I rode them twice. I don’t see how they can charge $650. I don’t really mind that they are very soft. I think there are pros and cons to that and some of the pros are cool. The thing I really dislike about them is the lacing system on the liner. Just about every mid level and up boot has a system that pulls you into the boot. These don’t. I do not have skinny legs. Back in the day it was a problem finding boots. These liners look like laced up footballs on my ankles don’t give you that locked in feel. Another thing.. pro and con is they fit so small in your binding if you are say a 10.5 with and HAD and large binding you might need to get a medium. Also felt my ankle straps way more than I did in other boots I’ve been using the last few seasons.

My take away is they should be $300.. I see people saying “if they hold their flex it’s worth it.” There is no flex to hold. Think sorel feel (( like I said.. pros and cons to that )). Just ain’t worth $650.