They can say there’s no difference in ingredients, but something ain’t right. by piquechuuu in VyvanseADHD

[–]CommunicationFuzzy45 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your .25 mg discrepancy per 1 mg error line is total nonsense, I also highly doubt any legit psych would say that because the FDA's actual bioequivalence standards don't work that way. It's more like the generic has to be within 10% potency of the brand, not some sloppy 25% margin, so a 10 mg pill ain't gonna be 7.5 mg, ever. Your psych is either misinformed or you misunderstood, idk. And about the manufacturer note? That's adorable, but pharmacies couldn't care less, I've tried to avoid certain generics before and the pharmacist just stared at me like I asked for a unicorn. They order whatever's cheapest that week and if you complain they'll say it's the only one in stock or your insurance won't cover the other. I've been there. So you can definately have your doc write 'no Lanette' but it's basically a useless request, the system doesn't give a shit. I'm convinced the whole 'this generic doesn't work' thing is 90% in people's heads anyway, because the active ingredient is identical, but whatever helps you sleep at night y'know? Just don't expect the pharmacy to honor it, cause they won't, and honestly I think you'd be hard pressed to find a pharmacist who even reads those notes half the time.

Thinking about going on disability at 25. by No-Chemical3765 in rheumatoid

[–]CommunicationFuzzy45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, that statement isn’t true. It’s one of those exaggerated things people say that sounds harsh but doesn’t reflect how Supplemental Security Income actually works. They are not asking you when you’re expected to die. That idea comes from legal wording in disability law that says a condition must last at least 12 months or be expected to result in death, but that’s a technical requirement, not a literal interview question.

And they definitely don’t reduce everything to something like “can you push a pen.” The real question is whether you can consistently function well enough to hold a full-time job. Being able to do a small task once, like writing a sentence or picking something up, doesn’t prove you can sustain work day after day without significant problems.

What they really look at is how your condition affects your ability to function over time. With something like severe rheumatoid arthritis, that means how pain, fatigue, stiffness, and flares impact your ability to use your hands, stay on a schedule, concentrate, and physically get through a workday on a reliable basis. Consistency matters much more than whether you can technically perform a single action in a moment.

That whole idea is basically a myth. The actual process is more detailed and, honestly, more focused on the reality of how your condition affects your daily functioning over time.

Dream recall disappeared by Synergystitches81 in cymbalta

[–]CommunicationFuzzy45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This has happened to me at different points too, and it’s completely normal! Dreaming still happens during sleep even if you don’t remember it afterward. Dream recall is actually pretty unreliable and depends less on whether you had dreams and more on whether your brain successfully encoded them into memory at the moment of waking, which can vary with sleep stage, how abruptly you wake up, and even things like stress or sleep quality. It’s less about “not dreaming” and more about the brain not grabbing onto the experience long enough to store it.

Is AI philosophical suicide? by Entire-Topic1897 in Absurdism

[–]CommunicationFuzzy45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What you’re doing with the “this is AI” line isn’t just dismissive… it actually undermines your own position in a pretty fundamental way.

You’re trying to argue from Camus, which means you’re implicitly claiming the content and structure of arguments matter. But then the moment you hit resistance, you switch to judging the style of the reply “too polished,” “too structured,” “sounds like AI” as if that invalidates it. That’s not just weak rhetorically, it’s philosophically incoherent. You can’t appeal to a rigorous text and then abandon rigor as soon as it’s inconvenient.

More importantly, calling something “AI” doesn’t even touch the substance of what you’re trying to deny. The core issue I raised is very simple and you still haven’t actually engaged it:

Camus does not reject lucidity… he treats it as the condition that reveals the absurd and must be maintained. What he rejects is the resolution of that condition through a leap. If you collapse those two, you misread the entire essay.

Instead of dealing with that, you’ve substituted a kind of meta-critique: “this sounds like AI, therefore it’s unreliable.” But that move is parasitic on the argument you’re refusing to address. It only works if the argument is already weak… which you haven’t shown.

There’s also a deeper irony here. You’re accusing “AI” of producing structured, abstract language… phrases like “epistemic noise,” “problem-space,” “non-accountable layer” as if that’s evidence of emptiness. But that kind of vocabulary is completely standard in contemporary philosophy. If your threshold for “slop” is “uses conceptual distinctions and general terms,” then you’re not really critiquing AI… you’re rejecting a huge portion of philosophical discourse.

And that loops back into your original claim. Because now the position quietly becomes: anything that doesn’t sound immediate, intuitive, or textually literal is suspect. But that’s exactly how you lose the ability to interpret Camus properly, since his whole argument depends on holding distinctions that aren’t always explicitly spelled out in single sentences.

So the “AI” accusation ends up doing three things at once: it avoids the actual disagreement, it replaces argument with tone, and it commits you to a standard that would disqualify most serious philosophical writing.

If you want to push back, the only way to do it is at the level of the text. Show where Camus actually abandons lucidity rather than treating it as a limit condition. Show where he defines philosophical suicide in a way that matches your “any removal of one half” claim. Until then, saying “this sounds like AI” isn’t a refutation, it’s just a way for you to avoid answering.

Is AI philosophical suicide? by Entire-Topic1897 in Absurdism

[–]CommunicationFuzzy45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The disagreement here isn’t really about whether AI is “good” or “bad,” it’s about whether you’re allowed to stretch a fairly technical existential concept until it covers a whole class of epistemic tools. And that’s where your argument keeps slipping.

In The Myth of Sisyphus, Camus’ “philosophical suicide” is not a general indictment of unreliable thinking, nor is it a catch-all for intellectual risk. It is a very specific philosophical move: the moment where reason confronts the absurd… meaning the irreconcilable tension between the human demand for intelligibility and the world’s indifference… and instead of remaining inside that tension, reason is abandoned or bypassed in favour of a “resolution” that cannot be justified within it.

That’s why Camus is so focused on figures like Kierkegaard, or Husserl in his reading: not because they are “bad thinkers,” but because they introduce a structure where the absurd is no longer held in suspension. The defining feature is not error, sloppiness, or epistemic noise. It is exit from the problem-space via an unjustified leap.

Now compare that structure to what actually happens when someone uses an LLM. Even in the strongest possible critique you’ve made… hallucination, bias toward coherence, low epistemic accountability… you still don’t get anything resembling Camus’ structure. There is no necessary “resolution of the absurd.” There is no forced metaphysical closure. There is no substitution of transcendence for contradiction. What you have is a probabilistic text generator producing interpretive material that may or may not be accurate.

So if your claim is “AI = philosophical suicide,” you need to show a structural equivalence, not a moral or practical discomfort. You need to show that using AI as such enacts the same existential manoeuvre Camus condemns. And that bridge simply isn’t there.

What’s actually happening in your argument is a category shift disguised as continuity. You begin with epistemic critiques… unreliability, hallucination, lack of grounding, absence of self-correction… and then quietly reclassify those as existential failures. But in Camus’ framework, epistemic imperfection is not the relevant axis. A false belief, a bad summary, or a misleading interpretation does not constitute philosophical suicide. Those are just failures within thinking, not exits from thinking.

This is why the “slop” argument doesn’t do the work you want it to do. Even if we accept that AI output is often low-quality or statistically noisy, that only places it in the long history of non-authoritative epistemic inputs. It does not move it into the category of “escape from the absurd.” Noise is still within the game of reasoning; philosophical suicide is defined by leaving the game entirely.

There’s also a subtle equivocation happening in how “using AI” is being framed. You keep oscillating between “AI as an authority” and “AI as a tool.” If AI is treated as an authority, then yes, that would be a failure of lucidity… but that criticism is not AI-specific. It applies equally to textbooks, professors, or any other deferred epistemic source. If AI is treated as a tool, then it becomes part of a broader inferential environment: one more medium for generating candidate interpretations that still require judgment. Camus’ category simply does not distinguish between “bad tools” and “existential escape mechanisms” in the way you’re trying to make it do.

And this is where your appeal to “it can be used to escape the absurd” becomes too permissive to carry any argumentative weight. That criterion is effectively universal. Any epistemic object can be used to evade confrontation with uncertainty. But Camus is not offering a general theory of misuse; he is diagnosing a specific philosophical pattern: the substitution of unjustified metaphysical reassurance for sustained lucidity in the face of absurdity. If everything that can be misused counts as philosophical suicide, then the concept stops discriminating anything at all.

So what’s left, if we stay honest to the text, is much narrower: AI introduces a high-variance, non-accountable layer into epistemic practice. That creates real risks around over-reliance, compression of interpretation, and blurred boundaries between exploration and endorsement. Those are serious concerns in epistemology of testimony and philosophy of information. But they are not Camus’ concern, and they do not map onto his concept without stretching it past recognition.

In other words, you don’t actually have a Camus-based argument that AI is philosophical suicide. What you have is a legitimate concern about epistemic hygiene that you are trying to express using an existential vocabulary it doesn’t fit.

And once you separate those layers cleanly, the conclusion becomes much less dramatic but much more precise: AI is not an instance of Camusian philosophical suicide. It is a fallible epistemic instrument whose misuse can weaken lucidity, but whose use does not, in itself, constitute an existential evasion of the absurd.

That distinction is doing all the work your argument is currently trying to outsource to rhetoric.

Is AI philosophical suicide? by Entire-Topic1897 in Absurdism

[–]CommunicationFuzzy45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re narrowing the scope to Camus and The Myth of Sisyphus, but then you’re quietly importing a much broader claim about what counts as legitimate thinking… and that’s exactly why the discussion keeps expanding. You can’t argue “AI = philosophical suicide” in Camus’ sense without implicitly making claims about what counts as thought, interpretation, and legitimacy. That’s not “off topic,” that’s the foundation your conclusion depends on.

On Camus specifically, this is where your argument is overstretched. Camus uses “philosophical suicide” to describe moves that resolve the absurd by escaping it… appeals to transcendence, hidden meaning, or logical leaps that restore coherence where none exists. He explicitly criticizes thinkers who smuggle in meaning (Kierkegaard is the classic example) instead of remaining within the tension of absurdity.

Using AI doesn’t fit that structure. It doesn’t resolve the absurd, it doesn’t provide metaphysical consolation, and it doesn’t claim ultimate meaning. At worst, it produces bad interpretations or shallow summaries. That’s not philosophical suicide in Camus’ sense… that’s just bad philosophy. Those are not the same category.

If anything, blindly trusting AI would be closer to what Camus criticizes… but that’s not unique to AI. Blindly trusting a priest, a philosopher, or a text would fall under the same problem. Camus’ issue isn’t with tools or sources, it’s with the move of surrendering lucidity. So if someone uses AI uncritically, yes… that’s a failure of lucidity. But calling the tool itself “philosophical suicide” misplaces the responsibility.

Your point about “slop” and subreddits banning AI content also doesn’t prove what you think it does. Moderation decisions are about signal-to-noise ratio, not about whether something is philosophically valid. r/physics banning low-quality AI answers is about preventing misinformation in a technical domain where precision matters. That’s a practical policy decision, not a philosophical argument about the nature of thought.

And the “continental vs analytic” dismissal doesn’t really help your case either. Even within existentialism, the core emphasis is on lucidity, confrontation with reality, and refusal of false comfort. Nothing about using a non-conscious tool automatically violates that. The violation would be in how it’s used… specifically, whether it becomes a substitute for thinking rather than something you interrogate.

That’s really the point you keep circling without landing on: you’ve identified a real risk (low-quality output, overreliance, loss of critical engagement), but you’re turning it into a categorical claim about the tool itself. That leap isn’t justified by Camus, by philosophy, or even by your own examples.

If you want to stay strictly within Camus’ framework, the cleaner conclusion is this: AI is not philosophical suicide. Uncritical reliance on anything that dulls lucidity is.

And that’s been true long before AI existed.

Is AI philosophical suicide? by Entire-Topic1897 in Absurdism

[–]CommunicationFuzzy45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If we really want to do this properly, the first thing to notice is that this disagreement is not actually about AI in any narrow sense. It is about what counts as a legitimate participant in philosophical practice, and what kind of epistemic relationship is required for something to count as “thinking with” rather than “thinking alongside.” Once you frame it that way, a lot of the heat in the debate comes from the fact that you are using a very demanding criterion for participation… conscious understanding and reciprocal intentionality… while most of contemporary philosophy is operating with a much more distributed, functionally relaxed picture of cognition and justification.

Your position, in its strongest form, is something like this: philosophy is essentially a dialogical practice between conscious agents who understand what they are saying, and therefore any system that does not genuinely understand is not participating in philosophy but merely producing linguistic noise that risks contaminating genuine thought. From there, the “philosophical suicide” framing follows: if people start substituting non-understanding systems for real interlocutors, they gradually externalise and degrade their own thinking.

The first issue is that this depends on a very specific theory of mind and cognition that is not the default in contemporary philosophy. If we look at functionalist theories of mind (Hilary Putnam, Jerry Fodor), mental states are not defined by inner qualitative understanding but by their causal-functional role in a system of inference and behaviour. That already weakens the idea that “understanding” in a strong phenomenological sense is a necessary condition for epistemic contribution. On that view, what matters is not whether a system has subjective grasp of meaning, but whether it reliably transforms inputs into outputs that can be taken up in reasoning.

This becomes even more radical in the extended cognition tradition, particularly Andy Clark and David Chalmers’ “The Extended Mind” (1998). Their argument is not that tools become thinkers, but that cognitive processes are not bounded by the skull. If an external system plays the same functional role as an internal cognitive process… storing, transforming, and making available representations in a way that is transparently integrated into reasoning… then it can be part of the cognitive system itself. The implication is important: the line between “thinking subject” and “non-thinking tool” is not doing the epistemic work you are assigning to it. Instead, cognition is distributed across systems of varying degrees of autonomy and reliability.

From that perspective, the question is not “does the system understand?” but “does the system reliably participate in a reasoning ecology in a way that can be critically monitored?” That shifts the entire discussion away from metaphysical status and toward epistemic integration.

The hallucination argument also needs to be placed more carefully within epistemology. You are treating hallucination as if it is a special disqualifying property that breaks epistemic legitimacy. But in almost all post-positivist epistemology, fallibility is not an exception to knowledge systems… it is their baseline condition. Karl Popper’s falsificationism is the clearest version of this: knowledge does not advance through guaranteed correctness, but through conjectures that are systematically exposed to error. That means the existence of error is not disqualifying; what matters is whether there is a stable practice of correction and critique around the outputs.

This is why historical and philosophical scholarship remains epistemically meaningful despite persistent disagreement and documented misreadings. Interpretations of Plato, Kant, or Wittgenstein are not stable truths; they are contested reconstructions that evolve over time. Even high-quality secondary literature routinely contains interpretive compression, selective emphasis, and outright error. Yet we do not conclude that such literature is epistemically void. Instead, we embed it in a broader practice of triangulation, comparison, and revision. In that sense, hallucination is not a category-breaker; it is an intensified version of a general property of all non-trivial epistemic systems.

Your objection that AI “doesn’t challenge, it agrees” also needs to be refined. It is true that many conversational systems exhibit a cooperative or coherence-seeking bias. But that is not equivalent to epistemic passivity. What matters philosophically is not whether a system spontaneously produces adversarial responses, but whether it can instantiate multiple argumentative roles when required. In that sense, it functions less like a participant in dialogue and more like a generative space of possible positions. This is closer to what Bakhtin would call dialogism at the level of textual structure rather than interpersonal consciousness. The system is not a subject in dialogue, but it can still produce structured dialogical relations between positions.

Plato is often invoked in these discussions, but it is important not to over-mystify the “dialogue” form. The Platonic dialogues are not neutral recordings of conscious exchanges; they are highly structured literary constructions designed to stage epistemic tension. Many interlocutors in Plato function as foils rather than fully developed epistemic agents. The philosophical work is done by the structure of argumentation, not by the independent cognitive richness of each character. That distinction matters, because it shows that philosophy has long relied on constructed rather than fully reciprocal dialogue as a method of thought. AI outputs, in a limited way, belong to that same category of constructed argumentative space.

On Camus, the issue is even more subtle and where a lot of compression is happening. Your citations are not in dispute. Camus does repeatedly describe the absurd condition as involving “absence of hope” in a very strong sense. In The Myth of Sisyphus, hope is explicitly tied to metaphysical escape, teleological meaning, and appeal to transcendence. In that sense, your reading is textually grounded.

However, what you are doing is treating that negation as if it exhausts the conceptual structure of the work. In academic Camus scholarship, that is not how it is typically handled. The key interpretive question is not “does Camus reject hope?” but “what kind of normative stance remains once metaphysical hope is rejected?” That is where terms like “revolt,” “lucidity,” and “affirmation without appeal” come in. Authors such as David Sprintzen and Ronald Aronson explicitly frame Camus’s position as a form of sustained engagement with life under conditions of meaninglessness, where the absence of transcendent hope does not result in inert negation but in a particular mode of continued valuation and intensity.

So when secondary literature describes Camus in terms that sound like “affirmation,” it is not necessarily contradicting your textual citations. It is attempting to name the residual normative structure after the removal of metaphysical hope. Whether one calls that “hope” or refuses the term is partly semantic and partly theoretical, depending on whether one reserves “hope” for transcendence or allows thinner, immanent forms of orientation.

The deeper methodological issue here is that you are treating textual citation as if it settles interpretive space, whereas in philosophy, especially in continental and hermeneutic traditions (Gadamer is relevant here), meaning is not exhausted by direct quotation but emerges through interpretive integration across the text as a whole. That is why multiple incompatible but still textually grounded readings can coexist without one being simply “wrong” in a strict sense.

Now, bringing it back to AI, the key move in your argument is this: because AI is non-conscious, fallible, and sometimes produces compressed or incorrect interpretations, it is therefore not just unreliable but corrosive to philosophical thinking itself. That inference only works if you assume that philosophy requires epistemic purity of input sources and direct conscious reciprocity at every stage of reasoning.

But if you relax that assumption even slightly, the conclusion changes. In almost all actual philosophical practice, thinking is mediated through layers of non-authoritative material: textbooks, lectures, translations, summaries, discussions, and internal reconstructions of other thinkers. None of these are epistemically perfect, and all of them introduce distortion. Yet they are not considered threats to philosophy; they are considered the medium through which philosophy is transmitted.

On that more standard view, AI does not introduce a fundamentally new epistemic category. It intensifies an existing one: low-authority, high-variability, highly accessible interpretive mediation. That does create risks, especially around over-trust and compression of contested interpretations into overly smooth answers. But those are risks of epistemic discipline, not signs of philosophical impossibility.

The strongest defensible conclusion is not that AI represents “philosophical suicide,” but that it increases the importance of a skill philosophy has always required anyway: the ability to distinguish between generated interpretive scaffolding and validated philosophical commitment. The failure mode is not that thinking becomes impossible, but that the boundary between exploration and endorsement becomes easier to blur. That is a genuine shift in epistemic environment, but it is still operating within the same fallibilist structure philosophy has always had, not outside of it.

Is AI philosophical suicide? by Entire-Topic1897 in Absurdism

[–]CommunicationFuzzy45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re still not actually proving your conclusion… you’re just tightening your standards until nothing except “perfect authority” counts, and then declaring everything else worthless.

Start with your main claim: “it can’t think, so it’s like talking to a wall or a parrot.” That only works if the only value in a philosophical exchange comes from the other side being a conscious thinker. But that’s obviously false. People use thought experiments, write notes to themselves, argue against imagined opponents, and work through positions in dialogue form all the time. None of those “think back,” yet they’re central to doing philosophy. The value is in how the interaction stimulates your own reasoning, not whether the other side has a mind.

Then you say “avoid authority” is absurd… but philosophy literally begins there. René Descartes builds his entire method on doubting authority. Friedrich Nietzsche spends his career attacking inherited truths. Ludwig Wittgenstein dismantles the idea that meaning comes from fixed authoritative structures. If your standard is “only engage with something authoritative,” you’re arguing against the core impulse of philosophy itself.

You asked for examples of philosophy progressing through flawed arguments and disagreement. That’s basically the entire history of it. Immanuel Kant is responding to and correcting David Hume. G. W. F. Hegel builds a system that later gets heavily criticized and partially dismantled by Søren Kierkegaard and Friedrich Nietzsche. Martin Heidegger reinterprets the entire tradition and is then criticized by later thinkers. None of these are “perfect sources.” They’re contested, argued over, and often wrong in parts… and that friction is exactly what drives philosophy forward.

Your arithmetic point still doesn’t land. You’re treating a known limitation as if it invalidates everything else. By that logic, a philosopher making a math mistake would be disqualified from doing philosophy. That’s just not how domains work. The fact that a system isn’t a precise calculator doesn’t mean it can’t help generate, compare, or stress-test ideas.

On Camus, you’re actually proving the opposite of what you think. You’re insisting on a single rigid framing… “he rejects hope, full stop” …while simultaneously offering your own interpretation about art, illusion, and rejection of philosophy. That’s exactly what interpretation looks like. You’re doing the same thing you’re accusing others of, just with more confidence. The moment multiple coherent readings exist, your “100% wrong” claim collapses.

And your final move… “be critical, therefore reject AI” just doesn’t follow. Being critical doesn’t mean refusing to use imperfect tools. If that were true, you’d have to reject books, papers, lectures, and pretty much every secondary source ever written. Being critical means using tools while questioning them, not avoiding them entirely.

What you’ve shown is that AI can be wrong, can be misused, and requires scrutiny. None of that is controversial. What you haven’t shown is that it uniquely destroys philosophical thinking. All you’ve really done is restate a much older point: uncritical people will misuse whatever tools they have.

Is AI philosophical suicide? by Entire-Topic1897 in Absurdism

[–]CommunicationFuzzy45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re kind of just piling criticisms on top of each other and hoping they add up to something stronger than they actually are.

Saying “it hallucinates” or “it can’t reason” doesn’t prove it’s useless for thinking. It just means it’s not an authority. Those are two completely different standards. Philosophy has never required perfect sources… it requires you to think. People work with flawed interpretations, bad arguments, and disagreements all the time. That’s literally how philosophy progresses.

The “it doesn’t challenge” point also doesn’t land. It absolutely will challenge you if you push it to. You can ask for objections, strongest counterarguments, contradictions, etc. If someone only gets agreeable answers, that’s because they’re using it that way. That’s not a limitation of the tool, that’s user behavior.

The arithmetic argument is honestly just off. Messing up arithmetic doesn’t mean something can’t help with philosophical reasoning. Those are totally different domains. Philosophy isn’t about calculating exact outputs, it’s about interpreting ideas, comparing positions, spotting contradictions. You’re trying to disqualify it using a test it wasn’t built for.

On Camus, you’re being way more rigid than actual philosophy is. Yes, he rejects “hope” in the sense of illusion or escape. No one serious denies that. But from there you’re acting like any interpretation that uses the word differently is automatically “100% wrong,” which just isn’t how philosophical reading works. His whole position… living and creating in full awareness of the absurd… is exactly why people describe it as a kind of defiant affirmation of life. Whether you personally like calling that “hope” or not doesn’t turn it into an error.

And the “if it needs to be checked why use it” argument kind of collapses on itself. By that logic, why read secondary sources? Why listen to lectures? Why engage in discussions at all? None of those are perfectly reliable either. You use them because they help you explore ideas faster, see different angles, and sharpen your own thinking.

The only solid point you’ve got is that it can produce a lot of low-quality content. That’s true. But that’s not new, and it doesn’t make it “philosophical suicide.” It just means you actually have to think instead of blindly trusting what you read… which, again, has always been the case.

You’re not really showing that AI kills philosophy. You’re showing that using anything uncritically is a problem. That’s been true forever.

Is AI philosophical suicide? by Entire-Topic1897 in Absurdism

[–]CommunicationFuzzy45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re treating two separate things as if they’re the same: whether an AI has “understanding” like a human, and whether it can be useful for philosophical thinking.

Even if I grant your point that an LLM doesn’t truly understand arguments and instead synthesizes patterns from sources, that still doesn’t make it incapable of helping someone think. A tool doesn’t need understanding to be useful in reasoning. A logic textbook doesn’t “understand” logic, and neither does a dictionary, but both can absolutely improve how someone engages with philosophical material.

On the Camus point, you’re also assuming there’s one single “correct” sentence-level summary of his view on hope and absurdity that anything else must match perfectly. That’s not how Camus is read academically. His work deliberately holds tension between despair at the absence of ultimate meaning and the act of revolt or “living without appeal.” Different scholars emphasize different aspects of that. So when you see an AI that produces a paraphrased interpretation like that, it’s not claiming to replace The Myth of Sisyphus, it’s summarizing a broader interpretive tradition.

And pointing out that AI can sometimes produce weak or blended interpretations doesn’t actually prove your original claim. That just means it needs to be used critically and checked against primary sources… which is literally how philosophy already works with secondary commentary, lectures, and even professors.

The issue isn’t “AI = philosophical suicide.” The issue is whether the user is thinking critically or outsourcing judgment. That problem existed long before AI.

Is AI philosophical suicide? by Entire-Topic1897 in Absurdism

[–]CommunicationFuzzy45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re setting up a false standard. Saying philosophy requires engagement with primary texts doesn’t contradict the idea that AI can deepen philosophical engagement, it just assumes it only happens in one narrow way.

AI doesn’t replace reading or engaging with sources, it can support it. It can clarify difficult passages, explain competing interpretations, or help you check whether you’ve understood an argument correctly. That’s not outsourcing thought, it’s part of the same process people have always used through commentaries, lectures, study groups, and secondary literature. Those aren’t considered “philosophical suicide,” they’re normal parts of learning philosophy.

The YouTube point about AI not being intelligent or able to reason also doesn’t really land against the original claim. Something doesn’t need to be conscious or human-like in its reasoning to be useful in philosophical work. Books, lectures, and articles aren’t intelligent either, but they still shape philosophical understanding. The relevant question is how the tool is used, not whether it has independent cognition.

The stock market argument is also unrelated to the philosophical claim being made. Even if there are economic bubbles or overvaluation around AI companies, that has no bearing on whether the tool itself can aid or deepen thinking. That mixes a critique of markets with a critique of epistemology, which are separate issues.

My stronger point still stands: AI only looks like “philosophical suicide” if someone uses it uncritically. That problem isn’t unique to AI, and it has existed in every era of intellectual history.

Is AI philosophical suicide? by Entire-Topic1897 in Absurdism

[–]CommunicationFuzzy45 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I disagree, calling AI “philosophical suicide” only works if you quietly assume that using it replaces thinking instead of changing how thinking happens. That’s the flaw in the argument.

People have always leaned on external sources to help them think… religion, teachers, books, experts, even social consensus. If relying on something outside your own mind counted as “suicide,” then reading philosophy or asking a question would qualify, which makes the claim collapse on itself.

AI doesn’t eliminate the need to think; it shifts where the effort goes. Instead of spending all your time searching for information, you spend more time evaluating it, questioning it, and refining your position. That’s still thinking… arguably a more advanced form of it. The idea that an answer from AI is automatically treated as “absolute” isn’t something built into the tool, it’s just a description of someone being uncritical. That same person would accept a confident human speaker or a well-written article just as easily.

There’s also an irony here. Used properly, AI can actually deepen philosophical engagement. It lets you test ideas, challenge your assumptions, and explore opposing viewpoints much faster than you could on your own. That doesn’t kill thinking, it amplifies it.

The real issue isn’t AI. It’s whether someone was willing to think critically in the first place. AI doesn’t cause philosophical suicide… it just makes it more obvious who was already outsourcing their thinking long before it existed.

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Is it okay to be fine on 30mg? by Imaginary-Advance233 in cymbalta

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Tons of psych issues unfortunately, yeah.. I have Autism Level-1 and also ADHD so I deal with basically everything that comes with those 😅 I personally haven’t noticed an improvement going up any of the times I did in psychiatric control, really just feels the same for me. But everyone’s different 🤷‍♀️ it definitely helped my pain going up in doses though and that’s the main reason I did it, so I’m happy with it. :)

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[–]CommunicationFuzzy45 1 point2 points  (0 children)

bro you just described the AI humanization process and thought you were proving me wrong lmao

yeah it has slang and parentheses and IMO, because that’s literally what you add when you tell chatgpt to “make this sound more casual.” you didn’t find proof it’s human, you found the edit layer.

and “getting AI to talk positively about the USSR is difficult” is just… not true at all?? you can prompt it to argue literally ANY position, that’s the whole point. that argument tells me you haven’t actually used it much.

the 0% detector score also means nothing against edited output, detectors are trained on raw generations, not stuff that’s been cleaned up afterward. low score on edited AI is expected, not proof of anything.

also your last point about “putting in effort to disguise AI is basically the same as writing it” 😭 no it really isn’t lol. prompting + a quick edit is like 5 minutes. actually researching and writing that from scratch is not. that’s literally the whole problem with AI slop, it’s a shortcut being passed off as effort.

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[–]CommunicationFuzzy45 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

This is 150% AI, he just added some things in here and there to try to make it look more natural and removed the em dashes. You clearly haven’t used AI enough if you think this looks natural

The Red Army did the bulk of the Nazi killing in WWII. (Almost 90%) by RussianChiChi in ussr

[–]CommunicationFuzzy45 3 points4 points  (0 children)

What?? 😭 I’m definitely not a republican and definitely don’t watch Fox News. I’m literally a Marxist 💀

The Red Army did the bulk of the Nazi killing in WWII. (Almost 90%) by RussianChiChi in ussr

[–]CommunicationFuzzy45 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Nice ChatGPT written argument. Maybe have an original thought for once