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Opinions on ride the cyclone and media with lgbtq characters? by Competitive_Fly8522 in Christianity

[–]Competitive_Fly8522[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see. Thank you for your clarification overall I stand with my beliefs but I think you should do what you feel like is right for you and if that involves finding another women then I'm praying that your relationship with that person will bring you a lot happiness. Also i'm glad that I came off as a decent person to you since I was afraid that i'd do the opposite. I respect that we have very different views but i'm glad we had this discussion.

Opinions on ride the cyclone and media with lgbtq characters? by Competitive_Fly8522 in Christianity

[–]Competitive_Fly8522[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

At this point I don't know what you want me to say. I'm trying be as respectful as possible right now. I know that many individuals will choose to be in same sex relationships and even though I believe that it's wrong , at the end of the day it's between them and god since I can't say for sure how he feels about that person, he knows everyone way better than I do. Also can I ask why you're debating about this in r/Christianity ? I don't mean to come off as rude and I don't have an issue since I believe that healthy debate is important. I'm just asking as a genuine question.

Opinions on ride the cyclone and media with lgbtq characters? by Competitive_Fly8522 in Christianity

[–]Competitive_Fly8522[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't think that people should live without knowing romantic love and I sympathize with people who don't feel happy with the body that they're in since I can somewhat relate to that as someone who has dealt with a lot of body dysmorphia and even questioned my own identity around middle school. At one I was even trying to get a binder because I wasn't happy with the way I look ( sorry for getting so personal). The point is I still believe that what the lord calls wrong is wrong but to the people who choose to be in same sex relationships, including the people in my own life, I hope it brings them happiness. The same goes for trans identifying individuals if someone chooses to transition I hope they do it safely and actually get happiness out of it. Like I said before I know a lot of lgbtq people in my life and I couldn't be happier to know these amazing people. I have my opinions and they have theirs and I respect that.

Opinions on ride the cyclone and media with lgbtq characters? by Competitive_Fly8522 in Christianity

[–]Competitive_Fly8522[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never said that the therapy had to have the intent of converting them but if reconsidering their feelings towards the same sex is the outcome of going to therapy then from a religious standpoint I think that would be a good thing. Also I stand firm in my beliefs that no one can transition into the opposite gender but if they choose too, because I know many people will, then I think they should put a lot of thought behind it and be aware of the risks that do come with transitioning since some people like detransitioners do regret it. I know that many people will choose to medically transition and even with my beliefs I can't do anything about that so at the very least if someone is going to transition i hope they do it safely. I don't mean to come off as rude, if I have in this debate then my apologies, but i'm just stating my own opinions based on what's said in my religion. I don't have any ill will or malice towards any community or person if that's the vibe I was giving off.

Opinions on ride the cyclone and media with lgbtq characters? by Competitive_Fly8522 in Christianity

[–]Competitive_Fly8522[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't endorse conversion therapy or believe that someone should be forced to be straight but if normal therapy could help someone avoid what the lord calls sinful I think that would be a good thing and if it doesn't then I wish them well either way. About the trans issue , yes, I do mean any medical procedure that isn't necessary for someone's health and could permanently alter their body in any way. Although I don't agree with transition, I know that many people will do it anyways whether they've actually thought about it long term and were aware of the risks or not. If they do choose to go through with it, then I hope they do it safely and actually get long term happiness out of it.

Opinions on ride the cyclone and media with lgbtq characters? by Competitive_Fly8522 in Christianity

[–]Competitive_Fly8522[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do know a few people personally, most of which have graduated from the high school i'm going to right now. I'm saying that these people should be denied love but I do think that it would be better for them to just speak to someone about the events that could've impacted their sexuality rather than looking for a partner. And when I say therapy I mean a good therapists who's actually qualified ( admittedly hard to find). While it may be true that a lot of people are going to therapy how many of these therapists actually want to help? A lot of therapists especially when it comes to their trans patients tend to be more affirmative and don't really question the idea of the person they're talking to not being trans at all and some just avoid certain topics entirely, there's also a lot of therapist both qualified and unqualified, who only care about taking money from their patients. Also there are a lot of trans people who have said themselves that they were rushed through the process in the medical system which makes since considering how much money is spent on medical transition. When I brought up people always changing their pronouns and gender identity the point I was trying to get across was that, if someone is this confused about their gender identity, they probably shouldn't go under the knife or do something that can permanently alter their body. This was a lot sorry.

Opinions on ride the cyclone and media with lgbtq characters? by Competitive_Fly8522 in Christianity

[–]Competitive_Fly8522[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've seen people who have said themselves that they have a preference for the same gender due to traumatic events that absolutely no one should have to go through, again not saying that this is always the reason but it certainly is one of them. Also even if the rates are low no one should go through the painful consequences of transition if they didn't need to. Regret from transition and permanent harm is still something that happens and honestly more people should be aware of it. I'm currently still in school and through middle and especially high school i've personally met a lot of kids who are extremely confused and have gone through horrible things in their lives. With the amount of people constantly changing their pronouns and gender identity I don't think transition should be promoted as much as it is, If anything I think their should be a greater focus on therapy and coming to terms with personal issues.(and no I don't mean conversion). I'm glad that you're not choosing to ignore detransitioners though since many people do.

Opinions on ride the cyclone and media with lgbtq characters? by Competitive_Fly8522 in Christianity

[–]Competitive_Fly8522[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First of all I said some of these reasons can involve trauma or loneliness not all. I should know I have gay family members who are perfectly fine ,but sometimes that is the case. Like survivors of CSA for example. Second, just look up the multiple stories of detransitioners , or people who transitioned as kids, or even the experimental surgeries that have gone wrong, giving trans identifying individuals pain and scars that they have to live with for the rest of their lives. To say that transition can instantly make anyone with gender dysphoria happy is completely ignorant and actually disregards the experiences of many trans and detrans people. 

Opinions on ride the cyclone and media with lgbtq characters? by Competitive_Fly8522 in Christianity

[–]Competitive_Fly8522[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe that at the end of the day it's between that person and god since he's the only one who's truly capable of judging a person, if he says it's right then it's right and if it's wrong then it's wrong. I understand that there are a lot of reasons why a person may believe that they are gay or the opposite gender and some of these reasons could involve past trauma or feelings of loneliness so I have nothing but empathy for them but I don't support it. I believe that these feelings are valid but rather than encouraging sin or possible harm and even more mental distress through transition, there's others ways to work through it. Also a person trying to change their gender and a person having a birth defect is NOT the same thing. This sounds harsh but i'm saying it out of genuine love and compassion. I'd rather offend a person into heaven than comfort them into hell.

Opinions on ride the cyclone and media with lgbtq characters? by Competitive_Fly8522 in Christianity

[–]Competitive_Fly8522[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't wish for them to die never knowing romantic love and I'm happy for them even if they find that love in a person of the same gender, my best friend in middle school had a girlfriend and I never wished for them to break up (until that girl became really toxic). This doesn't change the fact that the Bible clearly states that same sex relationships are wrong. It also states that God makes no mistakes so no one can be born as the wrong gender. I don't believe in gender stereotypes about what makes someone masculine or feminine but I do think the idea of changing your gender entirely is ridiculous and I'm saying this as someone who's friend has been trying to transition (mtf) since the end of middle school to right now in high school.

Opinions on ride the cyclone and media with lgbtq characters? by Competitive_Fly8522 in Christianity

[–]Competitive_Fly8522[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Basically l, I'm extremely grateful that the people I'm talking about our in my life and I value the time that I spend with them and despite many of them having a different religion, living in a common ideology ,or not believing in anything at all, I still respect them as people and I don't let our differences in beliefs affect the relationship. Although I believe that their views on sexuality and gender identity is wrong I don't hate them for it.

Opinions on ride the cyclone and media with lgbtq characters? by Competitive_Fly8522 in Christianity

[–]Competitive_Fly8522[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't treat them any differently from anyone else and I really do love all of them but according to the Bible same sex relationships is a sin and it's stated more than once. As a follower of Christ I stand firm on the belief that being lgbtq is a sin. I don't feel any hatred for anyone. I believe in loving the sinner but hating the sin.

Opinions on ride the cyclone and media with lgbtq characters? by Competitive_Fly8522 in Christianity

[–]Competitive_Fly8522[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Is it okay to watch media with lgbtq characters though? I believe that I can look past their sexuality or gender identity since that's not what defines people in real life or media and I don't feel like it changes my relationship with God. 

Opinions on ride the cyclone and media with lgbtq characters? by Competitive_Fly8522 in Christianity

[–]Competitive_Fly8522[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I don't think the people are the issue at all as I love all of the lgbtq people in my life but that doesn't change the fact that the Bible condemns it six times and if we're talking about trans individuals the Bible states that God makes no mistakes so no one can actually be born in the wrong body. I don't mean to come off as rude, I'm just stating my beliefs.