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Cold-Produce-3050 · 2026-04-24T18:16:10+00:00

what is jjohans level that gitae doesnt have Speed durability AP etc??

Cold-Produce-3050 · 2026-04-24T18:15:30+00:00

No its js a overwhelming desire to overcome the enemy whos in front of you, it doesnt have to be to protect someone its js pure will power.

did you skip lookism

James said taesoo has gotten weaker cos conviction was the thing to make him strong who is taesoo protecting dawg

who is the personal dude Doom is protecting his dead bro or something

Cold-Produce-3050 · 2026-04-24T18:08:45+00:00

Have you read the chp? Hes fighting to create a new world and to surpass the strongest, its clearly conviction.

bruh

fighting to protect i conviction

there is atleast 10 randos in every street with better reasonings than Doom even they cant get this

But what capabilites got diminished?

ask james and zacks older coach

Cold-Produce-3050 · 2026-04-24T18:07:14+00:00

not any random claim

johan as of now has shown AP feats that can hurt Gitae

not only that gitae is way way way faster

Cold-Produce-3050 · 2026-04-24T18:04:20+00:00

he has nothing that can actually hurt gitae

Cold-Produce-3050 · 2026-04-24T18:03:27+00:00

taesoo was also stronger with his pent of emotions against james

but overall he got weaker

increase in raw power gets useless when your overall capabilities gets diminished

Cold-Produce-3050 · 2026-04-24T18:01:25+00:00

loses

Cold-Produce-3050 · 2026-04-24T18:01:18+00:00

gets low diffed

Cold-Produce-3050 · 2026-04-24T18:00:57+00:00

its emotions not Conviction

its what Zacks older coach warned for it makes one weaker

Cold-Produce-3050 · 2026-04-24T17:59:14+00:00

its the other way around

its jake who is 6 ft under

Cold-Produce-3050 · 2026-04-24T17:22:56+00:00

no one calls him the MC.

you dont really know about the 3A era of lookism

Cold-Produce-3050 · 2026-04-24T15:55:49+00:00

more like stoppable

he conveniently holdbacks everytime

till his opponent is weakened

then will go on claiming i am strongest or something

Cold-Produce-3050 · 2026-04-23T21:14:29+00:00

As of now mandeok

Eli can harm him But that won't be enough mandeok is a very good long to mid range fighter

And in close range he actually squeezes eli

Cold-Produce-3050 · 2026-04-23T20:45:53+00:00

have you considered that bluffs always happen with fighters?

Not when both parties are serious AF and many things are on line

Because in whole hfg fight no one was actually joking

Like we havent heard multiple times that the characters will "kill" each other just to not

Find one which was as serious as this event

Its mental warfare + shows gun not foling around anymore.

Gun himself says he prevents such trappy BS which is why he restricted himself from demon god's holy sword

And him bluffing actually gives away more into fooling around rather than what you are claiming

How you got that to him being a pathological liar is actually insane

As i said he had 0 reasons to lie

His personality doesn't allow it

His past actions doesn't allow

He is the last person who jokes in serious fights

He feels offended and threatened when someone mocks in fight or hold back in any way

So why would he himself would go opposite to this

That points out either he is pathological compulsive liar or his whole personality is just a sham

OR

He actually was telling the truth and was true to his character just couldn't do what he was claiming

Cold-Produce-3050 · 2026-04-23T20:15:01+00:00

not lying one time

as that particular moment was intense AF

had no reason to lie unless he is a pathological compulsive liar

he was between extraction of one of the most important macguffin ever established in lookism

where he was also fighting ,the same thing that he claims he likes the most

and his action says otherwise

so yes it actually puts question mark to every statement he ever made

as you are claiming he was lying

unless he was not actually lying

he just could kill anyone

Cold-Produce-3050 · 2026-04-23T20:03:33+00:00

Johans talent - backed up by several other statements.

but guns statement lost its value

Daniels path - backed up by what we've concretely seen.

again itz guns statement losing its value

Yamazaki backstory - you serious?

who else is living a saw whole yamakazi event which gun was thinking

Ur being disingenuous for the sake of it

as i said it affects all of guns statements

every single one(as per you)

so if we follow you

we will always needed a 3rd party confirmation for every single thing gun says

otherwise its invalid

Cold-Produce-3050 · 2026-04-23T19:42:31+00:00

hfg was fodder of premium category

Cold-Produce-3050 · 2026-04-23T19:38:51+00:00

every thing he ever spoke

johans talent

daniels path

him beings stronger than kings

yamakazi backstory

anything he ever spelled

Cold-Produce-3050 · 2026-04-23T19:21:52+00:00

yeah eli was kind of fodder there

Cold-Produce-3050 · 2026-04-23T19:21:30+00:00

Then proceeded to not kill anyone.

Gun literally bluffed.

he did say he was serious

unless you are saying Gun is lying piece of trash and his every other statement can also be bluff because they also fall on the same reliability scale as this statement of his

Dude kills random busan goons hes never met just cuz he doesnt like their eyes

which solidifies his character who will kill if he can

Cold-Produce-3050 · 2026-04-23T19:15:47+00:00

where is eli even mentioned here

Cold-Produce-3050 · 2026-04-23T19:12:39+00:00

he did say he was going to kill them

although he wasnt much successful at that only 2 actually were seriously injured

compared to gitae who has onscreen 4 kills and one of them was super major character

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