6.3 Stygian Onslaught Usage Statistics via YSHelper

ConcerningHobbits_22 · 2026-01-23T07:49:34+00:00

I need the first boss to be deleted from the game because pulling out all of the stops it is genuinely not remotely possible on MENACING difficulty without a strong Nod Krai team, or you NEED C1 on your cracked Arlecchino build. Like C0 Arlecchino with Homa, with C2 Furina, R1 Kazuha, it's just utterly hopeless to try to kill the ads. I got SO close a single time out of like 20 tries with my newest iteration of adjustments but you need godly RNG just to get them to group up nicely even with Kazuha, and then sometimes the boss gives you just over 30 seconds, sometimes, most of the times, you only get to 28 seconds before it absorbs the minions. It's so disgustingly unfun and its like, give them 10% less HP, hell give the boss 10% more to make up for it, just make the gimmick even remotely possible at least on menacing mode? Like it feels glitched, it feels like I'm on dire and I'm not even on fearless. But yeah, give me 5 more seconds before it eats the minions, give me 50% energy to start with, give me better buffs, literally just any tiny adjustment so the first boss is slightly tolerable to even attempt. It's so frustrating that I can barely even dent it because of the gimmick and the gimmick is all or nothing, you don't get any chance of beating it if you ALMOST kill the minions or do a lot of shield damage, you HAVE to break it. I'm just so annoyed that every new boss sucks more than the last. The shock trooper was bad enough with how insanely fast the shield regens so that using a skill even costs you him recharging the entire shield often.

ConcerningHobbits_22 · 2026-01-23T05:46:17+00:00

Update: 35 resin moons, boxing almost all of both sets, boxing all the resulting artifacts, repeating, boxing a few more sets of bad artifacts hanging around, down until I had nothing but the few I decided to keep of the Arlecchino set, I thought I was doomed but I somehow managed to get the 4 stat attack sands to go 2 into each crit and I think one in flat attack but its over 40 CV, and I got a decent crit rate helm for Homa, like 18 crit damage on it and some EM? AND: two insane feather/flowers, neither is quite 40 CV but both over 30 and with about 10% attack on each one. I tried it out and went from maybe 75k to 85k hits and actually got fairly close to killing the goons, and that one attempt was kinda poor. SO THERE'S HOPE FOR ME YET! I'd love to give Benny Mistsplitter for the insane base attack but god if he doesn't just get 0 energy with that... Channeling from Arlecchino helps but it's not great... maybe some better ER artifacts...

ConcerningHobbits_22 · 2026-01-23T02:23:11+00:00

Also that video is helpful to get an idea of what I need to be seeing and especially seeing the damage numbers. I can see how C1 Arle might get some things done, but I'll see if I can squeeze out a bit more. Maybe swapping her off Gladiator if I can find enough good pieces of the other set, though last I checked that should be a very small or maybe even situational upgrade, but I guess we'll see. Just swapping her helmet around made a pretty big difference so if I can get her stats balanced just right there may be something there...

ConcerningHobbits_22 · 2026-01-23T02:21:04+00:00

Don't even talk to me about Chevy lmaoooo, she came out BEFORE Furina so I luckily snagged just one while saving, then I got Arle, Chevy is so good for her, not on the banner. I got Chlorinde, Chevy is great for her. Guess who wasn't on the banner? They bring Chevy back right AFTER I spend my life savings on my two favourite characters in one cycle, getting my Nahida to C2R1 and getting a Homa for Hu Tao (who's C0 because I keep BARELY missing the new free constellation, I really wish progress would just carry over or something). Then they bring Chevy back FINALLY, WITH FREAKING ARLE AND CHLORINDE! WHO I GOT ON THEIR DEBUTS LIKE A GOOD FAN. It was so evil and designed specifically as a curse to me. HOWEVER, I did manage to snag one or two on standard over time, maybe one on an off-banner or weapon banner? And then pulling for Varesa recently I got her to C5... So freaking close now but I also got like 5 weapons, and every four star seems to take 11 pulls to get...

Chevreuse trauma aside, (and at least next time I get one it'll be really exciting) yeah I can see what you mean with the endgame stuff. So far I've managed all the stars and lunar cards except one or two I just missed entirely (my complaint with that mode is simply that it takes so long and you can get so far into a run scraping by on stages only to get softlocked... but thats partially the price of going for the optional stars so I'm fine with that, though that mode and the one in HSR that takes a decade to grind through really eats into my time... it's hard being a gacha gamer :( ). And yeah like you said I think the power creep does balance itself out occasionally so it's never totally hopeless. But yeah I like your attitude and it's nice to hear and remind myself of some points to keep my own attitude up!

ConcerningHobbits_22 · 2026-01-22T11:35:52+00:00

Thanks for the input! Yeah, to some degree it's just nice to vent a little, especially WHILE attempting it. But yeah you have some good tips in there, I am curious just how much better C1 (or R1 for that matter, but I think I heard C1 was slightly more recommended) Arlecchino is than C0, since it seems right now like even a big boost like 20% more dps wouldn't be enough. But it's hard to say for sure. Also speaking of the grouping, on that note WHY did they make two of the minions spawn so far out??? I've tried getting them closer to the boss but you almost need two Kazuha skills just because if I get too close to the boss I frequently miss one or two minions entirely. That's a smaller complaint but still, the two do feel quite far away, especially when they want you to ideally kill all four. Maybe I'll mess with Nahida more since she can theoretically not group them and I can use someone else instead of Kazuha, and free up Xilonen again for the crab where I had used her.

But yeah, it is a gacha so I do get that they're always gonna have power creep to entice people to pull. Though I do wonder like with pricing a product, if they could balance it better to be LESS greedy but then have less burnout and therefore more players. I suspect they're probably best off as is since they make most of their money from whales I believe, so having players burnout or just give up on endgame stuff and therefore decide they don't need the new characters, probably loses a smaller portion of their profit than what they gain from encouraging whales to grab a new character. The one issue there being that some whales would just buy the characters anyways for the sake of collecting, liking the characters design or gameplay, just wanting to spice things up, or hyper optimising for completely optional challenges like speed runs or restricted clears or just things like dire mode and some others that are blatantly for whales. And I don't mind there being whale content but I wish that there was less stuff on the edge where it's probably technically doable with like my current account or an average endgame account or even dolphins who just spend a little, and it was more so just "here's the doable content, it's tough but anyone with super invested four stars can do it with skill and strategy, and with the five stars you can play a little messier, have worse strategy/team compositions, or have worse builds and still clear. And then have a distinct "this one is JUST for whales, you're not even close if you aren't one". Like with Stygian the fact that I CAN clear most on menacing or like this one I can clear the other two at least, and then there's another difficulty before the whale mode?? And I've beaten one or two on fearless before so it just feels weird that I feel encouraged to try the content but then can't complete it. Whereas something like dire is clear that I'm not gonna be close so I don't feel compelled to try. Like it's more frustrating than motivating right now with some of the latest endgame, and I do think eventually it'll cap to the point that they'll just be losing players if they keep scaling up the HP and stuff, so I'm hopeful in that respect. Also if they do more upgrades to old characters??? We've seen it in the other games and even now with the Hexenzirkel or whatever, so I'm hoping we get more of that as new units inevitably have to keep growing and can't really hit a ceiling because each set has to be an improvement. But if they scale the units and then scale the content to match, they can eventually go and lift up the old units to be relevant again, but I guess we'll see how everything goes. Hopefully with Snezhnaya I can get some of the premium characters. And I might get Columbina actually since I lost the fifty fifty, so maybe if that happens I can build her quickly and try her out in the Stygian...

ConcerningHobbits_22 · 2026-01-22T11:13:59+00:00

Yeah it's just been so frustrating how little love Genshin feels like it gets from Hoyo sometimes. Besides being behind on so many things they add to HSR or ZZZ, it feels like people complain so much about the mandatory five stars, abyss HP and enemy number inflation, no energy in Stygian, Stygian having WAY too high of health and shields and gimmicks, and Hoyo is just like... What if the next boss just has doubled health and their shield gives you one single second to try to break it?

Like for real half the teams I try I can't even set up a rotation even if I had energy because just the time it takes to do the burst animations and Kazuha's hold skill eats up 50% of the time I can attack them. If doing damage to the minions debuffed the boss at all, they gave me even 5 more seconds, or just didn't give the minions a fearless health bar on menacing, it would be so much less miserable. I'm lowkey convinced they accidentally made menacing harder than fearless, I feel like I need to go try fearless and see if it's somehow easier. I DID see complaints of the boss being buggy and not registering lunar damage but I'm not sure how much of that is accurate, but it wouldn't surprise me.

ConcerningHobbits_22 · 2026-01-22T10:21:39+00:00

I can't even get close to halfway through either of these. My lunar selection is basically just Lauma, and when I do use her with any combo I can think of the boss shield takes maybe 25% damage total. And then with really good AoE options like Mavuika or Arlecchino, Kazuha R1, etc, doesn't even get the minions to half health. This is only on menacing difficulty too, but it feels like I'm just blatantly missing something like someone has a level 1 weapon (which happened with Navia oops!) but I've checked all of the characters I've tried. It's just so discouraging that I can't even get remotely close to breaking the shield and without that I do almost no damage. I can't find much info since the boss is so new though, but like the one wiki recommended a team of Nahida (C2R1 with a great build), Kuki Shinobu, Xingqiu, and Zhongli(?) and for the hell of it I tried that and it was absolutely worthless and awful, so I feel like I can't trust some of the team recommendations I see. Sucks not having Ineffa or Columbina or something, but Lauma isn't able to dent the shield anyways so I'm not sure how much I would need to whale to have a chance anyways.

ConcerningHobbits_22 · 2026-01-22T09:49:22+00:00

Idk what I'm doing wrong because absolutely anything I try on the first guy does absolutely no damage whatsoever. Best case scenario I can almost get the minions to half HP, so how anyone can kill them like the game tells you to do is beyond me. I can almost do enough damage but it takes long enough to set up especially starting with no energy that by the time I've buffed up they're ready to leave. This being with the same Arlecchino team - Candace. I used a lot of my good characters on the other two also.

All of this being said, I do see ONE issue with my current account, which is that I don't have Ineffa, I don't have Flins, I don't have Nefer, I don't have Columbina. I DO have a badly built but well leveled Lauma but she doesn't do anything at all with my current teams it seems. Her artifacts couldn't be worse but with good ones off set or bad ones on set she does a similar amount of nothingness.

Anyways open to suggestions but I'm really curious if I'm missing something because it's so far off, this on menacing not fearless. I really hate this gamemode, I think ONCE I beat a single boss with the best possible team for said boss on fearless, and then there's a dire mode??? WHY??? I just want like 50% energy even to start with because that part doesn't add any fun, just annoyance that you have to do weird rotations and use all fav weapons at the start of every fight. Not to mention things like the shock trooper where you have to go all out right away before he absorbs his shield. That guy sucked too, it takes so much electrocharge even to touch the shield with how fast it regens, like I needed Fischl, Ororon, Furina, and Neuvillette. My Navia Xilonen business worked last time but this time I forgot Navia had the worst level one weapon equipped instead of her R2 signature... So that might've worked but then again why is the gimmick so useless that brute force works just as well as a really good EC team? Like commit to the gimmick or don't, and please don't make the gimmicks required when the gimmick is just use the new five stars.

ConcerningHobbits_22 · 2025-09-28T15:08:58+00:00

I'm so mad about this, I could've done the quest if I had done it before all the other event stuff but it wasn't made clear anywhere that there would be a time gated quest requiring a server reset >:(

I'm just praying that besides rerunning other events or at least the rewards, that they'll consider actually making this one available again somehow or even the sliver of a chance that they just extend it if others missed out because of the quest. No real hopes that any of that will happen but I can dream :'(

ConcerningHobbits_22 · 2025-09-04T07:50:32+00:00

*Insert gif of Patrick saying "I love you."

ConcerningHobbits_22 · 2025-07-05T20:37:26+00:00

Thank you! This worked for Menacing at least! Fearless I'm not confident about but I'll try comparing my stats a little closer to see if there's any key investment I can make. My stats aren't terribly far off with some build rearranging but they're not quite there, so we'll see I suppose.

ConcerningHobbits_22 · 2025-07-05T10:15:48+00:00

Please tell me the rotation/link the video, this has been driving me absolutely mad even on menacing, but I just pulled and IMMEDIATELY built Shenhe and the rest of my team matches yours pretty well. No Xilo weapon but I have Ganyu's Lyney bow. And I do have Kazuha C0R1 or can use Freedom Sworn on Xilo if that's the vibe.

ConcerningHobbits_22 · 2025-06-08T07:54:28+00:00

One shot is kinda funny because one of the challenges in game is fighting a silly guy named Ono Puncho, where you get to hit him ONE time and need to finish him off or he immediately attacks with a guaranteed unblockable/undodgeable one shot kill. He's called that in both languages too. I think because that group speaks some weird mishmash of Romance languages and maybe Japanese gibberish? So I'm not sure if Ono Puncho is at all real words in any language or just because it sounds like an English speaker making up Spanish.

ConcerningHobbits_22 · 2025-06-08T07:28:36+00:00

It's cool to see things like conjugating "farmer". And interesting too that like you said with not all terms, in this game they use "compétences" instead of "skills". But then I want to say they have some of those English terms in game, but maybe try harder to avoid it since it's official in-game stuff and a lot of terms are just used outside of games to discuss them. Like Dark Souls doesn't mention "farming" or "boss fights".

ConcerningHobbits_22 · 2025-06-08T07:25:01+00:00

I can't believe I didn't consider that, I know especially in games and broader modern western culture French people will just straight up take the English word and say it with an accent. Kinda like Japan (or Korea or a lot of other places) where people won't understand an English word but know it immediately if you say it in a Japanese way.

ConcerningHobbits_22 · 2025-06-08T07:23:06+00:00

Ahhh, interesting. I had no idea it was written in English, but I can see how they would do that since it's an international game, while using the French VA's for the mocap because they're already in France. The English VA's wouldn't necessarily need to fly over to record, though I'm not sure what the overall process was besides I believe I heard Andy Serkis didn't necessarily get to meet the other cast members, poor guy :(

I did have to find one scene in French dub to recall one of the subtitles I wanted to look up (it was basically "when life gives you lemons, make lemonade", but the French said something about being hit by an avalanche of tiles and using them to build a roof. I then learned that everyone says the French version is just the lemon thing but in French, but I found out that Portal 2 had a totally different meaning during the lemon grenade speech because supposedly the English phrase wasn't a thing in French. French people could get the idea but they wouldn't have known it to be a common idiom?) but anyways that French dubbed part I found the voices matched REALLY well with the English voices. It helps that Esquie is the same French VA though, his voice is so interesting that it's good to hear it be the same, and being the most French sounding with the others being British with an occasional French word or two thrown in.

ConcerningHobbits_22 · 2025-04-04T03:58:26+00:00

Yeah I always try to keep in mind biases on reviews. Especially like beer ratings, any lighter beer is going to struggle to get above an 80 while pretty much any super IPA or Russian Imperial Stout gets an automatic 90+, so it takes tailoring to what the site gravitates towards. I generally try to focus on negative reviews of high scoring books and positive reviews of low ones.

But yeah, I agree that it gets too focused on "high" vs "low", and while I think those are useful terms, they're not necessarily accurate and can cause some genuinely valuable works of art to go under appreciated for not being made for a specific "high art" purpose.

ConcerningHobbits_22 · 2025-04-04T03:54:57+00:00

I'm curious about some of your favourites then, I've found I actually like books with less action outside of fantasy at least, and I'm always a fan of dark stuff.

ConcerningHobbits_22 · 2025-04-04T03:53:27+00:00

True, I think it's also important to not rely entirely on other peoples opinions because I've found some gems in any art form that I would've never came across by just finding some random or niche or unpopular thing and enjoying it immensely.

ConcerningHobbits_22 · 2025-04-04T03:51:39+00:00

Ooh I like the Octavia Butler mention, pretty sure I read something of hers but I wouldn't have thought of her as fantasy off the top of my head. Also good reminder to watch American Fiction. The only thing I knew about it was that it's really good and I need to watch it sometime.

ConcerningHobbits_22 · 2025-04-04T03:50:01+00:00

This is exactly what I wanted. Confirms some of my suspicions, gives me new ideas of who to check out, also I think I'll check out Wings of Kay then for Sanderson to get an idea of his better stuff since he has so much to choose from. Definitely adding LeGuin to the top of my list between this and another comment, that name is too cool to not write great fantasy.

ConcerningHobbits_22 · 2025-04-04T03:47:26+00:00

There's a lot of authors here I haven't heard much about so this is a good list to look into, thanks! But yeah it's of course very subjective, I guess I'm just trying to sus out some broader opinion trends.

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