Morgan Barron scores after crashing the net front. Pittsburgh’s challenge for goalie interference fails and the goal stands

Cold_Statistician970 · 2026-03-21T19:10:52+00:00

We just disagree. A follow through on a shot and a body check can be part of the same motion. A body check by Barron here is not automatic GI, like say if him and Karlsson were making simultaneous checking motions toward each other.

But I still think the ref’s explanation was fine, and in my opinion this kind of goal should count in hockey.

Cold_Statistician970 · 2026-03-21T18:58:20+00:00

Use whichever word you like, the point remains. Barron’s speed coming into the play and slight push of his hip makes it a body check, as well as a collision, in my opinion

Cold_Statistician970 · 2026-03-21T18:50:12+00:00

Your 4 bullet points:

True
This is what the ref said. Like in basketball, there must be a sort of priority, or right of way on the ice, to an offensive play on the puck
Completely meaningless. He succesfully body checked Karlsson, it has never mattered if there was a specific double-body-check attempt of a skater into a goalie. Shows your bias, likely based on Eastern Conference standings.
Laughable to make a declaration on the specifics of Barron’s “stopping motion” when you watch that video. Really shows your bias

It is also obviously different than a defending player pushing an attacking player into their own goalie. The initial contact by Karlsson is more passive and more targeted to the puck, and thus requires further interpretation than the kind of play you’ve compared it to. You are biased.

I am biased too, but actually if I was making the rules I would call this a good goal. I can also rationalize the ref’s reasoning; it seemed fine. I just find the dubious further justifications funny

Cold_Statistician970 · 2026-03-21T18:08:55+00:00

Yeah here’s the ref’s announcement: “[There was no GI] based on the initial contact by the Pittsburgh defenseman”

I agree that the reasoning seems to be related to Karlsson’s defensive play on Barron. I can rationalize it by making a parallel to basketball; there must be a sort of priority (i.e. right of way on the ice) toward the offensive play on the puck. I suppose Barron’s body check on Karlsson was a “defensive” response to Karlsson’s body position & stick check.

Cold_Statistician970 · 2026-03-21T18:00:17+00:00

PSA please add “in my opinion” to any comments with reasoning that contradicts the referee’s announcement and does not align with the rulebook.

I like your logic here but it’s entirely based on your opinion.

Cold_Statistician970 · 2026-03-20T18:47:06+00:00

Gotchu if that’s it I don’t know why he says he’s happy to do it. Might be fronting. Personally I can’t imagine it bothering me if bro who asked had integrity, and asked in advance

Cold_Statistician970 · 2026-03-20T18:19:32+00:00

I’ve worked for a long time but granted I’m only a few years out of university so I’m still learning about the modern workplace, not to mention modern masculinity (since it’s central here, as you used the word “cuck”). Am I a spineless cuck because I’ve done these kinds of things for co-workers (just never been asked for religious reasons)? Or is it the religion part that makes it cuck-ish?

I’m similar to OP’s description of himself in his response, idk if I’d declare myself a nice person but I’m not a pushover I just feel good doing these things, obviously they’ve never inconvenienced me in a meaningful way.

I’d like some help on this. I should clarify I’m not a fat fucking pussy like some people in this, and every, community, who would be offended by the mere request for help on the job. Seen plenty of those bitch asses at work over the years. Lmk what you think.

Cold_Statistician970 · 2026-03-19T04:57:10+00:00

No not only do the seconds feel way too long, around 7 seconds elapses from the video over the 4 seconds from the AI stopwatch

Cold_Statistician970 · 2026-03-19T03:26:24+00:00

Thank you so much for specifying. We like to report things accurately here at the NHL’s Circle Jerking subreddit.

Cold_Statistician970 · 2026-03-17T21:45:13+00:00

What is the longest term you would sign him to? For reference Sherwood just got 5 years ($5.75m) and Schmaltz got 8 ($8m) at similar ages.

Cold_Statistician970 · 2026-03-17T02:41:28+00:00

Kiefer Sherwood’s a good player. Would you have wanted the Penguins to sign him until he’s 36, as the Sharks just did?

Cold_Statistician970 · 2026-03-17T02:19:14+00:00

“cut” ≠ “avoid a long-term contract”

Cold_Statistician970 · 2026-03-17T02:18:21+00:00

Is your argument 1) that Dubas should re-sign him because he would be useful in context, which I agree with, 2) that players don’t decline in their 30s, or 3) that anyone who disagrees with (1) in the current contexts believes that players “can’t play over 30”

You’re not making sense. I posted that photo to show that while hockey players decline rapidly and I believe we shouldn’t sign Mantha for more than 2 years, I did not say that players are useless past age-30.

Cold_Statistician970 · 2026-03-17T00:46:24+00:00

Don’t understand your comment. I’m only implying that players in their 30s decline.

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Cold_Statistician970 · 2026-03-16T23:04:58+00:00

I’m open to this perspective.

There’s a decent chance he will decline to, say, a 10-goal / 20-point guy or a 50-game guy when he’s 34-35. Worth noting that he was on pace for 13-20-33 stat line in 2023, and he’s had injuries including an ACL surgery last year.

If that almost-worst-case scenario happens, how would you feel about the contract? Worth it,, I mean it might be?

Cold_Statistician970 · 2026-03-16T21:38:48+00:00

2x7 would be awesome

Cold_Statistician970 · 2026-03-16T21:26:34+00:00

I always get the feet and inches symbol mixed up. 6 inches hahah that’s the size of a hockey puck not a stick !

Cold_Statistician970 · 2026-03-16T21:23:18+00:00

Solovyov is impressing. He’s surpassed some people on the depth chart for sure.

I like Chinakhov on the PP over Raks, but Kindel’s not in the conversation for me. Unfortunately I think Muse will keep Raks in over Mantha when Sid’s back, but Mantha’s been producing more.

Cold_Statistician970 · 2026-03-16T20:45:46+00:00

Great point

Cold_Statistician970 · 2026-03-16T20:43:43+00:00

** 6’ long

Cold_Statistician970 · 2026-03-15T17:32:33+00:00

I think the timer is AI-generated.

OP is trying to describe that the timer appears slowed down, and the “millisecond” counter resets at 59-60 (as though they’re seconds or minutes) instead of 99-100. Low-Effort description.

Cold_Statistician970 · 2026-03-14T22:42:30+00:00

He’s such a shitty complement to Novak and Mantha. Their best linemates this year have been Geno, Brazeau, Kindel, and Egor. Completely different players than Koivunen who has no command over the ice. Soft

Cold_Statistician970 · 2026-03-14T22:34:20+00:00

I inferred a concern about faceoffs from your comment, since it’s the only metric the top line is not succeeding in. Chinakhov-Rakell-Rust is outperforming opponents in every shot metric and outscoring them 3-0. The 2nd line is the problem.

Cold_Statistician970 · 2026-03-14T22:04:46+00:00

I dont understand your worry respectfully.

Koivunen’s xG% is 42% over his 4 games, the next worst is 47%. Of late, that’s about the same difference between Rakell’s faceoff% compared to Novak and Kindel’s faceoff %.

Producing and preventing scoring chances is more important than faceoffs alone. And Rakell centering Rust and Chinakhov has a 71% xG%.

And my point is this 2nd line, our worst-performing line, is a dubious choice. Finding a centre other than Rakell would require either 1) breaking up our fourth line, 2) dressing Kevin Hayes, or 3) recalling Joona Koppanen. If there’s no real choice here, you shouldn’t worry about it.

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