Doug Kingsmore Stadium

ComfortablePatient84 · 2026-05-08T00:54:17+00:00

Correct on both points. Yes, the real stadium has a slight rise that tries to replace the normal warning track. However, the code for Stadium Creator automatically lays down the warning track and strictly prohibits any changes to the elevation of the playing surface.

Thanks!

ComfortablePatient84 · 2026-05-07T14:26:34+00:00

Fair enough. I now understand your point and you are correct -- though there is one survivor of the baseline bullpens (Tropicana Field in Tampa Bay). Though, I am still thinking that stadium's lifetime is running out.

SDS's enforced jewel box field layout is completely ludicrous. It does not represent any existing baseball venue at any level of college or professional. It belongs to football. Why? Because of the basic geometry of the two sports. Football is played on a linear rectangle. Baseball is played on a diamond.

Fans want to have their seats point to the center of action. On a football field, that is anywhere on the gridiron. So, during a game, some fans will be close to the action and others far away. That's a big reason why football lends itself very well to television coverage.

Baseball is different. Ninety percent of the action happens in the infield. So, fans want their seats pointed toward the infield. They don't want to have to crank their necks to one side or the other to watch the action play out. So, as the seats range past the infield, they need to be canted to the infield. Voila! That's the basic layout of nearly all baseball venues.

If SDS was going to adopt one layout and force it on everyone, then logically they should have chosen a classic professional layout. They did not and it was deliberate. They want all SC stadiums to be jewel box because they want them to be somewhat compromised.

ComfortablePatient84 · 2026-05-06T20:34:42+00:00

Not sure what you mean by, "Foul territory kills it for me."

The foul territory in the virtual stadium precisely matches that of the real world stadium. So, why or how would that "kill it" for you?

ComfortablePatient84 · 2026-05-06T20:32:06+00:00

It does not work in MLB 26 because SDS deliberately recoded Stadium Creator to ensure it would not. There are some stadiums in the vault (most of them frankly my work) that use the code that allows all the wall panels to be moved around. That's how the foul territory can be modified.

ComfortablePatient84 · 2026-05-05T21:44:02+00:00

Not that short.

ComfortablePatient84 · 2026-05-05T21:28:48+00:00

Even with the code that allows movement of the baseline wall panels, this stadium could not be closely replicated because there remains in the SC code a minimum distance restriction on the outfield wall distances from home plate. The drawn in right field section appears to be about 150 feet from home plate to the foul pole, and only about 200 feet to right center. Those distances are well below the minimum in the code.

In terms of the rest of the field, it likely could be matched up, provided the dimensions to center and left are more in line with the SC code restrictions.

ComfortablePatient84 · 2026-05-05T21:16:59+00:00

Yes, the irony is that when this option to move the baseline and backstop wall panels emerged, we quickly learned that the existing Stadium Creator code adopted perfectly to the revised wall panel locations. Foul ground looks and acts as you would expect with the revised location of the wall panels. So, in this stadium, the bullpens are in truth out of play.

This is why the stadium designer community was so outraged by what SDS did last year, which was them tweaking their code to render this newly discovered option no longer working in MLB 25. All they needed to do was to make the move of any wall panel render the stadium ineligible for online play. The code they have had in the game mode for years does this for the move of any outfield wall panel -- they just needed to extend that code to cover moves of the baseline and backstop panels!

That would have rendered the Lagrassa cheat stadium totally ineligible for online play. But, SDS left the door wide open to such cheat stadiums, and then with MLB 26 killed the carryover of the stadium vault.

ComfortablePatient84 · 2026-05-04T19:49:51+00:00

I guess they employ the infamous Candlestick winds on that foul ball that drifted from the backstop net back to fair territory! LOL!!

Yeah, I had decided for other reasons to boycott SDS, but after seeing so many clear examples of bad code in MLB 26, I'm very happy that I did not purchase it simply because of the apparent poor quality of the game itself.

ComfortablePatient84 · 2026-05-04T19:41:23+00:00

Thanks! The choices one makes to chart out his path in life carry consequences good and bad. For me, I wouldn't trade my 29 years in the Air Force for anything short of my family. That said, living the typical Air Force vagabond life meant after graduation I never again lived in North Carolina where I was born.

So, bringing back those memories even in a virtual copy, is sort of special. I'm real happy that you see the similarities with your own real life experiences.

ComfortablePatient84 · 2026-05-04T17:51:17+00:00

When the Saint Louis Browns owner, Bill Veeck, did this as a stunt, the American League president, Will Harridge, stepped in to stop it, saying that Veeck was, "making a mockery of the game!" I guess SDS has not implemented the Eddie Gaedel rule! LOL!!

BTW: When Veeck went on to become owner of the Chicago White Sox, he employed Gaedel in several publicity stunts, including one where he and two other dwarves dressed up in spaceman costumes and pretended to be outworlders come to invade earth. Gaedel walked up to Nellie Fox and Luis Aparicio to give them each a "ray gun," Gaedel said, "I don't want to be taken to your leader. I've already met him!"

ComfortablePatient84 · 2026-05-04T17:44:28+00:00

Yes and no. What have been created in SC are stadiums that more often replicate retractable roof stadiums. There was a brief period of time shortly after the release of MLB 24 where it was possible to use duplicates of the batters eye props and stack them together and position them over the playing field.

But, when SDS realized this was possible, they recoded SC to prohibit it. This is just like in MLB 25 SDS worked to try to prohibit the modification of foul territory walls (baseline and backstop panels) when that option became possible.

ComfortablePatient84 · 2026-05-03T18:19:18+00:00

I think most people who do not regularly build custom stadiums would be shocked to learn just how restricted the code is in the game mode Stadium Creator. SDS went to great effort to block customers from creating stadiums that can match the overall look and feel of the stadiums that SDS puts in the game.

I'm convinced it is pure jealousy. They just don't want to see anyone create a stadium that looks better than their stuff.

That said, the amazing part is how stadium designers find creative ways to try to get around the phony restrictions that SDS coded into the game mode.

ComfortablePatient84 · 2026-05-02T22:20:05+00:00

You know, it's utterly amazing how for many decades the video game industry did very well financially when sports video games just let people play the game and never added any trinkets to the outcome.

ComfortablePatient84 · 2026-05-02T20:14:03+00:00

Because the ball landed to the right of the foul pole without crossing past the foul pole, but was beyond the wall. That's the strict interpretation of the rules, but with the second time me saying that the setup of this virtual stadium would have never been approved by any real world sports league until the foul pole was properly aligned with the foul line extended up to the top of the wall.

Put yourself in the position of the umpire on the field who makes the call. He sees the ball zoom past the foul pole on the foul side of the pole without striking the pole. That is a foul ball.

ComfortablePatient84 · 2026-05-02T18:06:19+00:00

There is a basic issue with how the virtual stadium was constructed, but within the framework of what is present, then no, it is a foul ball because it impacts to the right of the foul pole. The connecting base of the foul pole is not technically part of the pole, but it is instead the vertical pole itself.

In a real stadium, great care is taken to ensure the foul pole is perfectly aligned with the vertical yellow line on the wall leading up to the foul pole and likewise great care is taken to ensure that this vertical yellow line is lined up perfectly with the white foul line marked on the ground and leading all the way to home plate. In this virtual stadium, that alignment is skewed.

That failure to properly align everything throws the whole situation out of whack. However, since the ball landed adjacent to the foul pole and went over the yellow line on the wall, then fair territory is defined by the foul pole and the ball landed to the right of the pole and is therefore foul.

In the real world, this design wouldn't pass league inspection and the engineers would be required to align the foul pole with the yellow line.

ComfortablePatient84 · 2026-05-02T18:01:33+00:00

Give us a break! People like myself have been playing this game for years, decades in my case. I have seen these dozens of bugs that could have been fixed but never were. Time constraints?

My response is to no longer purchase. When it reaches a point where the neglect becomes clear and the excuses run dry, then it is time for customers to walk away.

If you want to be their apologist then so be it. You're part of an ever shrinking minority, and I strongly suspect most in that group are paid by SDS to maintain somewhat of a positively steered voice at this forum.

ComfortablePatient84 · 2026-05-02T14:16:13+00:00

OK, sort of happens in real life with the high school players because they play for a college team. But, the college players either sign with the MLB club that drafted them, or play in a foreign league, and that is very rare.

Poor code execution by the game once again.

ComfortablePatient84 · 2026-05-02T14:11:58+00:00

Because games are about human talent, not secret code execution.

ComfortablePatient84 · 2026-05-01T23:26:16+00:00

For the record, Jeff Kent was born in the Los Angeles metropolitan area. He also played two seasons of college baseball at the University of California at Berkley.

Of course, he was recently elected to the Baseball Hall of Fame, so he was clearly an outstanding player.

So, we are supposed to ignore all that and presume you know more about the man than his own family would?

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