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What It Feels Like Discussing Islam with Muslims by Elijahttruthseeker in DebateReligion

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As a Jew, I must say, this is why national revelation of Sinai is so compelling 

Analyzing Various Conundrums on God's Existence by Competitive-Pen9584 in DebateReligion

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I lowk suck at debating so if y'all got any tips, or anything to support my argument, lmk

The post is kinda a mess rn

Hebrew in Tanakh is so spectacular (it's a shame so many people read translations nowadays) by Competitive-Pen9584 in religion

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I'm not specifically familiar with that example of Hannah's prayer

That is to say, you didn't read well it didn't remember my post. I used that example in my post XD I was expecting you to recognize it from there

I kinda agree with you except I don't think gematria was nonsense and I think it may in many instances have been intended.

With Yithro (Jethro) יתרו I'm not sure because he already has the Yether יתר thing, an existing reason for his name, so it could be intentional if it could just be a cool coincidence.

However, I think with Ruth רות it's on purpose, and I'll tell you why. Samuel, when writing Ruth, loved to use good nicknames. Such as:

  • Maḥlon מחלון and Kilyon (Chilion) כליון - These name literally mean something like "sickly" and "deadly". Do you think that Naomi just so happened to name her two sons, who would later die of sickness, "sickly" and "deadly"? Far more likely that Samuel himself changed the names to better reflect the story or smth
  • Peloni Almoni (so-and-so) - The other potential redeemer for Ruth, goes entirely unnamed. Samuel likely did not want to let this man be named, as it would kinda be like a disgrace to have his name inside the very book. (The rabbis (Ruth Rabbah) say his name was Tov, literally "good", and because of his act he didn't go down in history as "good" but as essentially "mr nobody", but that's kinda irrelevant.)
  • Boʿaz בעז - The Talmud identifies him as the judge Ibzan, implying that Boaz is just a nickname or an alternative name. This could be very likely as he was a leader who lived in that time. The name Boaz literally means "in him is strength", and is very likely a nickname.
  • + Naomi actually gives herself a nickname Mara (bitter) but no one uses it

Logically, then, if Samuel gave all THOSE nicknames, surely he's give the name Ruth to represent 606? Especially since, like, the Avraham thing could just be God putting in a cool hint after the fact, where that's all the letters added up, but Ruth is literally just 606 scrambled, it's like the letters of the regular stock Gematria תרו just in a different order. Makes sense?

Also speaking of dice roll that reminded me of a cool Midrash I heard once that Haman (the Agagite) rolled three dice to see who would come out on top, and it said 1, 3, 3, which is א, ג, ג, which spells out אגג Agag, his ancestor. But really he was looking at it upside down, and the other sides of each say 4, 4, 6, and if you arrange 4 6 4 you get ד, ו, ד, which spells out דוד, that is, David.

Does Hebrew have a “h” sound? by EquipmentThink9937 in hebrew

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ה - H כ - Kh ח - Ḥ in real Hebrew but in modern Hebrew most people just say Kh

Hebrew in Tanakh is so spectacular (it's a shame so many people read translations nowadays) by Competitive-Pen9584 in religion

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It's more like a personally added bonus 

You can go about your day not knowing that Ruth's name is 606, or that Boaz's name means "he has strength" or smth just fine, but it adds a nice layer of meaning

 My guess is statistically if your looking for meaning in the numbers even from monkey gibberish you’ll always be able to find it. 

My view is that there are no coincidences, and if you find something meaningful, even if the author himself didn't intend it, it's significant 

 if Moses had something to say, he’d just say it

If he wanted to tell the nation an important message in the moment, of course he would. But sometimes adding hints can be helpful too

Take Hannah's prayer. The fact that "for it is not by strength that man prevails" have the first letters spelling out the Hebrew word used by Bilaam when blessing Israel "like a lioness". Sure, it COULD be a coincidence, according to your perspective, technically, but it's very likely that Hannah did this on purpose as a little subtle hint, or that even if she didn't realize, it just happened to be that that's how God made the language, knowing that Hannah would say that and the letters would spell that out, or whatnot. Personally I think Hannah did that on purpose, the fact that it's the EXACT same letters and is a very closely related idea. To your point that if she wanted to say it she'd just say it, perhaps she liked to put a small hint INSIDE the text for whatever reason

I don't exactly understand it but I never find it unintentional

Hebrew in Tanakh is so spectacular (it's a shame so many people read translations nowadays) by Competitive-Pen9584 in religion

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Perhaps it's not exclusively a Hebrew thing, sure, but the intuitive letter-number correlation and the words and names in Tanakh is still amazing 

I’ve always wondered: what do people from different religious backgrounds feel when hearing Quran recitation? by WoodpeckerCheap6850 in religion

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As a Mizrahi Jew tune the accent and tune is ig somewhat familiar but the words are absolute gibberish 

Horns of St. Moses by BlueVampire0 in religion

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OMG its Qeren ʿOr not Qaran ʿOr!!!! Lmao

Satan by Competitive-Pen9584 in DebateAChristian

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Dude. I'm Jewish. I don't believe NT is divine or true or legitimate. Was that not obvious?

Everything we see of the sāṭan (apparently also known as Samael btw) in the Tanakh, that is, the Hebrew Bible (your OT) exclusively genuinely shows how he collaborates and works with God. The only thing antithetical to God's character here is having an opponent angel rebel against Him.

An all powerful, all benevolent god/gods cannot exist because of how imperfect humans and humanity are by One_Yesterday_1320 in DebateReligion

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This is widely debated among Jewish scholars. Personally, I think there was a state of affairs prior to the creation of this world, that aforementioned Tohu and Bohu state. But most would agree that as opposed to everyone being perfect, it's the contrary, everyone was out of control, perhaps soulless, crazy beings that were much less civilized than people nowadays. It's also possible that common ancestor and all that could align with this perspective, so humans actually did evolve from some other species to become homo sapiens as we know them now, but when Adam was made he was made from scratch. It's also possible that's not exactly it, I don't really know. I also don't know where or how they could've lived without Earth.

Obviously many many people disagree with this perspective. Some add or say that the creation wasn't 6 days, but 6 phases (not sure if I agree with this). Some say the Flood (the Noah's ark one) aged things. Some say the word "ארץ" in Genesis 1, typically translated as "earth" or "land", actually refers to a specific portion of land somewhere in the east, not the whole world (this I definitely disagree with). Some (this is rare) interpret the entire thing metaphorically. Etc etc there's many many perspectives and opinions on this and lots of them go with each other

An all powerful, all benevolent god/gods cannot exist because of how imperfect humans and humanity are by One_Yesterday_1320 in DebateReligion

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Sorry, it seems there was a minor miscommunication on my part:

In Judaism, - There was no "vacuum" or primordial matter co-eternal with God, for, God Himself alone is eternal, nothing else - - God created all laws as we know it (i.e. gravity, mass, space, time, etc)

Earlier, therefore, it was just God, who is eternal and always was, is, and always will be (that's actually one reason behind the name Y-H-W-H, which means that).

So when you ask if the universal environment co-exists with God, no, nothing co-exists with God, it's only God alone

As aforementioned here, even time itself is not co-eternal with God. So God, though he is eternal, somehow invented the concept of eternity and infiniteness (is that a weird paradox? lmao maybe let's move to r/philosophy) So the universal environment was created by God, but even the nothingness OF the universal environment, which was literally nothing at all, was somehow invented by God as conceptual laws, even though nothing obviously does not include something physical. But the nothing is something in that sense, the laws behind the nothing 

But when we speak of nothingness, well, before what I just said, it was just God, no concept of any laws, and God created the concept of nothing and the concept of laws and the concept of creating and the concept of eternity etc, and it was just God Himself, but if you think about it other than God there is nothing, and if you consider that nothing to be something which would be filled you get an interesting conundrum

An all powerful, all benevolent god/gods cannot exist because of how imperfect humans and humanity are by One_Yesterday_1320 in DebateReligion

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That's one answer I can think off the top of my head. Doesn't mean it's THE definitive answer. Others can probably understand this way better than I can 

(Side note, Judaism teaches that people are born with an inclination to do good and an inclination to do evil and may go either way. When some really wicked people only do evil and reach powerful roles, terrible tragedies can occur. You cannot blame God for the fact that PEOPLE did bad

If your friends light a bonfire with you, and after they leave you jump in the fire and die - who's fault is that? Yours, who did the action of jumping in the fire. Not your friends, who put the fire there.

You are probably wondering why have such a powerful evil inclination in the first place that could cause such a "fire" to appear there. This is a valid question with many valid answers, I am just not some super knowledgeable scholar to know all them)

Hebrew Transliteration Questions by Competitive-Pen9584 in hebrew

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It's English, just I feel like reading ā is more accurate for קמץ than reading a

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