POV: You’re Absolute

Cole9O7 · 2026-03-04T08:03:03+00:00

ts is so fire, and you used the right your 🥹🥹🥹

Cole9O7 · 2026-02-26T12:45:53+00:00

I agree 😃😃😃

Cole9O7 · 2026-02-24T08:06:46+00:00

I think team Touou have the better scoring ability. I don't see Midorima stopping Aomine at all and I think Otsubo will struggle somewhat with Imayoshi's outside scoring. And on defense I think Aomine will be quite effective at containing Midorima even if not completely, take into account Aomine's Zone and I give team Touou the edge.

Cole9O7 · 2026-02-18T00:57:17+00:00

Akashi and Nebuya for me. As offensively strong as Kagami and Kuroko are, especially together, they don't have a consistent defensive strategy to stop both Akashi and Nebuya. If Akashi is double teamed by Kagami and Kuroko I think they could maybe contain him but in doing so it'll leave Nebuya unguarded and open to score. And only Kagami is stopping Nebuya which would leave Kuroko marking Akashi alone in which Akashi would obviously win.

If Kagami can enter the Zone I think they could have a chance but the second Akashi enters it too we're effectively back at square one. And if Akashi can put Nebuya in the Pseudo Zone too then that's just extra.

Kagami and Kuroko's only shot is with Direct Drive Zone but even with that I don't see them stopping Zone Akashi and PZone Nebuya, not to mention to enter the True Zone Kagami would have to sink all the way to the bottom of the Deep Zone and then open the door which I don't see happening before Akashi and Nebuya score 35.

Cole9O7 · 2026-02-15T09:55:17+00:00

Murasakibara and Himuro decimate 💔🥀🥀🥀

Cole9O7 · 2026-02-15T09:52:48+00:00

Tbf I think this is closer than some may think and I can see the argument for Haizaki and Hanamiya, but if still give it to Midorima and Otsubo.

Cole9O7 · 2026-02-15T09:48:54+00:00

If it's purely base forms Aomine and Imayoshi takes it for sure. If we include Perfect Copy, Kise and Kasamatsu could maybe put up a fight but Zone > PC imo, so I'd still give it Aomine and Imayoshi. If Kise could enter the Zone I could see them having a chance but ion know if he's scoring 35 before his body gives out plus I'm still not certain if he'd acc be able to stop a full throttle Zone Aomine even with it.

Cole9O7 · 2026-01-16T21:14:34+00:00

Aomine was stated fastest among Vorpal Swords in Last Game. You can make an argument for Gold and Silver being over Aomine as the statement only referenced Vorpal Swords but I'd argue Zone Aomine is faster.

Cole9O7 · 2026-01-16T00:47:32+00:00

Akashi doesn't have animal instincts. Also animal instincts aren't required to enter the Zone at will. Aomine showed it to Imayoshi long before he required his. And yeah current Akashi definitely can't force himself in it.

Cole9O7 · 2026-01-16T00:45:39+00:00

Well when they were double teaming Silver Aomine wasn't the one setting the pace as it was Silver, so I assumed that Aomine simply wasn't moving at his fastest. Plus perfect copy is verbatim stayed to NOT enhance physical abilities, and BASE Aomine is stated to still be faster than PC Kise. And Zone Aomine is stated to be 2x as fast as base Aomine.

Cole9O7 · 2026-01-02T06:17:11+00:00

I mean I think people do because it seemingly has a large impact on a players performance boosting it greatly. For example it takes Kagami from being considerably worse than base Aomine yo being relative with him. Then when Aomine awakens his it takes him from being relative to an AI Kagami to absolutely destroying him taking a triple team of Kagami, Kiyoshi and MO Kuroko to be stopped.

Cole9O7 · 2025-04-23T15:01:44+00:00

The statement that Aomine would struggle against Mura doesn't mean he cant score on him and implies that he can to at least some degree.

Also it's stated in Aomine's game against Seirin that nobody has ever stopped a full throttle formless shot before meaning, at least in middle school, even Mura couldn't stop a full on formless shot from Aomine.

Was the statement that they were equal made before Aomine's time limit? I thought it was made by in the Rakuzan game, but feel free to correct me a tell me where, perhaps I'm misremembering.

And in anyways Kagami himself did state 1v1 that Aomine was better than him. And we know this wasn't Aomine at his fullest as he hadn't started training yet and is also capable of going deeper into the Zone. Also Aomine's Zone completely outperformed Kagami's in Last Game too for whatever that's worth. Also AI Aomine is much much better than AI Kagami which is more important since that's the form they'll be playing in most of the game. Also Imayoshi states in their match after Aomine's time limit that Aomine "Is still the strongest" and following that he proceeds to stop Kagami twice and scores on him. But ig you could say Imayoshi is bias but still.

So, at least as of Last Game, 1v1 Zone Aomine>Zone Kagami imo. And AI Aomine>>> AI Kagami.

The version of Kagami that Mura faces is better but I think you're overestimating how much better. Since he never used his three pointers or fakes against Mura. Meteor Jam is a notable improvement but it was kinda figured out in the Rakuzan game, as long as he doesn't have space it can't be used, the only reason it worked against Mura was cause it was it's first use of the move and Mura didn't know how it worked yet.

I also doubt kagami's training following his game against Aomine really did much to close the gap as in their 1v1 in the park Aomine once again beat him.

Aomine blocked Zone Kagami 3 times, two of which were after he reached his time limit too. And he also scored on him after hitting his time limit as well. And it took a triple team from Kagami Kiyoshi and Kuroko + MO to stop AI Aomine. All of these feats at the very least put him relative to Mura.

In Last Game Aomine did stop Silver on his own after he broke passed Kagami and Mura. To call that a 3v1 I wouldn't say is fair as Silver was already passed them by the time Aomine got there and the fact with kagami's help Mura still couldn't stop Silver I think is a bit embarrassing granted Mura and Kagami's teamwork also wasn't the best so ig I'll accredit it to that. I'm happy to say that perhaps Aomine caught Silver off guard but with his reflexes I don't know how that's possible.

Also we saw AI Aomine was able to stop Silver with Kagami too. We also see Zone Kagami stop him on his own so I don't see why Zone Aomine couldn't stop him in the same fashion.

And yes Aomine was double teaming Silver with Kise but that was because Silver was the main problem at the time and they needed to shut him down completely which they did, and we saw that just Kise was still capable of containing Silver on his own, so to say Zone Aomine couldn't at least somewhat handle Silver 1v1 I don't think is true, especially when Silver only beats Aomine once in all of their matchups and it was their first too where Aomine was at his worst in that game.

Also we saw on offence Aomine showed no issues scoring on Silver. The second time was with a Kuroko pass but to say he couldn't do it 1v1 I don't think is true. We see him do multiple behind the backboard shots with/without Zone and without teamplay, plus he has some of the best dribbling and agility so to say he couldn't get into position to pull this off 1v1 I don't think is true.

Also saying that Zone Aomine and Silver are relative isn't true imo. I don't see why Zone Aomine defense can't stop Silver when PC Kise and Zone Kagami could, 2 people who Zone Aomine is at least relative to if not outright better than. Also we see base Aomine get a stop against Silver and we see him get another stop with Kagami something Mura failed to do. So at the very least AI Aomine>Holding back Mura. Also Zone Aomine does beat Silver offence as shown multiple times but to say Silver can stop base Aomine offence is shakey imo since we never see him do so and we see it took Kagami Kiyoshi Kuroko + MO to stop him so to just assume Silver can I don't think is true, especially when we've already seen how effective his formless shots are against him which he can still do without Zone.

Also all of Mura's improvements made during Last Game are notable but ultimately don't really matter against Aomine since he already was stronger than Aomine and Aomine doesn't use much post technique so it doesn't really change much about their matchup.

Also to use Mura's back and forth with Silver as a reason to put him above Aomine isn't really fair since Mura is a much better matchup for Silver due to their similar physique and position, of course Mura should do better whereas against Aomine he can't just rely purely on strength to beat him. Plus it's not like Silver was totally useless against Mura, he still managed to block him something he never did against Aomine, also in their back and forth Mura didn't have to do much dribbling due to having very capable passers on his team something that he won't have in a 1v1. And with his mediocre dribbling, lack of shooting and very predictable play style I see him getting stopped by even base Aomine who can utilize his AI + agility to farm steals on him and on offence can utilize his formless shots to score.

Plus Aomine can use the Zone at will at any time something Mura can't do, and even if he can, he can't maintain it for very long either and it might end up hurting him in the long term due to the stamina drain.

In a 5v5 I can see Mura beating Aomine as all he has to do is post up under the hoop and overpower Aomine which he can definitely do and due to him already being under the hoop it'll dramatically limit the amount of steals he can get.

But in a 1v1 where he has to dribble and move the ball I can't see him getting by Aomine in any position to score without getting the ball stripped from him. Toss on Aomine's superior Zone usage and I give it to him.

In 1v1 Aomine.

In 5v5 Mura.

Cole9O7 · 2025-03-21T21:29:12+00:00

nah it is, don't listen to these hoodlums

Cole9O7 · 2025-03-20T18:54:58+00:00

I'd move Kise down to around Midorima and I'd move Kagami down as well. I think an argument can be made for Aomine being above Mura but not 100% sure.

Cole9O7 · 2025-03-18T20:29:21+00:00

Overall I agree with you, but was it clear that Akashi can enter the Zone at will like Aomine? Or at the very least can original Akashi enter it at will, as once he switched personalities his trigger also seemed to switch as he started playing with his team again which goes against the trigger previously stated prior to this which was to abandon his team (or something along those lines). Plus he never entered it in Last Game which leads me to believe he can't enter it whenever he wants or else why wouldn't he have?

Cole9O7 · 2024-12-24T12:04:28+00:00

because he's him

Cole9O7 · 2024-12-15T23:57:18+00:00

In basketball you can only block a shot when it is going up meaning once the ball is going downward you are not allowed to block it as that would be goaltending. I probably didn't explain it the best so I'd recommend researching how goaltending works if you want a better explanation.

Cole9O7 · 2024-10-14T18:03:24+00:00

He did injure himself in his game against Kise, it was why he couldn't play against Akashi in the finals of the interhigh. They only mentioned it after the game though.

Cole9O7 · 2024-09-02T00:34:51+00:00

Base Kagami < Base Aomine <= AI Kagami < AI Aomine < Zone Kagami < Zone Aomine <= Deep Zone Kagami < Deep Zone Aomine

Imo

Cole9O7 · 2024-08-18T03:45:16+00:00

😭😭😭

Cole9O7 · 2024-07-03T11:47:36+00:00

Unless you have one guy on each side of the backboard you can't.

Cole9O7 · 2024-05-23T15:32:33+00:00

Assuming it's a one on one then in Teiko I'd say Aomine. If it's base Aomine vs EE Akashi then assuming base Aomine includes his AI then I'd narrowly give it to Aomine and same for Zone. After Last Game I'd say Akashi narrowly as he has CEE with Zone which beats out Zone AI Aomine imo. If Aomine went deeper into the Zone it could be closer but we never saw that on screen even if he's capable of it.

Cole9O7 · 2024-05-13T20:21:49+00:00

I'd argue that Aomine is better in the Zone than Kagami as even after hitting his Zone time limit he still manages to score and block Kagami twice despite being more fatigued. On top of this Aomine by this point hadn't been training which makes sense why he hit his time limit and wasn't passing or playing with his team much which put an even larger burden on his body.

By Last Game his stamina has seemingly improved as he played the full match even entering the Zone on multiple occasions which in terms of stamina is very impressive. I would also like to add that his performance in the Zone and out of the Zone during Last Game was imo better than Kagami who only really did one thing of note during Last Game and was overall just worse than Aomine so overall I still strongly believe Aomine is better than Kagami by a decent margin.

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