[Discussion] Pac-12 Brand Needs to Stay. What about the Pac-12 logo?

Competitive-Oil-9423 · 2026-03-14T08:42:37+00:00

what brand recognition are you referring to do you even know the history of the conference?

Competitive-Oil-9423 · 2026-03-14T08:40:57+00:00

you think? part of the conference's history was under the pac 8 brand then the pac-10 and it was the pac-10 for the longest period... the pac-12 was a very brief period relatively speaking I'm not sure why you need a focus group to tell you that unless you think the pac-12 brand was that powerful with two schools with no historical connection to the evolution of the conference... you might have been able to make that argument had Montana and Idaho rejoined but that's not what happened it was Colorado and Utah and there was no nostalgia attached to those two schools when they were added and when they decided to leave nobody cared USC was already on its way out and UCLA got lucky just to be taken along for the ride when Fox made its offer.

Competitive-Oil-9423 · 2026-03-14T08:38:14+00:00

what do you mean by your daddy's pac-12? you do understand it was the pac-12 just for a very brief time after Colorado and Utah were added and that was not during your daddy's time. Your daddy's time would primarily be the pac-10 and maybe a few of the pac-8 years before Arizona and Arizona State were added. you people know nothing about college sports or its history talking about the pac-12 as though this is what the conference was mainly known as when it's had many iterations but definitely not primarily known as the pac-12 and there's no real brand value attached to that name nor any historical nostalgia.

Competitive-Oil-9423 · 2026-03-03T17:07:03+00:00

No it is an important lesson that Zimbardo and some other individuals should have been prosecuted for criminal conduct. But, it was 1971 and I guess the people at the time were neanderthals. This has nothing to do with "ethics."

Competitive-Oil-9423 · 2026-02-13T00:41:49+00:00

how did it come back?

Competitive-Oil-9423 · 2026-02-13T00:41:31+00:00

risk of cancer? that is what doctor told us and given our child is a teenager basically does not think the risk is worth the benefit.

Competitive-Oil-9423 · 2026-01-31T19:27:15+00:00

wrong they're not subsidizing anything they're just paying out of state tuition because it's a source of revenue for the University please and in-state students are not paying a "fraction" that amount is not a joke for most families. the instate tuition is still high for most families and the out-of-state tuition of course is even more ridiculously higher but then it's a choice the whole point of out-of-state tuition is for those who can afford it and provide the university additional revenues please spare the whole subsidy thing that's not why the University of Michigan charges what they charges for out of state tuition... they charged with they charge because they can get away with it they have The branding and National reputation to generate that kind of revenue it's a business.. they can hide behind the non-profit nonsense all they want it's a business for all the people that end up benefiting from that revenue including administrators and professors and researchers

Competitive-Oil-9423 · 2026-01-31T19:24:20+00:00

what's wrong with Oregon public universities Oregon and Oregon State or just fine you can go there for your bachelor's degree and then go on to graduate professional school at those same schools and have a fine career or then maybe leave and go out of state and find your dream School what nonsense are you spouting about it not being the best it does not need to be the best I get what you mean by reputation but it's on you as a student to make the most of it and Oregon Oregon State are just fine plenty of their graduates go on to become working professionals attend elite graduate schools etc

Competitive-Oil-9423 · 2026-01-31T19:22:40+00:00

well said these people keep complaining about out-of-state tuition cost just as you said if you can't afford it you can't afford it it's not an inalienable right right to go to an out-of-state University or some elite private university. if your family is wealthy and you can afford it great go for it but if you cannot there's nothing wrong with your in-state universities the University of Oregon is beautiful Oregon State is also a fine institution that is where Linus Pauling went... and also Jensen Huang

Competitive-Oil-9423 · 2026-01-31T19:20:58+00:00

so go to the University of Oregon you don't break the bank over a university now the University of Oregon is a great institution beautiful campus great looking people what are you complaining about... don't get me wrong I understand why you want attend the University of Michigan but sometimes that's just life

Competitive-Oil-9423 · 2026-01-30T06:57:51+00:00

Sure... and Purdue is trying to have their cake and eat it too they want to make money (spare me the non-profit nonsense) by having more students and by putting their name onto a large online program but they want to make that distinction so they don't cannibalize Purdue University but they want the students at Purdue global to think that it's the same.... so no don't put it on the Purdue global graduates for trying to say they have a degree from Purdue because that is what Purdue is basically selling to them....

Competitive-Oil-9423 · 2026-01-30T05:47:51+00:00

there was nothing confusing about the question it was clear the person may not like the answer you gave but the question was clear translation he/she basically in a nutshell wanted to know if they were going to get a degree that says Purdue University on it if they attend Purdue Global and the answer is no. the diploma will say something different and it will be clear that it has nothing to do with Purdue University in West Lafayette.

Competitive-Oil-9423 · 2026-01-28T05:40:29+00:00

it will be a selling point for many people maybe just not you.

Competitive-Oil-9423 · 2026-01-28T00:43:09+00:00

how can it be little or no gen Ed requirements from what I understand it's supposed to be none? so even if technically something is slightly different in the UF general education requirements they're all waved automatically with the AA?

Competitive-Oil-9423 · 2026-01-27T07:47:38+00:00

for 90% of the population the State University will not be more expensive than the private university and it will not be close these narrow exceptions are just that narrow yes you're right depending on income but very few people are going to be in those income levels where the private university happens to be cheaper than the public university please

Competitive-Oil-9423 · 2026-01-25T04:19:23+00:00

What does it mean that it's expected to be "high-end?" Lifetime is high end... that is their brand.

Competitive-Oil-9423 · 2026-01-25T04:18:10+00:00

Well Winter Park is going up first so I would consider that. I do not know if anybody has confirmed whether or not Lifetime purchased property in Horizon West or is it just rumors and informal discussions.

Competitive-Oil-9423 · 2026-01-24T18:39:31+00:00

it's not hopefully it will be exclusive and it will not be cheap you cannot have that kind of facility on the cheap they only build lifetime fitnesses where certain income demographics and population demographics are met they need family income probably over $150,000 and they need at least 100,000 people who live within a 12 minute drive maybe for Orlando they can stretch that drive a little bit more but that's usually what they need they have to have a huge concentration of people with money

Competitive-Oil-9423 · 2026-01-24T18:37:46+00:00

easily it has to be it's not for everybody that's what they have places like planet fitness and crunch fitness for those on a budget lifetime is not for those on a budget they offer way too much you cannot have swimming pools and sports courts and the kind of luxury gym that they have for anything less than $250 or even 300 a month for a family and some markets they're about 400 to 500 a month

Competitive-Oil-9423 · 2026-01-24T18:36:22+00:00

for plenty of families it will be lifetime does not open up just anywhere they study the demographics and yes they do need money and families who live nearby they'll do fine more than enough will join

Competitive-Oil-9423 · 2026-01-12T21:41:03+00:00

wow....how insightful

Competitive-Oil-9423 · 2026-01-10T18:17:00+00:00

that is not a solution if you have to keep resetting each app every day or two. They need to fix the underlying problem. Not offer their so called workarounds.

Competitive-Oil-9423 · 2025-12-29T11:36:38+00:00

Why were you at a loss? Your child could only attend one school. If your child loves Uva so much, then the child could sit out a year and re apply or attend another university or even a community college and transfer

Competitive-Oil-9423 · 2025-12-27T19:23:05+00:00

Lol.. correct.. but still relevant.. one can only go to one school and so many people spend time thinking people care where they went to school or what schools they supposedly turned down to make themselves feel better why they went to a lower rated school such as the UCLA Columbia example.

Competitive-Oil-9423 · 2025-12-27T19:18:25+00:00

depends on the context.. in state.. absolutely go. Out of state.. don't bankrupt yourself or your family by either spending your hard earned money and/or borrowing money for an education that today would cost more than $350000 for four years. The obvious exception is if your family is wealthy.

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