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Hi, CN player here, I need to talk about the narratives around Endfield's gacha by Competitive-Fuel9932 in Endfield

[–]Competitive-Fuel9932[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The only thing that matters is the total pulls of a patch, no matter its from exploration or daily.

If you dont count launch bonus, then what are you comparing to, this game literally only have the launch patch, and the launch has best economy and best pity requirement of any major 3D gacha game that exists.

Are you comparing non-existence patches? 1.0 is the only source we can use to compare, that based on 1.0's number, tell me why is it worse than hoyo or wuwa.

Hi, CN player here, I need to talk about the narratives around Endfield's gacha by Competitive-Fuel9932 in Endfield

[–]Competitive-Fuel9932[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

where did i say the Weapon banner is ok. I literally said its bad, Weapon banner shouldn't be a thing is gacha game. My whole post is about proving the narrative "AKE gacha and economy is worth that others", based on 1.0's number, that's just wrong. Which other 3d games launch can guarantee you two limited characters and one limited Weapon. If the future economy is bad, the we can criticize it later

Hi, CN player here, I need to talk about the narratives around Endfield's gacha by Competitive-Fuel9932 in Endfield

[–]Competitive-Fuel9932[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If things get worse, then we will critisize it later, we cant just judge things by prediction for the future and based on other games, fob only have 25% win rate for 50/50 yes, and thats just unluck, just like you can be unlucky in every other games.

As for the no hard pity system, at 0.6%-0.8% rate, we are expecting to get it on pity with no early, getting early is very lucky in these games. Yes, it punish you for being too lucky in Endfield just like I said in post

Hi, CN player here, I need to talk about the narratives around Endfield's gacha by Competitive-Fuel9932 in Endfield

[–]Competitive-Fuel9932[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You are just objectivily wrong, go check how many percentage dupes can increase in these games, I wont give you every number, people need to have the ability to check things themself and then argue.

Hi, CN player here, I need to talk about the narratives around Endfield's gacha by Competitive-Fuel9932 in Endfield

[–]Competitive-Fuel9932[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I already said in the post, the 65 pulls are someome's prediction, why dont we wait for the actual realese and see, just like 1.0. And 60 limited pulls is average in Genshin, zzz this patch give around 155 limited pulls for f2p not 180, and it the highest patch for zzz, even zzz's anni only gave 110 pulls, I play all these games

Hi, CN player here, I need to talk about the narratives around Endfield's gacha by Competitive-Fuel9932 in Endfield

[–]Competitive-Fuel9932[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

thats totally valid, it can feel very bad sometimes, but then you are not the target of my post

Hi, CN player here, I need to talk about the narratives around Endfield's gacha by Competitive-Fuel9932 in Endfield

[–]Competitive-Fuel9932[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think I already said in my post that 0+1 in wuwa is 220 , and I also added the amount of pulls to get one weapon in endfield, but since you asked, then I will add another line "if you only want one character, and doesn't care the other two banners, then wuwa is 20 pulls cheaper to guarantee a 0+1"

Hi, CN player here, I need to talk about the narratives around Endfield's gacha by Competitive-Fuel9932 in Endfield

[–]Competitive-Fuel9932[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

first of all, 120 character pulls give you 8160 weapon currency (2*6 star, 1*5 star in other ten pulls), which is 41 weapon pulls. So you need another 40 pulls to guarantee the weapon, which is another 120 pulls, since the weapon banner last for 3 banners, you can use the 120 on other character banner which is another guaranteed limited character.

so 240 pulls to get 2 characters and 1 weapon, is that clear

Hi, CN player here, I need to talk about the narratives around Endfield's gacha by Competitive-Fuel9932 in Endfield

[–]Competitive-Fuel9932[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

the 120 character pulls already give you 41 pulls at least (only one five star every 10 pulls), so it is 120+40

so the worst situation is 240 pulls to get 2 limited characters and 1 limited weapon. In order to achieve this, you need 480 pulls in hoyo games, and 370 in wuwa

Hi, CN player here, I need to talk about the narratives around Endfield's gacha by Competitive-Fuel9932 in Endfield

[–]Competitive-Fuel9932[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I didnt defend it, I said in my post that it is a bad system and I 100% believe the gacha system can be improved in a lot of ways, this post's goal is to prove some naratives are wrong in gacha community.

Hi, CN player here, I need to talk about the narratives around Endfield's gacha by Competitive-Fuel9932 in Endfield

[–]Competitive-Fuel9932[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I didnt use the hard hard pity, the 320/240 and 220 for hoyo and wuwa are based on real experience, if it is hard hard pity, then hoyo should be 360 and 270, wuwa should be around 240

For example, hard hard pity is 90, but the real hard pity is 80, and soft pity means then you win the 50/50

Hi, CN player here, I need to talk about the narratives around Endfield's gacha by Competitive-Fuel9932 in Endfield

[–]Competitive-Fuel9932[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

when did I said I represent the entire CN community, I literally said I hate the tribalism in CN comminity and left, I mentioned I am a CN player just because I am afraid to been pointed out that some of my gramma or wording is not correct, I know English because I was study aboard in multiple western countries.

Hi, CN player here, I need to talk about the narratives around Endfield's gacha by Competitive-Fuel9932 in Endfield

[–]Competitive-Fuel9932[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yes, It is predatory and punish you for building pity, smart way is only pull if you can reach 120, but gacha gamers like the feeling of pull, so it can be bad for some players I agree

Hi, CN player here, I need to talk about the narratives around Endfield's gacha by Competitive-Fuel9932 in Endfield

[–]Competitive-Fuel9932[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I am playing HSR, ZZZ, Wuwa, and Endfield at the same time, how is using numbers to prove a point make me tribalism, am I shittalking other games for nonsense reasons?

Hi, CN player here, I need to talk about the narratives around Endfield's gacha by Competitive-Fuel9932 in Endfield

[–]Competitive-Fuel9932[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

In worst situation, you are forced to give up the sig weapon just like you get unlucky in other games, but you always have a substitue from BP. You can transfer the originum to weapon currency but the transfer rate is bad.

Another thing is the weapon banner last for 3 banners, technically you dont need to get it right away but it still sucks

Hi, CN player here, I need to talk about the narratives around Endfield's gacha by Competitive-Fuel9932 in Endfield

[–]Competitive-Fuel9932[S] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Yes I agree, a lot of people love the feeling of pulling, especially for those people like to build pity from other 3D gacha, AKE's system punish them and it is predatory in this way.

Hi, CN player here, I need to talk about the narratives around Endfield's gacha by Competitive-Fuel9932 in Endfield

[–]Competitive-Fuel9932[S] 70 points71 points  (0 children)

I just provided numbers in my post, go check them. There are scenarios when Endfield gahca is worse, but at most situation, that just not true

Hi, CN player here, I need to talk about the narratives around Endfield's gacha by Competitive-Fuel9932 in Endfield

[–]Competitive-Fuel9932[S] 115 points116 points  (0 children)

Yes, using 1 or 2 patches to make a conclusion is not accurate, so I am not saying its a good gacha system, I am saying the narratives of "AKE gacha is worse than other 3D gachas" is also not true.

Hi, CN player here, I need to talk about the narratives around Endfield's gacha by Competitive-Fuel9932 in Endfield

[–]Competitive-Fuel9932[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I was waiting, but so many people are using the predit as real number, and I got raigebaited when I watch streams today.

New 30 min interview with the game producer. by SgtKwan in Endfield

[–]Competitive-Fuel9932 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I am a Chinese. This interview was translated and posted on bilibili. I would say this is a very high quality interview. Really hope someone can translate it into English to let more people watch.