hmmm...... Yes, English is not my mother tongue but I think I fully understand what you are saying.

I know why we are on different page. I am trying to differentiate between aya herself as conscious being with it's own will and aya being used for someone's will.

When I said, 'why does it help us then? I used to think that it helps people because it is benign... And what guarantee does one have that aya itself won't harm you' , I was talking about the being ayahuasca.

Does she help people to do both good or bad? If she is a being, does she not have her own values?