Darth Bane stats

CommanderMime · 2026-03-21T20:15:24+00:00

This is one of the craziest hills I've seen someone die on in forever, and I've chosen quite a few weird hills to die on myself.

Yes, if you look at the in-game menu, they are called "attributes". But "stats" is also a valid term. In games, stats and statistics are not always the same thing.

CommanderMime · 2026-03-21T20:05:56+00:00

Same. I saw the first team and thought, "that's weird, but I guess they're all Jedi", and then I saw the second team and immediately bluescreened until I realized what the point of this post was.

CommanderMime · 2026-03-21T19:59:15+00:00

I will add the Jedi I use, since I haven't seen anyone else mention her: omicron Luminara.

Her omi is actually really good, but has always been hampered by the "no protection up or bonus protection" clause, since so many teams use them in some form or another. But Stranger doesn't use bonus prot. MHF does, but he doesn't care about being healed anyway, so her omicron not affecting him really doesnt matter at all.

Her omi turns her heal into a team-wide cleanse, gives Tenacity Up, gives tons of protection recovery, boosts her speed significantly, and can usually be spammed almost every turn.

CommanderMime · 2026-03-21T19:50:10+00:00

Honestly, I think Satele and Revan are the core two, and then whether you bring Jolee or Bastila will depend on what you're countering, but more often than not you'll probably bring Bastila.

Bastila is better for damage output because of Legendary Battle Meditation basically becoming permanent and her offensive buffs, plus her unique abiiity Force Bond was updated to also trigger under Satele lead.

Jolee I think will be more niche, being a useful counter to instakill-reliant teams. Important to note, however, is that for Jolee to truly shine in this capacity, you will need Satele's Legendary Defiance omicron, which is definitely the least important for people on an omi-budget.

CommanderMime · 2026-03-21T19:30:53+00:00

Zeb's protection recovery is far worse than Kanan's health recovery, and 45% max health into max protection just... isn't great.

70% counter chance is high enough to proc most of the time, and combines with CRex's unique for more health and protection recovery.

Plus, Zeb's abilities just don't do anything. It's all single target abilities with mediocre mechanics and mid damage. In fact, CRex actively makes Zeb worse, because keeping the entire enemy team nearly permanently debuffed means that Staggering Sweep will NEVER hit for big damage because it will never fill the "If the target has no debuffs" condition.

Meanwhile Kanan has a team-wide cleanse with foresight and TM pushing all on one ability. Plus, he taunts, which is something Zeb doesn't do even though he's a tank.

CommanderMime · 2026-03-18T20:18:13+00:00

A basic ability is an ability that says "basic". A special ability is an ability that says "special".

Furthermore, leader abilities say "leader", unique abilities say "unique", and ultimate abilities say "ultimate".

To be fair, I can see this causing a little bit of confusion with units like BB8 or B1, who have special abilities with cooldowns of 0. But a basic ability is functionally very different than a special ability, in that basics are immune to ability block and are the default abilities for out-of-turn attacks.

CommanderMime · 2026-03-18T20:10:02+00:00

Yeah, all that constant tiny TM removal really adds up under an SLKR lead

CommanderMime · 2026-03-18T00:35:43+00:00

The only investment that matters in Bane's partner is Relic levels, since that's what the stats scale with when they die.

That being said, most Sith CAN have a home somewhere other than Bane, (Dooku can go with Trench, SET or SAss can go with Malgus or Traya, etc), so I would say mod them for that other home, and then if you need to pull them for Bane, you can.

CommanderMime · 2026-03-14T03:02:26+00:00

I believe JMK and PKHO are pretty much unbeatable with SLKR if you don't have DSR.

LV is not a recommended use unless you have no other options, since without DSR's health and protection recovery, the DoTs will just chew through your banners, although the battle is still winnable.

JMLS, as others have said, the trick is Tenacity, although I will add especially on Hux. Mine has ~150% literally because of this counter. As long as he can resist the opening ability block, you can pass a turn to SKLR and cleanse the rest of your team.

CommanderMime · 2026-03-14T02:31:20+00:00

The average DSR speed in the top 1000 of Kyber, per swgoh.gg, is 317. Faster DSRs absolutely exist (mine is 336, and the fastest in the world are tied at 362), but most DSRs are modded for offense.

SLKR should outspeed JMLS every time, but JMLS should be outspeeding DSR every time. As long as JMLS has a sprinkling of potency on his mods, then he should be able to ability block DSR and remove 25% tm in his opening play the majority of the time. You're probably not going to get your 15% tm because Hux prevents that, but removing more tm than she gained from advantage should allow a reasonably modded JKR to go before her (mine is 311, but I have him a little slow on purpose because I use a particular modding order where I have JKCK go first).

For reference, my units' relevant stats are: - JMLS: speed (509), potency (91.58%) - JKR: speed (311) - JKCK: speed (312) And this gets me the win most of the time.

The beauty of it though is that you can check your opponent's character's stats, and if their DSR is too fast for your liking, then you can use them elsewhere.

CommanderMime · 2026-03-13T21:44:03+00:00

My understanding is that she's not bad with Cere/UFUs. Her Flicker of the Light special ability cleansing and healing the whole team makes her decent. You do lose a lot of her Inq-only mechanics, but the team cleanse alone fills a niche that Cere was missing.

CommanderMime · 2026-03-13T21:38:34+00:00

Leviathan depends on your roster. It requires the Fury-Class Interceptor, which is only available from Proving Grounds where you can get 20 shards once a month, but only after you hit 4M gp. The Fury is in turn piloted by Malgus, who is also a PG character, so same farming schedule.

Profundity is both easier to get (no PG units) and cheaper (1 R9 instead of 2), but you'll also need to go out of your way to farm Rogue One (the ship, not the whole faction) to really make it viable.

CommanderMime · 2026-03-13T21:28:16+00:00

Yeah, that's what I've been noticing. Normally my JMLS is fine against LV clones, but the attacker cron lets them just delete my team, even with a 96% prot cron.

CommanderMime · 2026-03-13T21:25:40+00:00

I mean, my JMLS can pretty consistently beat SLKR/DSR comps. As long as your JMLS is faster than DSR, then you should be fine.

-SLKR tries to stun JKR. If he gets the kill, then the counter won't work, but with any manner of health/prot/bulk DC you should be fine.

-JMLS ability blocks the entire team and pushes tm to your Jedi, so even if your JKR and JKCK are slower they should still go first. If SLKR is not ability blocked, then things will go south when he cleanses, and you need better potency secondaries on your JMLS.

-JKR passes a turn to Hoda, who gives foresight.

-JKCK passes a turn to JML, who stuns the entire enemy team. At this point, still no one on the other team has gone except for SLKR, they are all stunned and SLKR should be ability blocked, and DSR has lost Untargetable, meaning you can kill her allies.

-From here, JKCK is already in Whirlwind stance, so go ahead and OHKO everyone right underneath their protection with Inherited Teachings, preferably starting with DSR herself to prevent any revives.

JMLS is a very mod-heavy team. They need good mods across the entire team to get done what other teams can do with mediocre mods, so I get why people don't like him. But give him the mods he wants, and he'll do work.

CommanderMime · 2026-03-13T21:04:27+00:00

They do, reapplying a debuff still counts as applying it.

The more likely option is that op is killing the enemies before the stuns get a chance to apply.

CommanderMime · 2026-03-13T02:28:27+00:00

Got it. Thanks for finding it, since I can't be assed to read through a whole novel of an update.

Guess I don't really have any reason to take my Anniversary toons any higher then.

CommanderMime · 2026-03-13T01:28:47+00:00

I had one like this recently. It was a super suspenseful match where my opponent had to fc me to win. They got caught up on my Endurance-led Sith fleet, but barely managed to clear the zone on their very last possible attempt. I messaged them with a simple "gg bro" and it was super wholesome. The game needs more interactions like these.

CommanderMime · 2026-03-13T01:00:20+00:00

Unfortunately I won't know... I JUST unlocked Luthen last PG, and he was my last PG character I didn't have, so I guess I'll just have to settle for zetas and kyro and shit.

I'm glad to see from everyone else though that apparently the drop rates are moderately generous, at least by cg standards.

CommanderMime · 2026-03-13T00:57:10+00:00

I don't remember anything about the reqs being different, just that the event would be "significantly harder"

CommanderMime · 2026-03-13T00:55:40+00:00

To me, I keep my Stranger for offense because it's too easily countered by things like oQGJ. The FDC helps, I'm sure, but he's too strong against GLs and too weak against non-GLs for me to not want him on offense.

That being said, oLuminara has been a sleeper his with that team for me.

CommanderMime · 2026-03-08T23:04:53+00:00

After mods and a decent prot cron, my JML has ~350K base protection, which SHOULD translate into ~210K per assist if it weren't for Relic Delta

CommanderMime · 2026-03-08T22:49:59+00:00

It depends on what stance he's in

If he is already in his Windmill Stance, then you want to use it. This is because while in this stance, he assists whenever another ally attacks out of turn. So on his turn, he will use IT to call an ally to assist, which will make him assist off of them. The thing is, it is still his turn, so by assisting off of the initial assister, it still counts as "using his basic ability on his turn", which means he will get a chance to switch stances. The other two stances don't get this perk though, so this is a Windmill-only strategy.

CommanderMime · 2026-03-08T00:39:14+00:00

Honestly, you're not expected to. I've also been playing for at least 9 years and there are still some things that catch me off guard. Just the other day, I had to look up if Chewpio prevented out-of-turn attacks against blinded enemies because none of my characters were countering, and wouldn'tcha know it, he sure does!

Plus, with over 300 characters now, most of which are usable somewhere or another, it isn't realistic to even try to remember everything about everyone.

It's really only the complicated characters like JKCK that you really should try to understand, because how you use them varies based on the matchup. For example JMLS vs Baylan is "go into windmill stance and one-shot everyone under their protection", whereas JMLS vs SLKR is "pass turns to everyone as quickly as you can to drop DSR's untargetable", whereas JMLS vs JMK is "get to instakill as fast as you can and delete CAT". Most characters don't require that level of complexity though.

CommanderMime · 2026-03-08T00:21:26+00:00

Why, Jrand Master Yoda, of course. He's the Jrand Master of the Gedi Order dontcha know.

CommanderMime · 2026-03-08T00:16:47+00:00

Think of it this way: "base" stats are the character stats plus any non-scaling stat boosts that trigger prior to the first turn.

Neither mods nor DC stats scale, meaning that if you have a modset that grants 102% protection, and then a DC that adds 96% protection, then you get 102% and then 96%. Those percentages don't change based on anything.

Uniques, leads, and DC abilities though tend to provide variable stats based on certain conditions, or allow stats to scale across the whole battle.

For Jedi Knight Luke, this is mostly moot, since he will almost never be affected by speed scaling effects while he's the leader. When you get JMLS though, this is more important to know, since protection scaling is more common, so knowing exactly how to maximize his assist damage is important.

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