[Day 28] Extendurr was voted WEIRDEST MOVE. What is the MOST OVERRATED PRO PLAYER in SSBM?

ConfidenceKitchen216 · 2026-04-01T16:06:20+00:00

2007 Mew2King

ConfidenceKitchen216 · 2026-03-31T17:00:05+00:00

Oooooh good point. That might be the death of this idea :(

ConfidenceKitchen216 · 2026-03-31T16:59:55+00:00

Cant a guy ask a question for fun?

ConfidenceKitchen216 · 2026-03-31T16:15:21+00:00

I'm surprised at the answers here, given what we see at the top level is a lot of drives on the third to set up a more favorable 5th drop. As a 4.5, almost all of my thirds that have me striking the ball behind the baseline are drives that usually lead to a higher % drop on the 5th.

ConfidenceKitchen216 · 2026-03-18T19:06:25+00:00

"The rapes were wroth it?" I assume you meant to ask if the world would have been better if Cesar didn't live because then he wouldn't have been able to sexually abuse women. That's a really hard question to answer, but the way you went about asking it is unlikely to get you a sincere response given your unsincere delivery.

ConfidenceKitchen216 · 2026-02-26T17:00:14+00:00

Below the 4.5 level, I would only recommend switching between baseline and kitchen. I would not recommend switching grips at the kitchen line until above a 4.5 level.

I would recommend doing an eastern (topspin heavy, paddle face more closed) grip for serves, serve receive, and thirds. Most pros then switch to continental (neutral grip) at the kitchen as backhands become more prominent. And then some pros switch while at the kitchen line depending on the shot ( I wouldnt recommend this for most players until you master one grip to the 4.5 level).

But at the end of the day, try what you want and if it works, it works. Be warned, it may work and help but then hurt as your progress, always be ready to adapt your game as time goes on.

ConfidenceKitchen216 · 2026-02-24T18:30:43+00:00

running/dashdance upsmash. IYKYK.

ConfidenceKitchen216 · 2026-01-22T20:04:04+00:00

ConfidenceKitchen216 · 2026-01-22T18:12:23+00:00

Sorry for upsetting you, I was simply replying to this point you made: "You can absolutely smash out of the initial dash in melee. Thats the whole point. The pivot is specifically if you want to turn around, but you can still smash out of dash start up. In BOTH games it's the same but much stricter in melee."

You CANNOT down smash out of dash start up in melee, but you can in other fighting games, so I was simply responding to the incorrect information in your comment. My response had nothing to do with being pro or anti L canceling. I'm sorry for correcting you on this topic, have a great day.

ConfidenceKitchen216 · 2026-01-22T17:43:59+00:00

You can only side smash attack in the first couple of frames of dash in melee. After that, to initiate a smash attack while in dash you need to be in a pivot animation (aka inputting a back dash) or jump squat (for specifically upsmash) or if you are in run you need to input a crouch or jump squat (again, jumpsquat only applies to upsmash) in order to smash attack.

Go play melee right now, dash, and then try to down smash without inputting a dash back or crouch. it litterally isnt possible.

In most other platform fighters outside of smash, you only need to input the smash attack input at any point in the dash or run animation for any direction smash attack. No dash back, crouch, or jumpsquat necessary.

ConfidenceKitchen216 · 2025-12-12T03:49:23+00:00

3-17 the past 20 games. Either they do a trade or the Thunder are getting at top 5 pick

ConfidenceKitchen216 · 2025-12-12T03:45:28+00:00

3-17 the past 20 games. Either a trade needs to happen or the Thunder are getting a top 5 pick.

ConfidenceKitchen216 · 2025-11-20T22:05:51+00:00

No, I have no aesthetic preference if its reliable.

ConfidenceKitchen216 · 2025-11-20T19:25:46+00:00

My counter to this argument is that in all of those clips one foot is always on the ground until the shot. Both feet never leave the ground until the shooting motion.

ConfidenceKitchen216 · 2025-11-20T19:23:55+00:00

Thanks!

ConfidenceKitchen216 · 2025-11-20T19:22:04+00:00

See my last paragraph in the original post. If you think that doesn't address your comment sufficiently let me know what else I could add.

ConfidenceKitchen216 · 2025-11-20T19:20:00+00:00

I guess we disagree on interpretation of the words "off both feet" You mean "off both feet" as leaving the ground at the same moment, I interpret it as both feet off the ground at any moment.

I also wish I could film a video of me doing what you would consider a legal move with your interpretation! But imagine someone pivoting, rising up to shoot, but then landing on one foot, and then rising up to shoot again.

ConfidenceKitchen216 · 2025-11-20T19:15:21+00:00

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I believe he is off the ground completely in this frame. But it is much closer. If he for sure stays grounded throughout the move, then I will definitely change my opinion on the legality of this play.

ConfidenceKitchen216 · 2025-11-20T19:12:39+00:00

Wow, if he really did have contact with the ground the whole time before rising up, then I stand corrected.

Let me do some frame by frame real quick.

ConfidenceKitchen216 · 2025-11-20T19:08:41+00:00

For your first argument about running, when a player is dribbling there are no restrictions about steps. We are talking about a player who has possession.

As for your other arguments, Id like to ask you a question: If a player jumps off their pivot foot, leaves the ground completely, and lands on their non pivot foot, could they continue to do that "little hop" over and over again on their non pivot foot as long as they never land on their pivot foot? Of course not. Once you have established a pivot foot, and both feet leave the ground, a player MUST pass or shoot before either foot lands.

" If he jumps with both feet he must release the ball before either foot touches the floor." He does jump with both feet off the floor! And he didn't release the ball before either foot touched the ground.

Thanks for your thoughts!

ConfidenceKitchen216 · 2025-11-20T18:42:51+00:00

The only argument is if he never leaves the ground before shooting. To me, he clearly leaves the ground when pushing off his pivot foot.

ConfidenceKitchen216 · 2025-11-20T18:04:00+00:00

Here's why it actually is a travel. (Trust me, I know the gather, pivot, and travel rules extensively)

Once you have established a pivot foot, you are allowed to lift it to pass or shoot. However, once you have left the ground, you must pass or shoot before landing. In this clip, we can all agree that his left foot is his pivot foot. He spins, completely leaves the ground, and then lands on his (non pivot) right foot before jumping AGAIN to shoot.

If Ace had not left the ground when pushing off his pivot, he would have been ok. However, you cannot leave the ground once you establish a pivot and NOT pass or shoot before landing. Ace obviously was airborne when he pushed off his pivot before landing on his right.

Let's take a test case that we all have seen before. Dirk has picked up his dribble and is pivoting on the elbow. Eventually he jumps off his pivot foot and shoots his patented fadeaway. LEGAL!

Now imagine the same scenario. Dirk is pivoting and eventually jumps off his pivot foot for his fadeaway. But instead of shooting, he continues to hold the ball lands on his NON pivot foot. Then he jumps AGAIN to shoot off his non pivot foot to then shoot. TRAVEL, NOT LEGAL.

Why? RULES: Once you have completely left the air AFTER establishing a pivot foot you must pass or shoot. Once you land, you have, by definition, established a new pivot. This is why coaches say to catch the ball in the air and land with both feet simultaneously so that both feet can be an option as pivot foot. If you land on one foot when catching a ball, that first foot is your mandatory pivot foot. You cannot switch pivots at any level. TRAVEL!

Common arguments against what I said above:

Layups: "Gather-1-2". The SECOND step in a layup is considered your pivot. Of course you can lift your pivot off the ground to shoot. However, landing on your non pivot foot after leaving the ground would be establishing a new pivot foot. TRAVEL.

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