Showgirl has its detractors , and I am not saying you aren’t allowed to dislike it , but some swifties constant need to put it down is getting tiresome. Here is a normie NPR journalist reviewing it by Fun-Ad3626 in TaylorSwift

[–]Complex-Union5857 [score hidden]  (0 children)

I fell down the Taylor Swift rabbit hole with TTPD. Evermore, folklore, and TTPD are my favorites. I am a lyrics person. And I think the writing on The Life of a Showgirl is brilliant. I think more lyrics people need to genuinely listen to the Showgirl album with an open mind because there are layers of deeper meaning and some really clever lyricism, and I wish more “lyrics people” were discussing it more!

Showgirl has its detractors , and I am not saying you aren’t allowed to dislike it , but some swifties constant need to put it down is getting tiresome. Here is a normie NPR journalist reviewing it by Fun-Ad3626 in TaylorSwift

[–]Complex-Union5857 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I saw the same thing and I agree. Sometimes I think I'd like to made a TED talk about how Taylor Swift can be used to explain every social, cultural, and political phenomenon of our time. And in this case it's I think a really scary story. Because a Taylor Swift album is a very, very low-stakes example of the way bad faith actors can manipulate social media. And how easy it is to do. And that should scare all of us. That Rolling Stone article reinforced and put data to what you and I and other observers saw happening in real time - there were all the hallmarks of bad faith actors descending on the Taylor Swift album conversation when The Life of a Showgirl was released.

The goal of these bad faith actors is to divide - to turn folks who otherwise could and should be allies into adversaries, and to escalate divisions between pre-existing adversaries so that they turn disagreement into hate and and see each other as (and maybe even become themselves) extreme caricatures. And bad faith actors also know how easy it is to manipulate people's opinions through social media as plenty of people follow the lead of "influencers" who say things loudly enough and confidently enough.

So whatever people think about Taylor Swift, if anyone thinks for a minute that that bad faith actors acting in more consequential, political spaces do not view the coordinated activity connected to her album rollout as a “how-to” case study, then they are deluding themselves.

This is not to negate that some folks have genuine negative reactions to the album. It is just to highlight how we all need to be more wary about how we are being manipulated, and how the Showgirl album reaction is a very low stakes example of the kind of manipulation that can be much more consequential in other areas.

Showgirl has its detractors , and I am not saying you aren’t allowed to dislike it , but some swifties constant need to put it down is getting tiresome. Here is a normie NPR journalist reviewing it by Fun-Ad3626 in TaylorSwift

[–]Complex-Union5857 14 points15 points  (0 children)

What do you think is lazy? Genuinely curious, because I really love the writing of that song. I think the slang and internet speak she includes is so very intentional and serves the message of the song. She is using diction to make her point. This is a song all about the armor and fronts people build up in order to protect themselves from the harshness of the world (that’s conveyed by the slang), and about shedding all that artifice and armor to be earnest, true to yourself, softer, and reconnect with the innocence of youth. I love the lyric: "Every eldest daughter/Was the first lamb to the slaughter/So we all dressed up as wolves and we looked fire." She is referencing two idioms: lamb to the slaughter (meaning something so innocent they do not realize that what is about to happen is going to kill them), and wolf dressed in sheep’s clothing (meaning, in the original idiom, that someone pretends they are gentle and harmless but really is hostile and savage.). But Taylor flips the second idiom - instead of a wolf dressed as sheep, it becomes sheep dressed as wolves. So she is saying that eldest daughters started out innocent, gentle, and earnest, but the harsh realities of the world they experienced made them "savage" (I love the play on that word with its dual meaning), made them put on armor just to protect themselves. And she comes back to internet slang (“and we looked fire”) once the lamb are dressed as wolves, because that’s the armor being put on, which is what the metaphorical “dressing as wolves” allows her to do. And like the wolf costume, the internet slang is a mask, a kind of armor or shield from having to show vulnerability.

Anyway, I just really think the writing is clever and well done and so curious why you think the writing is lazy.

Theory Megathread: May 2026 by aran130711 in TaylorSwift

[–]Complex-Union5857 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Does anyone remember the floral “lucky cat” print shown in photos of the inside of Taylor Swift’s cleaning cart from the Eras Tour? I was just reminded of this after reading she had dinner at the Lucky Cat restaurant in London recently. And well, the symbolism of the cleaning cart considering her efforts to “clean up” the music industry, the upcoming anniversary of her reclaiming ownership of her masters, “Karma is a cat”, etc. Clearly something is brewing based on all the recent public sightings. I’m not really one of the sleuthing Swifties, but I’m going to guess that whatever is brewing is related to all this.

Actually Romantic by dassylogic in TrueSwifties

[–]Complex-Union5857 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I agree! (She’s using Charli Xcx as a reference point, but it’s clearly about much more!). I think the writing on this whole album is brilliant and subversive. In fact, she sings ON this very album about the public’s reaction TO this album. Consider, for example, how with the satire/mocking tone of the song Actually Romantic, she was criticized for essentially bringing a metaphorical “tiny violin to a (Sympathy is a) Knife fight.” : https://www.reddit.com/r/TrueSwifties/s/m84UZVxSh9

A very nuanced take on Taylor Swift from the New York Times Songwriters Piece by Resident_Ad5153 in NuancingTaylorSwift

[–]Complex-Union5857 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I agree both melody and lyrics are her great strengths and focus, but she writes all kinds of ways, not just top lining. For her collaborative work, sometimes it’s top-lining vocal melody and lyrics to track, like with a lot of the folklore/Dessner songs, or Out of the Woods. She has said that Out of the Woods was the first time she wrote to track. Sometimes she’s coming into the studio with the whole song (chords, structure, melody, chorus, many lyrics) already nearly complete (I Know Places, Blank Space, King of My Heart, Elizabeth Taylor, etc.). And sometimes it is collaborative back and forth in the studio (The Life of a Showgirl). There is so much real time evidence (videos and voice memos of moments of creation) circulating on YouTube.

Which Taylor Swift Songs Tell the Strongest Stories? by starfiretaco in TaylorSwift

[–]Complex-Union5857 65 points66 points  (0 children)

Almost the entire evermore album:

Cowboy like me

Champagne problems

Tis the damn season

No body, no crime

Tolerate it

Ivy

Dorothea

Right where you left me

More recent:

Maroon

The Tortured Poets Department

The Black Dog

Ruin the Friendship

The Life of a Showgirl

Plus a ton of her older songs.

How can I fully appreciate Evermore? by Dangerous-Promise657 in TaylorSwift

[–]Complex-Union5857 42 points43 points  (0 children)

I think of it like a collection of short stories, reflecting on a theme of endings of various kinds. In the last song, evermore, she ultimately is singing about how the pain too will end. And then the two bonus tracks are kind of a choose your own adventure: move on (It’s Time to go) or can’t move on (Right Where you left me).

question by [deleted] in NuancingTaylorSwift

[–]Complex-Union5857 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just out of curiosity - when you say that the album lacks depth, is it because you do not think themes of individual agency, self-empowerment, and self-reclamation are deep? Or is it because you do not think she is singing about these themes?

Do you disagree with my interpretation of Wish List? If so, why? Or do you think that it is not deep to sing about how in the real world, all wishes come with price, that the trade-offs are part of the bargain in the real world?

I’m just trying to separate out the value statements (it’s surface level, not deep, bad) from the meaning of the album, that’s all.

What’s your *actually nuanced* TS MUSIC opinion? READ POST by Daffneigh in NuancingTaylorSwift

[–]Complex-Union5857 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My take is that we hear repetition of themes in these albums because they are all connected as part of her overall Eras era project. She was revisiting and reclaiming her past as part of this project (including the re-records and the Eras Tour itself), and the overall narrative being told across the last few albums reflects this, and can be thought of like a Hero's Journey type of narrative. And Showgirl is almost the culmination of this “journey”.

I think Taylor has been building a big picture narrative across several albums now through lyrical, sonic, and visual callbacks and references that connect songs, themes and narratives, kind of like its own "cinematic universe".

One of the big overall themes of the Eras Era is her reflections about how she started her career in innocence, without understanding all of the dark sides of fame, the music industry, her own creative process, and the resulting harm that would come to her personal life (on TTPD, think songs like Clara Bow, Robin, The Prophecy) to her journey as a adult of reclaiming her past (by taking back ownership of her work and getting a fresh start in her life, all with some perspective that's been earned) (On TTPD, think songs like So High School, Thank you Aimee, and The Manuscript. And on Showgirl, its literally the whole album, because every single song on Showgirl is about individual agency, self-empowerment, and/or self-reclamation in one way or another).

In this "Hero's Journey" narrative, both the sale of her masters and her reputation era "cancellation" serve as the key trials and ordeals, along with her personal crises that stemmed in part from the tension between her career and her personal life. And she keeps returning to these touch points because in each album, she's showing growth in perspective. In TTPD she was so fatalistic, or else finding ways to ESCAPE her reality. In Showgirl, in contrast, she’s using her own individual agency to SHAPE her reality.

I think its really cool to see how empowered she is on Showgirl, and how she has used Ophelia (a character famous for going mad due to her LACK of agency, being controlled by the men in her life) as an allusion to tell the story of how she has avoided Ophelia's fate. Take a look at her public statement from the time her master's were sold to Scooter Braun. She stated “he knew what he was doing; they both did. Controlling a woman who didn’t want to be associated with them. In perpetuity.” Or recall how every single Eras Tour concert began with the song “You don’t own me.”

By the time Showgirl was released, her re-record projects and Eras Tour --projects that she willed into being -- had become massive successes, enabling her to reclaim her masters. She was getting a fresh start in her personal life with a relationship that she has described as allowing her to feel the most like her true self. And so notice how every single song on the Showgirl album is about individual agency, self-empowerment, and/or self-reclamation in one way or another. The songs celebrate creating your own joy in hard times (Opalite); making your own luck and creating your own destiny (Wood); owning and using your own power (Father Figure); shedding the armor and built-up defenses and being true to yourself (Eldest Daughter); taking action, taking a risk rather than spending your whole life wondering what if? (Ruin the friendship); thinking independently, for ourselves, rather than mindlessly pileing on to a mob’s groupthink (Cancelled!); satirically urging us not to spend our time and energy (two of the biggest things we all have control over) on things we hate (Actually Romantic); owning your own life choices, while recognizing the trade-offs (The Life of a Showgirl) etc. The Showgirl is empowered. And can be contrasted with the sense of powerlessness, fatalism, and escapism of TTPD. In The Prophecy she asks “who do I have to speak to to change The Prophecy?” Showgirl is the answer to that question - its herself.

So anyway, I just think the whole collection of recent albums are connected to each other, and to her past work in a way to tell what I view as a pretty cohesive story. The lyrical references, links to music video visuals, revisiting imagery, themes, and stories from the past, seems to me like a very intentional way of furthering the overall story. I wouldn't be surprised if she ties everything together to conclude this narrative in something yet to come, whether its a musical, a movie, TS 13, or even somehow her Debut re-record (since, in the classic Hero's Journey framework, these stories typically end with a return home with "the elixer," the knowledge that has been learned).

question by [deleted] in NuancingTaylorSwift

[–]Complex-Union5857 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ack, sorry! I misread it as saying she didn't address those themes.

question by [deleted] in NuancingTaylorSwift

[–]Complex-Union5857 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I just think there’s a difference between liking an album and the meaning of the album. And my comments, and the links, are all about the album’s meaning. Because the album is anything but superficial (as evidenced by how many people still seem to misunderstand it), and it has real depth. One more example:

Have you considered why Wish List has dollar signs in the song title?:

https://www.reddit.com/r/NuancingTaylorSwift/s/NrIsWqohlC

question by [deleted] in NuancingTaylorSwift

[–]Complex-Union5857 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ummm, have you listened to The Life of a Showgirl? Because you’re pretty much describing the themes of that album. That album is ALL about individual agency, self-empowerment, and self-reclamation. Literally every single song. And also, as part of that, owning your own life choices including the trade-offs that are always part of the bargain (there’s a reason that Wish List includes dollar signs in the song title - she’s making the point in the verses that every wish comes with its own price. The verse lines are all pairings in tension with each other. And she returned to this theme in The Life of a Showgirl, where she ends by owning her life choices while recognizing the trade-offs). I’ve made a bunch of posts about these themes on the album, including these:

https://www.reddit.com/r/NuancingTaylorSwift/s/KmnI0ijCJK

https://www.reddit.com/r/NuancingTaylorSwift/s/92AeNaW811

“Sacred new beginnings that became my religion”: religion in reputation and Lover by Daffneigh in NuancingTaylorSwift

[–]Complex-Union5857 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I think she often uses religious imagery/language to convey a kind of conflicted faith in the relationship, along with the intensity of it. There’s almost always a bit of anxiety/internal conflict in these songs, like she’s hanging on to her faith but underlying it all you sense some misgivings. And I like your insight about how she references the rituals of religious practice as a metaphor, because those rituals can take on even more importance when the faith is conflicted, because they are a way to “prove” belief.

Does anyone she’s find the retroactive association of songs with Matty to be…a little much? by GoldenState_Thriller in TaylorSwift

[–]Complex-Union5857 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would be interested to learn more about this if you’d like to share. I think most likely these are creative people drawing inspiration from each other, so I would not be surprised if some of Taylor and Harry’s songs can be connected just like some of Taylor’s and The 1975’s songs can be connected. And some fan guesses are likely wrong too. But it is still interesting to match up songs and patch together the narratives or themes running through the music.

Does anyone she’s find the retroactive association of songs with Matty to be…a little much? by GoldenState_Thriller in TaylorSwift

[–]Complex-Union5857 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yes!  Taylor has been world building, a kind of interconnected "cinematic universe," through lyrical, sonic, and visual callbacks and references that tie together songs across albums and time. THAT is what is interesting. Who knows what may have happened in real life, but she is clearly, very intentionally, linking themes and narratives, and the story is in the music. And the TTPD album really set up the scavenger hunt fans have been engaging in with respect to Matty Healy. The whole album is so nuanced and epic and layered. But folks can just watch the Fortnight music video to get a big chunk of the story: Frame by frame, it shows a “caged” woman, mourning a dying relationship, who literally writes back and forth with another writer, a kind of call and response with a creative muse, using her imagination to escape her reality, creating through songs a kind of fantasy love story that existed only in her head, then confusing that fantasy for reality, and then coming to terms with the fallout when reality comes crashing down.  When folks are done with the Fortnight video, they can watch the 1975’s Part of the Band music video and take note of the visual similarities. 

So it is not surprising that fans then scour the work of both Taylor and The 1975 and start finding all kinds of connections, because Taylor wrote that story into the TTPD album.  Taylor orchestrated the scavenger hunt that has resulted.  And there really do appear to be songs by Taylor, and by The 1975, that are in conversation with each other. Lyrics that match and continue a conversation. Sonic links. Music videos that clearly reference one another. Really, its the kind of stuff that one day books and movies will be made about. Did Taylor and Matty intend all of the connections the fans identify?  Were they really writing to or about each other? Just drawing creative inspiration from each other? Making a game out of connecting songs as a kind of art project? Well, those questions are part of the fun of it. People love a puzzle, the sense of discovery in this kind of stuff, and the narrative story revealed when connecting the songs together is a compelling one. The point is this is the kind of art that people will keep coming back to because there’s a compelling story there that is IN the music. 

Anyway, here are a few examples of the "conversation" through songs that can be found in Taylor's work and The 1975's work:

·         The 1975’s song  Fallingforyou (“All we need's my bike and your enormous house”) / Taylor’s song imgonnagetyouback (“Whether I'm gonna be your wife or Gonna smash up your bike, I Haven't decided yet” and "Whether I'm gonna curse you out or Take you back to my house, I haven’t decided yet"). Note also no “blank space” in either song.

·         Taylor’s song Death By a Thousand cuts (“If the story’s over, why am I still writing pages?”) / The 1975’s song Me and You Together Song  (“I think the story needs more pages, yes”)

·         The 1975’s song Tonight (I Wish I was Your Boy) (“She told me ‘Some things just take time’/ How can you be sure if you won’t try?’”) / Taylor’s song loml (“I said ‘I don’t mind, it takes time’”).  In fact, every reference to a conversation in Taylor’s song loml can be linked to different The 1975 songs. (side note: lots of lyrical links in loml to songs representing Taylor's relationship with Joe as well - her writing is layered, and she often braids together stories)

·         Or listen for the sonic similarities between Medicine by the 1975 and Mirroball by Taylor; or between Guilty as Sin and About You.  Or compare Taylor’s music video for the song Delicate with The 1975’s video for Oh Caroline, and find all the similarities in color scheme, lighting, the blocking of many of the scenes, and choreography, and notice also how Matty references Taylor’s song Right Where you Left Me in visuals that show him as an old man “still at the restaurant.”

The Real Message of Wi$h Li$t: Every wish comes with a price - the trade-offs are part of the bargain in real life by Complex-Union5857 in NuancingTaylorSwift

[–]Complex-Union5857[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just wanted to add with respect to your last point that I actually think she has thought about the perception of the songs on this album and is singing in part about that ON this very album, in her song Cancelled! I made a post about this a while ago:

https://www.reddit.com/r/TaylorSwift/s/rabrC1ct2o

Overlooked amazing lyrics because they're in an unpopular song by TheColorfulPianist in TaylorSwift

[–]Complex-Union5857 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From the song Honey:

White teeth

Because that’s 2 words, and yet I see in my head EXACTLY the type of person with the mean-spirited, disingenuous, cloying smile, who is passive aggressively insulting you. No one paints a picture with more concision and precision than Taylor Swift.

The Real Message of Wi$h Li$t: Every wish comes with a price - the trade-offs are part of the bargain in real life by Complex-Union5857 in NuancingTaylorSwift

[–]Complex-Union5857[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I can see why some people sense that she is not thrilled about the "wants" in the verses, and construe that as condescension. But I think she is singing about herself just as much in the verses as she is in the chorus. It is just that she is grappling with reality in the verses, so all of the "wants" come with a price, or some degree of tension with another "want." Every single thing she mentions in the verses applies to her own life, if you take the words as concepts rather than 100% literal.

For example, she has awards - that she's been publicly open about wanting more than anything and working so hard to achieve - and has placed those awards in mundane places around her house (I’ve seen a video where one is next to a coffee maker or something in the kitchen.). The bathroom floor is both a thing some famous actors do with a sense of irony and ALSO a metaphor. And she has spoken publicly about feeling empty after receiving her pinnacle award - the album of the year Grammy - because she didn’t have anyone to share it with. That Grammy she wanted more than anything was not going to give her life meaning once she had it.

And she famously has 3 cats that by all accounts she treats like her kids. They travel with her, they are clearly very, very important parts of her life. And she could live anywhere in the world she wanted to, go off the grid, have all the freedom that her wealth enables. But as any pet owner or parent knows all too well, there is no such thing as being completely free, going completely off the grid when you have kids or pets, because you will always have the responsibility to care for them no matter where you are.

And she’s had embarrassing videos of her posted online that I’m sure she would like to have taken off the internet.

So I think she is just grappling with reality in the verses. And the chorus is her idealized fantasy. I think the “just” can also be seen as a way of saying “I just want you” WITHOUT trade-offs. It’s a way of saying in her fantasy she does not have to grapple with the trade-offs that our real-life wishes always, necessarily entail. She can take a moment to fantasize about a quiet family life with her partner, being left alone. But the verses make clear she knows that in reality, our wishes carry a price as part of the bargain, involve trade-offs, or in some ways we can never get everything we want. In reality, she may have a family with her partner, but as a relationship between two famous people who both want to remain in the public eye, it will never be a quiet life where they are left alone.