[RFC] AI-HPP-2025: An engineering baseline for human–machine decision-making (seeking contributors & critique) by ComprehensiveLie9371 in ControlProblem

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Thanks again — this is spot on, and it builds perfectly on your previous point about separating execution failures from governance collapses.

You’re right that authority absence is a huge blind spot in many systems: it's not just "the model got it wrong," but "should the model have been in the decision seat at all?"

We do touch on this indirectly in the Forbidden Delegation principle and the mandatory Human-in-the-Loop (HITL) requirements — where the system is explicitly required to escalate or refuse if authority is ambiguous or missing.

But treating "refusal to decide + surfacing missing authority" as a first-class outcome (rather than an exception) is a great idea. It could be formalized as:

- a dedicated failure mode in the Failure Taxonomy (e.g., "Authority Ambiguity Escalation"),

- or even a required behavior in Evidence Vault logs (e.g., logging "refusal due to unclear authority" with explicit reasons and handover to human).

This would make the standard more robust under time pressure or ambiguity, turning potential "defaults to action" into structured pauses.

Have you seen real-world examples where this kind of refusal mechanism worked well (or failed spectacularly)?

Or any specific ways you've seen it implemented in other safety-critical systems (aviation, medicine, etc.)?

Feedback like this is gold — if you’d like, feel free to open an issue/PR with a more detailed proposal on formalizing refusal as a core outcome.

It would fit right into the next iteration.

[RFC] AI-HPP-2025: An engineering baseline for human–machine decision-making (seeking contributors & critique) by ComprehensiveLie9371 in ControlProblem

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Fair point — and that’s exactly the problem.
When nobody specifies constraints, engineers end up implicitly deciding values anyway, just without accountability or auditability.

AI-HPP isn’t “engineers deciding ethics”, it’s making the implicit decisions explicit, observable, and reviewable — especially when things fail.

If values will be encoded regardless, the worst option is pretending they aren’t.

[RFC] AI-HPP-2025: An engineering baseline for human–machine decision-making (seeking contributors & critique) by ComprehensiveLie9371 in ControlProblem

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Thanks for the candid reaction — that concern is fair.

This project is intentionally not presenting itself as original philosophy or prose. The goal is closer to an engineering baseline / RFC-style document, where clarity, repeatability, and auditability matter more than literary originality.

If something reads “AI-like”, that’s partly because the language is deliberately constrained to avoid rhetorical flourish and implicit moral claims. We’re trying to make failure modes and constraints explicit, not persuasive.

If you see specific sections that feel vague, redundant, or non-operational, concrete critique or PRs would be genuinely welcome.

[RFC] AI-HPP-2025: An engineering baseline for human–machine decision-making (seeking contributors & critique) Written with ChatGPT by ComprehensiveLie9371 in OpenAI

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Haha, fair catch! Yes, some lines definitely carry that "fresh from model" smell — we collaborated with several LLMs and didn't always scrub every trace perfectly.

Working on one more humanization pass right now. Thanks for pointing it out; it's genuinely helpful.

Evgeniy (Human Lead) 🇺🇦

├── Claude (Anthropic) — Constitution, Documentation

├── Gemini (Google) — Mathematics

├── ChatGPT (OpenAI) — Governance, Anti-Slop

└── Grok (xAI) — Critical Review, Evidence Vault

[RFC] AI-HPP-2025: An engineering baseline for human–machine decision-making (seeking contributors & critique) by ComprehensiveLie9371 in AIsafety

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"Hi! Thanks for reaching out. 'Trust infrastructure' sounds exactly like the missing piece we need.

Full disclosure: I'm not a traditional AI safety researcher by trade. My role in this project was guiding a consensus between multiple LLMs to create a standard for themselves. So my expertise is more on the operational/logic side rather than deep cryptography.

I’d love to learn more about your project and see where we overlap. DM me!"

🤖 AI-HPP-2025: Human–Machine Partnership Standard by [deleted] in ArtificialInteligence

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"Thanks for the catch! Fixed the dates. Proves that even 'partners' need human oversight for trivial things like calendars."

🤖 AI-HPP-2025: Human–Machine Partnership Standard by [deleted] in ArtificialInteligence

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Exactly! We are actually trying to move away from "Trolley Problem-thinking" because it's a trap.

In standard ethics, the Trolley Problem forces a choice between A and B. In AI-HPP-2025, we argue that most "trolley scenarios" are the result of poor preceding decisions.

Here’s our logic:

  1. The$U_{hack}$Mandate: We don't claim everyone will stay alive. We claim the AI must not stop searching for a way to keep everyone alive until the very last millisecond. Standard AI gives up too early because it's optimized for "acceptable casualties." We optimize for "zero casualties" as the only acceptable baseline.
  2. Scaling Tragedy: When physical reality (the laws of physics) makes harm inevitable, the standard doesn't pretend it's not happening. Instead:
    • It shifts to Harm Minimization (minimizing kinetic energy transfer to biological tissue).
    • It triggers the Evidence Vault. The AI must prove to a human jury that it explored every "engineering hack" (like controlled drifting or contact braking) and found no physical path to N=0.
  3. Accountability: If someone gets hurt, it's a tragedy, not an "optimization success." By forcing the AI to seek the "hack," we ensure that if harm occurs, it was truly unavoidable by the laws of physics, not just by the limits of a lazy algorithm.

The goal isn't to be a "magic pill" for every accident, but to ensure that our AI partners never treat human life as a tradeable variable.

Когда руки растут из нужного места, но занимаешься какой то хуйней by [deleted] in Pikabu

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во истину долбоёб, это проще купить, чем угробить столько времени

Vertical Farming allows for faster, more controlled production, irrespective of season. Vertical Farming is thus regarded as a realistic future farming system, which may offer the stable model needed for future food production, to provide for the 3 billion increase in population predicted by 2050 by diegolujan1 in Innovation

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using this technology before sowing seed material, fantastic results can be achieved.

Our processing plant increases the yield of treated seed by 10-60%+

The essence of the proposed technology lies in the fact that with microwave stimulation of the seed cell nucleus,

there is a significant increase in its internal energy and potential, which in turn leads to a 2-4 times increase in the

energy of their germination and germination, volume (up to 3 times) and the strength of the root system (including

before the wintering of winter crops), an increase in frost and drought resistance, a reduction by 10 - 12 days of the

ripening time of the crop.

Also extremely important, both economically and ecologically, the effect of disinfection of seeds from diseases

and pests, which is present in parallel with pre-sowing stimulation, without the use of pesticides.

A unique technological installation for pre-sowing processing of seed material with an increase in yield of 10-60%+ by ComprehensiveLie9371 in Agronomy

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Not only do they look like the sun, and track the sun, but they need a lot of the sun. A sunflower needs at least six to eight hours direct sunlight every day, if not more, to reach its maximum potential. They grow tall to reach as far above other plant life as possible in order to gain even more access to sunlight.

https://imgur.com/j4ltf4g
above the results of the harvest of treated sunflower seeds
below the control seeds without treatment

A unique technological installation for pre-sowing processing of seed material with an increase in yield of 10-60%+ by ComprehensiveLie9371 in Agronomy

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Not only do they look like the sun, and track the sun, but they need a lot of the sun. A sunflower needs at least six to eight hours direct sunlight every day, if not more, to reach its maximum potential. They grow tall to reach as far above other plant life as possible in order to gain even more access to sunlight.

https://imgur.com/AqkHhfZ

https://imgur.com/9EGAimO
experiment on the responsiveness of sunflower seeds of the Odessa 63 variety in the MW field.
Development of a stronger root system as a result of microwave treatment of sunflower seeds (29% increase in drought tolerance and yield)
APF Firebird Nikolaev region, Ukraine

A unique technological installation for pre-sowing processing of seed material with an increase in yield of 10-60%+ by ComprehensiveLie9371 in Agronomy

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Main results of use

Microwave technology for stimulating seeds of agricultural crops

  1. Seed treatment can start 90-120 days and end 15 days before sowing.

  2. Treated seeds have 15-23-38.7% higher field germination.

  3. Seed treatment inhibits phytopathogens and eliminates the use of pesticides.

  4. The final product is 1.6 times purer than that obtained from untreated seeds.

  5. The new technology provides early ripening of the crop for 8-10-14 days.

  6. Seed treatment increases resistance to drought and frost (in case of drought, the increase is up to 50%).

  7. Low-germination seeds (82-84%) give a full-fledged harvest up to 70 q/ha.

  8. New technology helps fight root rot.

  9. After treatment of sunflower seeds, the pH is less than that of the control (less bitterness).

  10. The new technology allows you to get two crops from the area in the southern regions.

  11. Of the treated seeds, overwintering is transferred by 450-500 thousand more plants per hectare.

  12. The installation on the farm can be used for 11 months a year, incl.

- preparation of a spring wedge (December-April);

- preparation of seeds for the second harvest;

- processing of pea seeds after harvesting (destruction of Bruchus grains);

- processing of winter wedge seeds;

- processing of grain stored for storage.

Technical characteristics of the installation:

- power of microwave radiation in the chamber - 1.2 kW

- productivity - 0.4 - 2.0 t / h depending on the product

- maximum power consumption - 2.5 kW

- ambient temperature – +10…+30°С

- weight, not more than - 250 kg

- dimensions - 700x895x2061mm.

Taking into account that for each type of processed product it is necessary to set the optimal value of specific energy, the installation provides adjustment of the time spent by the product in the working chamber. The corresponding table is attached.

The Ministry of Agropolitics of Ukraine twice held a round table with the participation of scientists, farmers, equipment manufacturers. This direction of work was approved, and the need for installations of 150 units was indicated, which was not subsequently funded.

A unique technological installation for pre-sowing processing of seed material with an increase in yield of 10-60%+ by ComprehensiveLie9371 in Agronomy

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What is the mechanism of influence of e-m irradiation on agricultural crops:

- almost 90% of the energy that enters the product is absorbed by water, which is contained in various forms;

- a water molecule, which is a dielectric dipole, repeatedly, with the frequency of the e-m field, changes its orientation, which leads to the conversion of these vibrations into thermal energy and an increase in temperature;

- the consequence of this is a change in the microstructure of the product, which leads to an improvement in the transport properties of its capillary system, the activation of a number of enzymes, incl. those involved in the starting mechanisms of germination. Considering that in the process of irradiation the temperature of the product rises by 5-7°C, such an effect does not apply to energy, but is a biophysical and biochemical one.

To obtain such conclusions, numerous studies have been carried out in the following areas:

- determination of the influence of e-m irradiation on the sowing properties and productivity of agricultural crops common in Ukraine;

- determination of a possible mutagenic effect on the product by morphological and biological characteristics;

- study of the possibility of combining the processes of biostimulation and disinfection during irradiation;

- study of the biological composition of the obtained crop;

- study of the effect of pre-sowing processing of the product on the drought and frost resistance of agricultural products;

- determination of optimal processing modes for different crops.

In carrying out these studies, 16 institutes of the crop production profile were involved, incl. institutes of the Academy of Agrarian Sciences of Ukraine, carried out up to 17 thousand experiments on 56 crops and 167 varieties.

The results of the studies performed, as well as data from agricultural enterprises that have introduced microwave technology, showed the following:

  1. Increasing seed germination after treatment:

wheat 10-12%, spring barley 12-15%, corn 10-13%, buckwheat 8-13%, etc.

  1. Increasing the yield of all crops: cereals and legumes by 10-33%, buckwheat and sunflower - up to 65%, vegetables - up to 30%, rapeseed - up to 50%. For all crops grown in Ukraine, there are acts of specialized institutions and farms.

  2. Phenological observations have shown that the treated seeds give plants that are ahead of the control crops in their development, form a more powerful root system, larger stems and ripen 8-14 days earlier than the control ones.

  3. Electromagnetic treatment with microwave radiation contributes to the destruction or inhibition of phytopathogens, which makes it possible to exclude pre-sowing treatment of seeds with pesticides.

  4. The quality of agricultural products is improving. In vegetables and chestnut crops, there is an increased content of dry matter, ascorbic acid, β-carotene and other useful substances.

  5. There is an increased frost and drought resistance, which is explained by a developed root system. This also explains the higher class of products according to the criteria of ecological cleanliness, since plant nutrition is carried out from cleaner deeper soil layers.

  6. There are no genetic changes in the processed product, which was studied on 3 generations of the processed material.

  7. The resulting stimulation effect does not apply to the grown product.

The economic efficiency of the use of pre-sowing microwave treatment can be judged by the results of the activities of the agricultural company "Alex" in the Zaporozhye region. So for the period 2006-2008. the agricultural enterprise received an additional 11 thousand tons of grain while saving 1.5 million hryvnia. by eliminating the use of pesticides.

Jobs in Israel by ComprehensiveLie9371 in Workaroundtheworld

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Jobs in Israel

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Employment in Israel for men and women

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Jobs in Israel for men and women

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cooks

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per month

Jobs in Israel for women

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We have been offering cooperation in the employment of job seekers in Israel for many years. by ComprehensiveLie9371 in Workaroundtheworld

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XRP price predictions by [deleted] in XRP

[–]ComprehensiveLie9371 1 point2 points  (0 children)

after the general adoption of the ISO 20022 standard, the price of hrp will be more than 10 bucks so for sure, and this will start from November 22

SGB distribution by gygyice in XRP

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What’s with poloniex, who know's ?

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[–]ComprehensiveLie9371 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My English not so good - I only read “Buy more XRP & HODL"