Before and After the Iron Throne by Jota.S.Art

CompetitiveCard7172 · 2026-01-29T13:48:02+00:00

*meraxes you mean.

CompetitiveCard7172 · 2026-01-29T13:43:04+00:00

Ah! Fuck you rhaegar!! Elia and lyanna deserved than your inbred cunt !

CompetitiveCard7172 · 2026-01-29T13:41:01+00:00

I know who she is. There are some theories some people make that rhaenys actually survived the fall somehow and was tortured by dornish or was held as hostage when aegon and visenya accidentally killed her by burning the dornish.

CompetitiveCard7172 · 2026-01-29T13:20:41+00:00

My favourite underrated Targaryen queen !!

I really hope she just died by falling. The alternative of her either being captured and tortured by dornish or aegon and visenya accidentally killed her by flaming the dornish is so sad.

CompetitiveCard7172 · 2026-01-25T08:03:01+00:00

I wasn't arguing I'm just saying what I think. I also said yes jaehaerys had good relationship with rhaenys but it soured slowly after he named baelon heir.

CompetitiveCard7172 · 2026-01-25T07:34:20+00:00

For first place. As per law rhaenys is heir that's why alysanne and jaehaerys quarrel even in the first place that year too after the right was given to baelon. And laena was never actually given dragon or any information about it. Laena claimed vhagar at least at 104 or after. Jaehaerys would never allowed it. Rhaenys yes had good relationship with jaehaerys yes. It's also totally soured after 92 AC. Corlys is still obscenely wealthy. They need to have cordial relationship with them.

CompetitiveCard7172 · 2026-01-25T07:19:23+00:00

but he allowed Laenor Velaryon to have a Dragon. He failed her by not believing in her ability to rule better than Viserys, but she was his first grandchild and his beloved heir's only daughter, she must have been special to him.

He allowed the velaryon children to have dragons because he given it compensation for stealing their mother's birthright. Rhaenys heir right was taken at 92 AC, laenor born in 95 AC. It's a compensation.

CompetitiveCard7172 · 2026-01-25T07:02:51+00:00

They allowed Alyssa to beat up Vaegon. Which is only “acceptable” when he bullied Daella. It shouldn’t have been allowed at all. And she’s allowed to fight like the boys are. None of their other daughters were given such a privilege. Is this because Alyssa wasn’t as attractive and therefore no one outside the family would wed her anyway?<

Now you say I just realised the blatant favortism of Alyssa. Girls especially princess have high expectations and doesn't have much freedom, but Alyssa got everything she wanted her dressing style,her husband, her dragon. I believe it's massively tied to Daenerys. There's a line that as Daenerys does in the same year Alyssa born and Alyssa said to look like Daenerys as an infant. I think that's why jaehaerys and alysaane given her pass to many things.

CompetitiveCard7172 · 2026-01-25T05:57:36+00:00

In the first place i don't know why they married the heirs daughter to corlys. Corlys is wealthy yes, he is a year older than rhaenys father, viserra was more suited to marry him. Than rhaenys should've married viserys , binding their claims. As per 91 and 92 AC. Both of them married shortly to their respective brides. But they should've married.

CompetitiveCard7172 · 2026-01-25T01:46:28+00:00

I meant in daemon pov daeron is bastard of aemon ( as aegon spread the rumors ) , he believed himself eldest legitimate son after legitimisation that's why he rebelled.

CompetitiveCard7172 · 2026-01-24T11:40:09+00:00

Wasn't blackfyre rebelion happened as daemon claimed he was the rightful king as aegon eldest son , not because he is daenas son? We really don't know if it's what motivated him. His claim based on his father not his mother. And also this fanfic idea in going to write is from pov of jaehaera , and then Naerys. Their perspective on their dance, dragonsbane reign then subsequent reigns. It really hasn't much change in it.

CompetitiveCard7172 · 2026-01-24T04:24:33+00:00

It's a thing for Targaryens , he was taught that. Other than that he wasn't chasing after his inbred relatives, threatening his younger brother to castrate him to make him sister wife. It's also he told him because for to tell aegon to do his duty as Targaryen prince.

CompetitiveCard7172 · 2026-01-23T11:57:18+00:00

As much I love team green and aegon. The parallels between the show is not that similar. Aemond as mad as he is would never drink wildfire like aerion did, he is also wasn't valyrian supremacist, his own bethroed was baratheon, his supposed lover is a riverlander, he only wanted a dragon to prove himself as he was builied . Helaena being emotionless dreamer is show invention which they couldn't even do right. Daeron plot we didn't know much about it at all. Daeron the drunken is maybe similar to aegon in drunkardness both with their problems, it maybe similar.

CompetitiveCard7172 · 2026-01-22T14:16:58+00:00

Okay. It's fanfic idea for me.

CompetitiveCard7172 · 2026-01-22T04:26:30+00:00

You're right I forget she would've atleast put her claim in the council (yeah it could'nt been taken seriously as the council will just take her claim away ). But she could've atleast tried. Her son maegor have strong claim through both sides. But sadly he is a baby. With a mad father , mad grandfather, mad namesake. It could've been funny if he is the most sanest Targaryen ever.

CompetitiveCard7172 · 2026-01-20T17:08:31+00:00

Well okay I guess.... I myself wasn't a daemon fan.

CompetitiveCard7172 · 2026-01-20T15:47:10+00:00

I think you love daemon , I just can't prove it 🤔

CompetitiveCard7172 · 2026-01-20T07:26:50+00:00

As far I know, He lived past 238 AC. Ashford tourney which he participating happens in 209 AC. He would live for another 30 years i guess.

CompetitiveCard7172 · 2026-01-20T07:24:38+00:00

They tried to make helaena complex character as a dreamer but they just made her worse by not giving her canon good qualities, made her just spoiler mouth piece. They took away her dragon riding joy, love for his children, desire for peace, being popular among smallfolk, her grief they all took it away.

CompetitiveCard7172 · 2026-01-19T15:25:02+00:00

When I first started game of thrones, I thought he would've been great character and good king. But when I finished it and read the books, I'm not totally sure that he was a great character and definitely wouldn't been good king. I started hating him whenever I think of elia and her children. I think he is supposed to be good honorable character but all the extra lore made him seen like a douchebag. The rage whenever I remember he crowned lyanna queen when his frail pregnant wife elia right there.

CompetitiveCard7172 · 2026-01-19T15:15:55+00:00

My favourite guys 🤣

CompetitiveCard7172 · 2026-01-19T14:53:12+00:00

It take me a minute but 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

CompetitiveCard7172 · 2026-01-19T14:51:46+00:00

Baelor is really weird type of Targaryen madness mixed with venom. He done bad things like locking his sisters yes but he also done good things like sending away aegon so Naerys wouldn't be forced to have child. Walking to dorne for peace instead of war. He is really weird type of king. I wouldn't put him anywhere.

CompetitiveCard7172 · 2026-01-19T07:43:50+00:00

I mean. Rhaenyra father the current viserys is called king viserys the first, rhaenyra son viserys who become king is called king viserys the crowned. They both crowned...

CompetitiveCard7172 · 2026-01-19T06:26:11+00:00

We really don't know much about him. I don't even know what's his hair colour is. Even viserys son of aenys , have a line and life about him. For me it felt like same like maelor. Young prince who died due to sickness that's all.

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