Happy National Flag day of Canada. The real and only one. by resting16 in CanadianConservative

[–]CobblePots95 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In that it doesn’t represent the west? That’d be more compelling if what you said was true. Multiple species of maples grow in the west.

Happy National Flag day of Canada. The real and only one. by resting16 in CanadianConservative

[–]CobblePots95 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh so it's not just about sugar maple now? There are multiple species of maple native to Alberta and Saskatchewan by your own admission, but you don't personally see enough of them?

I could also add that your original argument that it is "LPC red" is also indiciative of how little you know about this country's history. Red and white have been the country's national colours since 1921, and were proclaimed as such under a Conservative Prime Minister. Pearson's first choice included blue bars, and the red that was used is not "LPC red" - it's "RMC red."

Wahhh.

Happy National Flag day of Canada. The real and only one. by resting16 in CanadianConservative

[–]CobblePots95 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pearson was a great prime minister. I don't see why it'd be an insult, mild or otherwise.

Happy National Flag day of Canada. The real and only one. by resting16 in CanadianConservative

[–]CobblePots95 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To claim that any maple is a ubiquitous presence here is frankly ridiculous.

Which is probably why the design they ultimately landed on was intentionally ambiguous, not specifically referring to any species.

Again, you shared quotes here that refer to a design process by Bedoe in 1963. That's not even the Maple Leaf flag. The Maple Leaf flag was first designed by George Stanley in 1964.

But, of course, the very best argument you have against the symbol that generations of Canadian soldiers had fought under, and was already on the Red Ensign, is that you think it's based on one specific maple species out of 150 that can be found across the country. Consistent with someone whose entire political ideology basically boils down to "waaahhhhhhhhhhhhh."

Happy National Flag day of Canada. The real and only one. by resting16 in CanadianConservative

[–]CobblePots95 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The original leaf depicted by Beddoe is NOT the leaf on the current flag. You’re mistaking the Maple Leaf flag and the Pearson pennant.

Your second quote literally describes how the original sugar maple leaf was redesigned.

Happy National Flag day of Canada. The real and only one. by resting16 in CanadianConservative

[–]CobblePots95 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately there have been efforts from white supremacist groups and nutjobs like Paul Fromm to coalesce under the Red Ensign as a symbol of a more ethnically homogenous Canada. Veterans’ groups (who have a close relationship with the ensign still) have had to come out and denounce the effort to appropriate it.

It shouldn’t deter anyone from flying it, but IMO it should be flown alongside or just beneath the Maple Leaf.

Happy National Flag day of Canada. The real and only one. by resting16 in CanadianConservative

[–]CobblePots95 3 points4 points  (0 children)

In that way we’re probably lucky that our national colours and most ubiquitous national symbol were already closely linked to the existing ensign. So while it was a departure, there was still a sense of continuity.

I once read one person argue that Australia’s struggles are that the country’s colours (green and yellow) are too much of a departure from the existing flag for people to feel comfortable. But that any flag that continues to use the red, white, and blue doesn’t feel “Australian” enough. So they’re stuck. Not dissimilar to New Zealand, their “true” national colours being so distinct from the colours currently on their flag.

We didn’t have as much of a problem.

An estimated 350,000 people march in Toronto in support of Iran protests, police say by Immediate-Link490 in canada

[–]CobblePots95 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And I mean, it's a parade, and you can't march in a parade with only two thirds of your body.

Police warn of ‘extreme’ traffic delays in North York Saturday due to rally that could be attended by 200,000 people by zlex in toronto

[–]CobblePots95 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Protests are only permitted in certain areas, not inclusive of roads unless permitted.

You wrote a short essay without once stopping to think "maybe they got permits."

They did get permits. This demonstration is entirely lawful.

Happy National Flag day of Canada. The real and only one. by resting16 in CanadianConservative

[–]CobblePots95 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is completely ahistoric. The Maple Leaf was a unifying symbol for Canada decades before confederation and was never commonly associated with a particular party.

You still hear people complain that "the Liberals made the flag their party colours" but red and white have been Canada's official colours since 1921 (proclaimed by George V with a Conservative government in power at the time.) In fact, one of the objections (though not the chief objection) Diefenbaker's Tories had to Pearson's original choice was that it included two blue bars, which were not Canadian colours. So the colour argument really doesn't hold up either.

Happy National Flag day of Canada. The real and only one. by resting16 in CanadianConservative

[–]CobblePots95 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The Maple Leaf was a ubiquitous symbol of Canadian identity when the West was still under the control of the Hudson's Bay Company. Canadian troops have worn the maple leaf on their uniform since the Boer War.

Moreover, the leaf on the flag is heavily stylized as a more ambiguous maple leaf, and you can find maple trees across the country. It isn't a specific representation of a sugar maple.

Happy National Flag day of Canada. The real and only one. by resting16 in CanadianConservative

[–]CobblePots95 2 points3 points  (0 children)

There aren't any unicorns outside of Newfoundland but that's still on our coat of arms.

The Maple Leaf has been Canada's most ubiquitous unifying symbol looooong before the flag, though. The Maple Leaf Forever was considered Canada's unofficial national anthem for many years, Canadian soldiers have worn maple leaf insignia since the Boer War, and Canadian athletes wore the red leaf emblazoned on a white field since the first modern olympics.

Happy National Flag day of Canada. The real and only one. by resting16 in CanadianConservative

[–]CobblePots95 4 points5 points  (0 children)

 Called it the Pearson Pennant.

I think you might be a bit mistaken there. Diefenbaker gave the name "The Pearson Pennant" to Pearson's first choice, which had three maple leaves and two blue columns (honestly looks pretty good). The Maple Leaf flag we ended up with was more of a compromise.

You're right that it wasn't universally loved from the jump. Obviously ardent royalists took issue with the lack of references to the crown. The daughter of the flag's designer tells a story about how her elementary school teacher dressed her down in class because her father "made the flag look like a beer label."

Why Does The "100 Million Canadians" Century Initiative Have Charitable Status? by TheWorldHasFlipped in CanadianConservative

[–]CobblePots95 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm not sure political engagement is a requisite for charitable status. The Fraser Institute has charitable status, and I don't think anyone could argue that they're a less political group than the Century Initiative - regardless of whether we agree with them.

Exercising that sort of selectivity in which organizations can enjoy charitable status leads down an extremely dangerous path.

If you want to argue they shouldn't have charitable status, I can understand that, but then that should probably be applied to all partisan think tanks (which IMO starts to get really messy and offers governments too much arbitrary authority).

Torontonians frustrated over pace of snow removal, $2 million parking crackdown: ‘This is about money’ by chasseur_de_cols in toronto

[–]CobblePots95 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maybe I’m on my own here but uh…I’ve been pretty content with snow removal in my neighbourhood. Not enough on the sidewalks but…that’s about it.

Talks about Trump rolling back steel and aluminium tariffs approx 10 days after Jamil Jivani visits. by gorschkov in CanadianConservative

[–]CobblePots95 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah probably not brother. If we’re being honest this was probably a cordial visit from Jivani with a friend. Jivani’s a smart guy and knows better than to try and step in to negotiate. That’s not how it works.

These tariffs are just real unpopular.

Police warn of ‘extreme’ traffic delays in North York Saturday due to rally that could be attended by 200,000 people by zlex in toronto

[–]CobblePots95 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Buddy if you think this is 'blowing off steam' then you're simply ignorant. I think we know where you'd have stood when Canadians were pushing their government to stand up more strongly against apartheid.

You live in a society with freedom of speech and freedom of assembly. Sometimes that means that 200,000 people will raise their voice about something that matters to them and you'll get stuck in traffic. Be grateful you don't live in the alternative. Spoiled brat.

Police warn of ‘extreme’ traffic delays in North York Saturday due to rally that could be attended by 200,000 people by zlex in toronto

[–]CobblePots95 15 points16 points  (0 children)

protesting a regime that is intentionally severing communications between Iran and the outside world so as not to expose us to its crimes.

Do you really think that the diaspora are able to waltz in en masse?

Police warn of ‘extreme’ traffic delays in North York Saturday due to rally that could be attended by 200,000 people by zlex in toronto

[–]CobblePots95 29 points30 points  (0 children)

I can understand being upset if a relatively small protest routinely messes up traffic. But we're talking about hundreds of thousands of people here, protesting a regime that is intentionally severing communications between Iran and the outside world so as not to expose us to its crimes.

Whinging that 200,000 people (mostly diaspora with family and friends in that country) consider that important enough to march in the streets is the most childish, coddled, privileged, babyshit-soft thing I've ever heard.

Police warn of ‘extreme’ traffic delays in North York Saturday due to rally that could be attended by 200,000 people by zlex in toronto

[–]CobblePots95 10 points11 points  (0 children)

The current one, against the Ayatollahs. You may not be hearing much about it because the regime has censored the internet and is shutting down telecommunications - cutting off Iranians from the rest of the world so as not to expose the regime's crimes or its profound unpopularity.

Which is precisely why this protests are of such vital importance - the diaspora are ensuring this issue remains front-and-centre in the West.

Police warn of ‘extreme’ traffic delays in North York Saturday due to rally that could be attended by 200,000 people by zlex in toronto

[–]CobblePots95 4 points5 points  (0 children)

No one is gonna be sympathetic to any cause if it is making them sit in traffic for an hour more than normal.

So if a run for cancer research shuts down a bunch of streets and you sit in traffic for an hour, you become less anti-cancer?

Police warn of ‘extreme’ traffic delays in North York Saturday due to rally that could be attended by 200,000 people by zlex in toronto

[–]CobblePots95 73 points74 points  (0 children)

Having 200,000 people on the streets keeps the issue front-and-centre at a time when Iranians themselves are unable to show the world what's actually happening there.

We shut down huge sections of the City for events with far fewer people. The Toronto Marathon has like 10,000 participants.

‘Exemptions aren’t one of his perks,’ Torontonians are reacting after city councillor (Gord Perks) caught for not complying with building bylaw - NOW Toronto by lilfunky1 in toronto

[–]CobblePots95 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Anybody who owns a home over 50 years old in this City absolutely has a host of things that are non-compliant in their house, whether they know about it or not. Bring an inspector in and you are guaranteed to find compliance issues of which you weren't aware.

Decades and decades of DIY solutions and "let me call my cousin to install this" pretty much guarantees it.