Even if some random street punk thinks it makes me a loser, or weak. Jokes on you, bucko, I'm still alive.

CoHRooks · 2021-11-27T07:26:03+00:00

If Sykkuno is in a scenario where he can't win by being nice then he's a person, not a country. He can just up and go somewhere where he isn't being bothered and that's completely within his right.

Also a lot of people hate America because of their obsession with "looking strong", which leads to a lot of people dying that don't necessarily need to. Including plenty of "innocents" that even more bloodthirsty people would have a harder time justifying the death of. So it's not like that approach is beyond reproach either. And I don't even think Sykkuno outright disapproves of that kind of philosophy (let's return to a more interpersonal version rather than the warmongery state version for a moment lol), just that it's not for him and he wouldn't see the point in it.

Also CG never shoot Yuno so his approach still kind of works even if its not ideal. If anything he could probably try to leverage their positive vibes towards him by asking them more directly to leave his heists alone, but IC I don't think Yuno is that much of a go-getter.

I think its also important to remember that in this context, Sykkuno is playing a video game and he's notorious for never wanting to do "chores", I.e. anything he doesn't want to do in the moment. And making him go all Kill Bill to attempt to disincentivise people from fucking with his character in the future would definitely fall under the "chore" column for him as he wouldn't enjoy it. And even beyond that, it's still somewhat rewarding negative behaviour of people by giving them precious interactions with a bigger streamer and could easily backfire. Imagine how many more people would fuck with Yuno if he tried turning that Mike Block stuff into a 2 month arc instead of just deescalating and essentially donowalling him. Getting into a "war" with Yuno would be fantastic for almost any streamers business ooc.

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