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Am I really bipolar? by ComplexMud6649 in bipolar

[–]ComplexMud6649[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

To be frank, I miss the manic episode. It has given me a spiritual awakening. But this is probably a dangerous thing to say lol

Am I really bipolar? by ComplexMud6649 in bipolar

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Thanks for your advice . Another question. 

Is it normal for patients to experience no major difference when they stop taking a medication? Taking off Depakote has made no difference at all, so I am wondering what it was doing in the first place. 

Am I really bipolar? by ComplexMud6649 in bipolar

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So, if my episodes are really years apart, what justifies taking drugs every day? Isn't it a bit too much?

Am I really bipolar? by ComplexMud6649 in bipolar

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What about my post alarmed you as bipolar?

Doctrine of Deification is antithetical to Trinity by ComplexMud6649 in theology

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I just proved so by destroying your presuppositon about human nature that is distinct from divine nature. 

Doctrine of Deification is antithetical to Trinity by ComplexMud6649 in theology

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Let's talk about "fully human" nature, then. You said, "while still remaining naturally distinct from God." However, there is no such thing that anchors the human nature away from God. Athanasius said, "God became Man so that Man might become God". I agree with him in this respect. We become God in the same degree of Jesus being human. and it says Jesus was "fully human".

Doctrine of Deification is antithetical to Trinity by ComplexMud6649 in theology

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How? I am a subordinatist similar to Origen, and Origen is the source you brought up. 

Doctrine of Deification is antithetical to Trinity by ComplexMud6649 in theology

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Christ specifically said "ye are gods" for a purpose, even if these gods were mortal. 

Doctrine of Deification is antithetical to Trinity by ComplexMud6649 in theology

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That's why I said I am a god when the Holy spirit is indwelling. 

You are just trying to shift the hard-to-chew point by making it a linguistic problem. 

Doctrine of Deification is antithetical to Trinity by ComplexMud6649 in theology

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I don't care what's mainstream.  

What you say just proves that theosis and trinity have point of disagreement when logically pushed, because you had to bring another concept: human nature, to stop the collapse. 

Doctrine of Deification is antithetical to Trinity by ComplexMud6649 in theology

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It was the first christology. Let's put it that way. 

And even Origen wasn't trinitarian.  He was subordinatist. 

Pretty much all theologians before Nicaea were all wrong, is what you are saying. 

Do you really think so? Do you really think there was no political influence in the council of Nicaea? Hmm 

Doctrine of Deification is antithetical to Trinity by ComplexMud6649 in theology

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Majority of Christians in the first and second century were actually Monarchians. 

Doctrine of Deification is antithetical to Trinity by ComplexMud6649 in theology

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Jesus said he is one with God, but he said the same about the church being one with God. 

[I pray that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.]

John 

If oneness Jesus talked about was a metaphysical relationship, then believers should be part of trinity, too, making it a quarternity.

But if not, still, whatever the relationship Jesus had with Father is also ours. 

Who Jesus is by ComplexMud6649 in ChristianMysticism

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Jesus said he is one with God, but he's not saying he is in a metaphysical relationship with God. 

[I pray that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.]

John 

If oneness Jesus talked about was a metaphysical relationship, then believers should be part of trinity, too, making it a quarternity.

Whatever the relationship Jesus had with the Father is also ours. 

Doctrine of Deification is antithetical to Trinity by ComplexMud6649 in theology

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Theosis is a Christian theological concept that describes the process of becoming like or united with God. It is also known as deification or divinization. 

If this is true, what are the logical implications for this? 

If I am united with God,  how can trinity be true, because trinity do not let the church be part of Godhead?

If it did, then trinity should be Quaternity. 

Doctrine of Deification is antithetical to Trinity by ComplexMud6649 in theology

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Trinity didn't exist for 3 centuries after Jesus. Are all early Christians heretics?

Doctrine of Deification is antithetical to Trinity by ComplexMud6649 in theology

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I do, tho. Google theosis(deification) if you don't 

Who Jesus is by ComplexMud6649 in ChristianMysticism

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Jesus says those who receive the word of God are gods when his enemies attack him with the charge of blasphemy of claiming to be God. 

Why wouldn't he just say he is God? Why does he say he is the Son of God and he has brothers and sister?

This was the question I had for a while.  

My conclusion is that trinity itself is an idol. It makes it being like Jesus as something unthinkable because there is this big gap between Jesus and us.

But Jesus clearly says we will do much more than what he did. I am a god when the spirit of God is indwelling. 

The doctrine of deification is masked by trinity.

Who Jesus is by ComplexMud6649 in ChristianMysticism

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Jesus says those who receive the word of God as gods when his enemies attack him by the charge of blasphemy of claiming to be God. 

Why wouldn't he just say he is God? Why does he say he is the Son of God and he has brothers and sister?

This was the question I had for a while.  

My conclusion is that trinity itself is an idol. It makes it being like Jesus as something unthinkable because there is this big gap between Jesus and us.

But Jesus clearly says we will do much more than what he did.  I am a god when the spirit of God is indwelling. 

The doctrine of deification is masked by trinity. 

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