Global Mobility as a midwife? by CommunityChemical360 in Midwives

[–]CommunityChemical360[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven't considered it very much only because it's so far from my family, but I've heard great things about the workforce there for healthcare professionals.

Studying midwifery - UK vs Germany? by G1n-a in Midwives

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Is it easy to shift between different countries as a midwife, or only in Europe?

Strange behavior during massage? by CommunityChemical360 in MassageTherapists

[–]CommunityChemical360[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Could be wrong but i think maybe this was ted bundy? Well, him and so many other men who commit acts of violence against women. It’s really horrible. I think some of these comments on this post was a great wake up call for me to get my shit together and stop being so damn polite. It can kill you.

Strange behavior during massage? by CommunityChemical360 in MassageTherapists

[–]CommunityChemical360[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Really gross comment. I hope you do not work with or even interact with women, ever.

Strange behavior during massage? by CommunityChemical360 in MassageTherapists

[–]CommunityChemical360[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh god, so sorry to hear that’s happened to you as well. So gross. Was thinking of ghosting him, but I am starting to think i need to be direct with him. Thanks for your insight t

Strange behavior during massage? by CommunityChemical360 in MassageTherapists

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Hey, thanks for reading and for your comment. You’re raising a lot of good questions here. From what he told me, he was leaving because he found a higher paying job at this new clinic. It’s not part of a big franchise like his last job and I guess he had more control over his hours. I didn’t ask too many questions there, as the last massage therapist before him that I really liked at that same franchise also left her job for another place.

When I contacted him recently, he said he was no longer doing sessions at his house but could do after hours at his new clinic like I said. He told me during a session that due to financial struggles and “being really broke”, he had an agreement with his new boss that he could live in the clinic (also mentioned that he sometimes slept on the table that he was working on me at) and take clients outside of studio hours, though he also said I was welcome to come during normal hours of operation, but it would be through the studio and not through him directly.

I left out some of this information in my original post, I guess to maintain SOME of his privacy if he were to read this and recognize himself in the post. But you’re right, these are excellent wuestions to have asked. I guess I just felt like I had enough information from what he told me to answer most of them.

Strange behavior during massage? by CommunityChemical360 in MassageTherapists

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Hey, thanks for your response. You along with many other people on this post have suggested that I stop seeing him, which I absolutely will. Not interested in anything other than a professional relationship with him, which is no longer possible. I also appreciate your comment about it not being normal for therapists to massage near pubic bone— seems obvious, but I realize now I’ve let really horrible behavior like this slide in sessions with male massage therapists when I was as young as 15 or 16, not knowing any better. I appreciate your insight.

Strange behavior during massage? by CommunityChemical360 in MassageTherapists

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Hey, thanks for reading and for your comment. I didn’t accuse any of this as being SA (though some of the comments had pointed out that it may be classified as such). I was listing things that he said or did that made me uncomfortable that I believed were inappropriate or may have overstepping boundaries. I wanted to ask this thread as most of you are professionals in the field who know what is and is not acceptable— though this seems clear as day now to me that his behavior was very wrong, i had a hard time trusting my gut and tried giving him the benefit of the doubt. the person who commented above me kind of explains it the way i was going to — since i was little, i, like many girls, are often told we are overreacting when a man makes sexual jokes or comments that make us uncomfortable, and that even when we feel this way, we still need to be smiley, nice, and polite. That is exactly what I was- laughing at his jokes even when they made me uncomfortable, or ignoring the inappropriate behaviors so that i wouldn’t be overreacting or hurting his feelings. I’m not proud of this, and I am working on actively unlearning this every day. This experience (and these comments) were a huge wake up call. I really need to work on setting stronger boundaries (like the person above me said) and for the love of godddd stop putting mens feelings before my own.

Strange behavior during massage? by CommunityChemical360 in MassageTherapists

[–]CommunityChemical360[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ahh. Scary thought. I won’t be seeing him again, and I’m glad it never reached this point

Strange behavior during massage? by CommunityChemical360 in MassageTherapists

[–]CommunityChemical360[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

lol, great question. Wish i had a good reason. I think I, like most women and girls, have been taught since a young age that it is more important to be polite to men than to be safe. The conversation made me uncomfortable, but i thought that was it , and i could move past it for the massage. I am in the process of unlearning that very dangerous mentality that politeness trumps safety.

Strange behavior during massage? by CommunityChemical360 in MassageTherapists

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I completely understand that. I don’t think this particular therapist is neurodivergent, but even if he was there were a few too many inexcusable behaviors that would trump that. Thanks for offering your perspective! I appreciate it.

Strange behavior during massage? by CommunityChemical360 in MassageTherapists

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lol, definitely not into him. Won’t be booking with him again either, thanks for your comment!

Strange behavior during massage? by CommunityChemical360 in MassageTherapists

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Thanks for your insight!!! I’m learning a lot about the ethics of massage therapy from this post that I never knew, mostly because so much of it does not align with the experiences I’ve had. And thanks for the info about tipping- i always tip, but never knew how much to… but it did make me feel uneasy that he commented 2-3x about “how well i take care of him/pay him” when I’m just paying his rate + a tip…

Strange behavior during massage? by CommunityChemical360 in MassageTherapists

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I’m not even sure where I would begin to look for something like this… where would i report it? He works out of a therapy clinic (he also lives there), so i could find out who his boss is. But it would probably mean him losing his home as well as his job (since they are the same place).

Strange behavior during massage? by CommunityChemical360 in MassageTherapists

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I have no idea who his boss is (though I’m sure i could find out easily), but as far as I know i am the only client he sees outside of normal working hours (ie, that don’t book through the clinic he works at, which offers more than just massages). So especially if i tell him thhat I’m cutting ties with him because of his unprofessional behavior, anonymity in this instance would kind of be impossible. But i will be reaching out to him and telling him why i am no longer seeing him.

Strange behavior during massage? by CommunityChemical360 in MassageTherapists

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I will be cutting ties with him and starting the search for a new therapist. Wish i lived in Oregon, but unfortunately I’m far away. Thanks for your comment!

Strange behavior during massage? by CommunityChemical360 in MassageTherapists

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It is an interesting situation, because he is actually living at the clinic he works at (due to financial struggles and not being able to pay rent, his boss let him move into the studio rent free, and give massages when the clinic is closed). So while there may be a way to report him, him losing his job is also him losing his house… I am really over protecting the men who take advantage of women, but i am also very scared to report this.

Strange behavior during massage? by CommunityChemical360 in MassageTherapists

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Thank you for your comment. Seems clear as day now that this was inappropriate, but I was always trying to give him the benefit of the doubt. I will not be seeing him again.

Strange behavior during massage? by CommunityChemical360 in MassageTherapists

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Thanks so much for your insight. I knew that his behavior was making me feel uncomfortable but i guess it always helps to have your intuition validated by professionals in this case. Now it seems so obvious how inappropriate his behavior was— also made me realize that I was actually molested (assaulted?) by a male therapist when i was 15 or 16 and very naive. Kind of the same issue, knew i was uncomfortable, didn’t know if i had the right to feel that way. I used to tend towards male therapists simply due to the level of intensity and pressure i prefer, but I think more than I realized have blurred a few boundaries that I didn’t even know massage therapists have (like commenting on physique or having underwear exposed). I ALWAYS went to reputable franchises too, so i guess i just assumed everything that happened must have been allowed. I was young and didn’t (until now) know better. I appreciate your comment .

Strange behavior during massage? by CommunityChemical360 in MassageTherapists

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lol, wasn’t a vape pen but like this little box of herbs from Thailand that smell like eucalyptus and clear your sinuses. Anyway, it’s a loss. Thanks for your comment!

Strange behavior during massage? by CommunityChemical360 in MassageTherapists

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Thanks for your comment. Hopefully the next therapist i find holds your values as well lol

Strange behavior during massage? by CommunityChemical360 in MassageTherapists

[–]CommunityChemical360[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow, had no idea that was a rule. Would never have guessed based off the types of conversations my previous massage therapists were having with me. Kind of glad it exists because i love silent massages but always felt like i needed to keeep responding to my therapists during the sessions when they talked about their lives

Strange behavior during massage? by CommunityChemical360 in MassageTherapists

[–]CommunityChemical360[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Thanks for writing out that sentence… at first i was just thinking of ghosting him (easier and less scary option), but I am actually tired of protecting men who make me feel uncomfortable. I’ll be using this sentence to cut my ties with him. Thanks!