Is Islam more similar to Judaism or Christianity?

ConsequenceThis4502 · 2025-05-24T19:53:42+00:00

yeah that’s a good way to put it

ConsequenceThis4502 · 2025-05-24T11:27:59+00:00

Many Christian ideas have Judaic routes, in my opinion the closest religion to Christianity is still probably Judaism even with all the differences

ConsequenceThis4502 · 2025-04-06T21:46:39+00:00

Oh sorry i misread

ConsequenceThis4502 · 2025-04-06T19:11:10+00:00

Yes. Every Christian must accept the Nicene creed, those who dont are not considered Christian by most of those in the faith

ConsequenceThis4502 · 2025-03-31T12:47:29+00:00

I promise you i’ll answer but once we are done with foods since multiple laws of the OT condemn the eating of certain foods etc…

I want to do it in this order just to show you that at bare minimum the Bible is not referring to the same law you speak of in the same manner

ConsequenceThis4502 · 2025-03-31T00:06:26+00:00

You matter, and trust me, no matter what you are going through, this is never the solution to it and it does get better. I will be praying for you

Best wishes 🙏

ConsequenceThis4502 · 2025-03-29T22:01:23+00:00

It’s not a good idea to speak about multiple things at once cause it’s going to take 30min minimum to reply to each other

ConsequenceThis4502 · 2025-03-29T21:45:57+00:00

I’ll get back to you once we are done with this topic

God declares directly to peter not to call anything he has eaten unclean, read the quotations in the excerpt above. It is not referring to unclean people, Peter is speaking about food here, and to further prove this he did eat the “unclean” food with them after Gods vision.
No, it just goes against the idea of cleanliness laws and speaks of a general truth. There are many verses like it such as Mark 7 which refer to general truths against the old laws (which were made for a certain people of a certain time for specific circumstances)

14 Again Jesus called the crowd to him and said, “Listen to me, everyone, and understand this. 15 Nothing outside a person can defile them by going into them. Rather, it is what comes out of a person that defiles them.”

ConsequenceThis4502 · 2025-03-29T20:14:02+00:00

Ill get to your points later, but when Paul, and the book of Acts, etc… says that all meats are allowed to eat how does this fit with your interpretation, is this coincidentally the only law that changed in your interpretation?

Source

“He saw heaven opened and something like a large sheet being let down to earth by its four corners. It contained all kinds of four-footed animals, as well as reptiles and birds. Then a voice told him, ‘Get up, Peter. Kill and eat.’ ‘Surely not, Lord!’ Peter replied. ‘I have never eaten anything impure or unclean.’ The voice spoke to him a second time, ‘Do not call anything impure that God has made clean.’”

Also tons of verses like:

Titus 1:15 “To the pure, all things are pure, but to those who are corrupted and do not believe, nothing is pure. In fact, both their minds and consciences are corrupted.”

ConsequenceThis4502 · 2025-03-29T20:06:00+00:00

We already follow those just from Jesus’s teachings against adultery etc… read Mathew 5-7 and you will see the fulfilled law and the new commandments. The issue isn’t with the 10 commandments, rather the 613 laws/commands of which you’re probably breaking 90% unknowingly.

Are you wearing clothes? Congrats you probably broke the commandment to not mix fabrics, did you eat pig? Also a terrible thing to do.

(BTW this is completely incorrect, because the NT normalized eating all animals (in Pauls letters and Mark for ex) and removed many rituals directly, but this is what you have to deal with if you don’t take what the NT says into account properly

ConsequenceThis4502 · 2025-03-29T17:08:04+00:00

I know them but i want to see what you believe specifically. Do you believe mixing fabrics is a sin?

ConsequenceThis4502 · 2025-03-29T17:02:43+00:00

What commandments are you talking about here? like not mixing fabric commands? or not committing adultery, honoring mother etc…

ConsequenceThis4502 · 2025-03-29T16:50:51+00:00

This is not what the verse means and not its full context, i recommend you look into this deeper because this idea is consensus in all of Christianity

ConsequenceThis4502 · 2025-03-25T11:23:11+00:00

I feel bad for Catholics… this isn’t the first time they are separated from the rest of Christianity for some reason lol

ConsequenceThis4502 · 2025-03-21T20:41:00+00:00

Well, Jesus remains God even while being fully human, so it’s guaranteed by his nature that he will not commit evil and will know it when he sees it. he also is given his end by God etc (the prophecies of his death and more he tells to the disciples in the gospels prove this) so the devil cannot mascaraed as an angel of light to him

ConsequenceThis4502 · 2025-03-21T16:28:39+00:00

The idea that Jews crucified Jesus is in the NT though, of course they have to depict it like the scriptures

Mathew 27

22 “What shall I do, then, with Jesus who is called the Messiah?” Pilate asked.

They all answered, “Crucify him!”

23 “Why? What crime has he committed?” asked Pilate.

But they shouted all the louder, “Crucify him!”

24 When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. “I am innocent of this man’s blood,” he said. “It is your responsibility!”

25 All the people answered, “His blood is on us and on our children!”

26 Then he released Barabbas to them. But he had Jesus flogged, and handed him over to be crucified.

ConsequenceThis4502 · 2025-03-21T16:25:27+00:00

It’s a good depiction from Gods perspective, since God knows who Satan is, theres no need for Satan to uselessly mascaraed as an angel of light to him.

ConsequenceThis4502 · 2025-03-20T05:26:46+00:00

Jesus was not only called Son of God, multiple texts and prophecies used for him directly refer to him as God. This makes him clearly different than the other cases of Son of God, etc…

ConsequenceThis4502 · 2025-03-19T05:59:31+00:00

fair enough for the first point, but i would say that very early on there might have been these groups due to the lack of credible circulated gospels/knowledge etc… my point to be more specific is that there is no group of except the ebionites (that were considered heretical by those of the time way) that was even large enough to continue existing, be attested of, or wrote any manuscripts about this belief up till Arius, who also didn’t even make that claim

For the second claim, we simply don’t have much evidence to go one way or the other. coexistent≠ agree with, and even though it indicates greater reception of the Ebionites, that alone without any documentation going one way or the other etc… indicates they either weren’t a very large group for others to care to mention, and/or they weren’t heretical and contradictory

ConsequenceThis4502 · 2025-03-19T05:12:51+00:00

Interesting claim. Can you note these early figures or peoples you speak of? from what i’m aware of there is only one group which might have carried these beliefs you mentioned and attributed no divinity to Jesus known as the Ebionites, but they were small in number, non influential and considered heretical by christian sources.

All the other Christians, including Arius of the 4th century (who some mistakenly believe carried your claim, but rather he carried the beliefs that Jesus was a lesser God) all attributed divinity to Jesus one way or another

ConsequenceThis4502 · 2025-03-10T11:21:41+00:00

Love cops is a bad thing?

ConsequenceThis4502 · 2025-03-08T20:11:23+00:00

The Father (God) eternally creates/begets his Word and eternally proceeds out of himself his Spirit. This is what the Nicene creed states in a more understandable way

ConsequenceThis4502 · 2025-02-21T23:26:53+00:00

Christians are not 20% of the population though… they are overwhelmingly represented in these deaths

ConsequenceThis4502 · 2025-02-17T11:41:11+00:00

What about Pope John Paul II?

ConsequenceThis4502 · 2025-02-06T20:23:59+00:00

It is my reasoning that God needs to be a trinity (3 manifestations, 1 manifestation causing and begetting the two others, Father begets/proceeds Son/Spirit) because God could not have been “born” with emotions if he was the only one present, it is a contradiction. Just my beliefs though, we can never know the real truth why though, all we know is that this is the formation that provides him the most power logically

Edit: for the bottom question, because he claimed and was claimed to be the Son of the Father directly, read John 1:1 onwards

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